Server specs for 5.0

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My turn to say "Thanks, guys". I'll be opening the box just as soon as I
press 'send'.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:52 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

Like they used to say about the Olds 4-4-2 and GTO... nice machine.

-Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


I used Adaptect's AIC 7899 Ultra 160. It's a 4 channel card, I've got 3
sets of 18 gig drives with a 30 gig for a boot drive. The card and the
drives were very painless to set up. The card gives me hardware redundancy
and a selection of raid schemes to choose from. The card was pricey
($1,000+ ) but it controls ALL of the drives and I still have a channel to
expand with. It also leaves the onboard scsi channels open to handle tape
backups. It sits in a Tyan MB w/a gig of ram and Two 1.2 gig AMD
processors. Memory buss is 233mhz.

Shirley H. Graver
(End User)
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates Inc.




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We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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NT loves RAM, Vantage Loves RAM, I'm not sure if you can every have to much
RAM.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0



We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0
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Sorry, I should have specified. We have 19 office users and 5 data
collection users.

Our database (d1 and b1 files) are a total of 355 MB.

Thanks for the feedback,

Sarah



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I would double up on the RAM and I would do something about the drive space.
Both have come down considerably in price. I am sure Vantage will run on a
machine equipped as specced below, but I am afraid such a system makes it
"run" and not "fly". Take your number of users in account and the size of
your DB. I am afraid that when you go by Epicor specs you don't allow
yourself hardly any room for future growth....


Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:33
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0



We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


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At Perspectives it was highly recommended to have at least two disks - one
for OS and one (or more) for Vantage. You might want to look into adding
disks. A couple 9GB disks mirrored (Raid 1) would be good even if you have
to do software mirroring 9if SCSI controller doesn't handle it). You would
also then have room for test databases, attached documents, etc... Trying
to have OS and Vantage on one 2GB disk might be asking for a headache down
the road.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0



We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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I appreciate the feedback very much. I realized I mistyped. It is actually
a 4 GB SCSI (2 disks) right now, but we were thinking of partitioning it all
into one disk.





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Oooowww.... Good one, Todd. Our first Vantage server was a little bit
hampered by this. So I added 5 more physical SCSI HD's. Does wonders....
On the new server I have dual processors. Made it a little bit faster, but
in hindsight wasn't worth the added expense.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:12
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


At Perspectives it was highly recommended to have at least two disks - one
for OS and one (or more) for Vantage. You might want to look into adding
disks. A couple 9GB disks mirrored (Raid 1) would be good even if you have
to do software mirroring 9if SCSI controller doesn't handle it). You would
also then have room for test databases, attached documents, etc... Trying
to have OS and Vantage on one 2GB disk might be asking for a headache down
the road.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0



We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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> A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
>connections.

I meant "network controller", not "video card"

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


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Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it gets
slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.


Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline




-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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13
These guys are right. We have a Dell (server) Poweredge 2300 P2, 400 MHz
512MB Ram, C-drive = 2G and Vantage-drive = 6G. 11 users and 2 data
collection. It's not dragging, but reports run slow and people have to wait
now and then. We are out of disk and pushing the horsepower as much as I
care to.

I just installed Vantage 5.0 on a test machine - Celeron 850Mhz workstation.
We'll see how that holds up for the evaluation and testing, but it won't see
the usage the main server does. I'm planning on having sufficient amount of
RAM and Disk on a P3-700 server with teamed NIC's when we finally go live.

I believe in putting in hardware that will handle the load. This cuts down
on other problems later, and is cheaper in the long-run.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:30 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


> A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
>connections.

I meant "network controller", not "video card"

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
14
>Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
>slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it
gets
>slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.

Luckily, we're only running vantage 3 and not 5, or it would probably be
slower. The main point I was trying to get across is that in my particular
case, a SERVER with Vantage (25 users), and exchange, runs reports, queries,
and logs into vantage, 3-5 times faster than a WORKSTATION running vantage
only -- Even with the workstation having the same processor and ram as the
server.

(these stats are assuming the vantage server /test server is logged into
from the outside, by a 98 client.)

The reason the server performs better is because it is more optimised for
network requests, while the workstation is designed to better serve the user
that is sitting in front of it.


Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:44 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it gets
slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.


Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline




-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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15
Just one more item on the exchange server issue:

How often do you have to reboot your exchange server? It's not often here,
but does happen more than rebooting the Vantage server. Do you want to open
your Vantage database to all the possibilities the come along with having
exchange on the same server?
Just a thought. I'd better stop, I'll have some paranoid plot loose soon.

Lydia
lcoffman@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:01 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

>Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
>slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it
gets
>slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.

Luckily, we're only running vantage 3 and not 5, or it would probably be
slower. The main point I was trying to get across is that in my particular
case, a SERVER with Vantage (25 users), and exchange, runs reports, queries,
and logs into vantage, 3-5 times faster than a WORKSTATION running vantage
only -- Even with the workstation having the same processor and ram as the
server.

(these stats are assuming the vantage server /test server is logged into
from the outside, by a 98 client.)

The reason the server performs better is because it is more optimised for
network requests, while the workstation is designed to better serve the user
that is sitting in front of it.


Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:44 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it gets
slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.


Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline




-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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16
Haven't had to reboot in the last month that I can remember.

We had a consultant come in and set it up. It's pretty rock solid, though
in the morning when everyone's logging into vantage and everyone's checking
their e-mail, it does get temporarily bogged down.

We plan on eventually putting exchange on another server before we go live
with 5.

Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Just one more item on the exchange server issue:

How often do you have to reboot your exchange server? It's not often here,
but does happen more than rebooting the Vantage server. Do you want to open
your Vantage database to all the possibilities the come along with having
exchange on the same server?
Just a thought. I'd better stop, I'll have some paranoid plot loose soon.

Lydia
lcoffman@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:01 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

>Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
>slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it
gets
>slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.

Luckily, we're only running vantage 3 and not 5, or it would probably be
slower. The main point I was trying to get across is that in my particular
case, a SERVER with Vantage (25 users), and exchange, runs reports, queries,
and logs into vantage, 3-5 times faster than a WORKSTATION running vantage
only -- Even with the workstation having the same processor and ram as the
server.

(these stats are assuming the vantage server /test server is logged into
from the outside, by a 98 client.)

The reason the server performs better is because it is more optimised for
network requests, while the workstation is designed to better serve the user
that is sitting in front of it.


Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:44 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Running anything on a machine with Exchange on it is asking for it to be
slow. Exchange will eat every piece of ram it can find. The reason it gets
slow is that it has to swap out to disk all the time.


Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline




-----Original Message-----
From: Thad Jacobs [mailto:tjacobs@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:11 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


We have a Compaq Proliant SERVER with a pII 450 with 512 megs of ram for
vantage, with 20 users, and it gets slow at times, but it works. We also
have exchange server running on it.

I have a Compaq AP400 Professional WORKSTATION, pII-450 with 512 megs of
ram, for a test vantage server. It has a SCSI hard drive. And runs
solidworks with no problem.

The workstation takes about 3 to 5 times longer to run reports, open
vantage, etc. than the server and that's with ONE USER.

I would STRONGLY recommend against using a workstation for a live vantage
server. A workstation video card is not meant to handle 20 database
connections. A workstation's hard disk controller is designed for 1 user,
not 20.

I might consider using a workstation as a crystal enterprise web server,
with 5 users or less.

Part of the necessary cost of running a database is the hardware it runs on.


It is my recommendation that you stick with vantage on the file server until
you are ready to purchase a dedicated SERVER.

Thaddeus Jacobs
Kinematic Automation, Inc.
mailto:tjacobs@...


-----Original Message-----
From: John Sage [mailto:jsage@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah,

It's adequacy really depends upon how many users you're going to
throw at it. Also, how big are your db files?

If you have less than twenty users, and maybe one or two RB,
ODBC or Results users it will probably work OK. OTOH, our
Vantage installation is 2.5GB, including our 950MB database.

have fun,
john


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarah.vareschi@...
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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17
Sarah:

When I got here 4 years ago we had Vantage running on one server with
everything else in the world also running on it - all on one partition!!

The first thing I did when we went from 2.7 to 3.0 was add a 4gb SCSI drive
and put Vantage only on that drive. Still had the same server, but there
was a remarkable improvement in access times, etc.

Then while I was getting 4.0 ready it was running on a 450 PIII, 256 RAM,
14gb IDE hd (now, don't attack me for using IDE. Sometimes you gotta take
what you can get) running NTWS. When we went live on 4.0 I made it an NT
Server, added another 256 RAM, gave Vantage it's very own 10gb partition
(overkill for us, but I sleep good at night) and Vantage is the only thing
on that box. It's been basically set it and forget it ever since. I have
16 users and 8 dc seats. My d1 and b1 are around 375mb.

I added a couple 2gb SCSI drives and partitioned them as a single volume to
get started on 5.0 and they've been ok too. I do have a new Dell PowerEdge
sitting in a box chomping at the bit to get out. That's gonna be the 5.0
server sometime within the next couple weeks.

Anyways, back to your original concern. What you have is adequate if
Vantage is the only thing you're gonna run on it and to add to Patrick's
comment, for Vantage think RAM and hd space more so than processor speed.

HTH

Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com <http://www.chipsco.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

I appreciate the feedback very much. I realized I mistyped. It is actually
a 4 GB SCSI (2 disks) right now, but we were thinking of partitioning it all
into one disk.





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What are the specs for your new Poweredge server?

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Williams [mailto:tlw@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah:

When I got here 4 years ago we had Vantage running on one server with
everything else in the world also running on it - all on one partition!!

The first thing I did when we went from 2.7 to 3.0 was add a 4gb SCSI drive
and put Vantage only on that drive. Still had the same server, but there
was a remarkable improvement in access times, etc.

Then while I was getting 4.0 ready it was running on a 450 PIII, 256 RAM,
14gb IDE hd (now, don't attack me for using IDE. Sometimes you gotta take
what you can get) running NTWS. When we went live on 4.0 I made it an NT
Server, added another 256 RAM, gave Vantage it's very own 10gb partition
(overkill for us, but I sleep good at night) and Vantage is the only thing
on that box. It's been basically set it and forget it ever since. I have
16 users and 8 dc seats. My d1 and b1 are around 375mb.

I added a couple 2gb SCSI drives and partitioned them as a single volume to
get started on 5.0 and they've been ok too. I do have a new Dell PowerEdge
sitting in a box chomping at the bit to get out. That's gonna be the 5.0
server sometime within the next couple weeks.

Anyways, back to your original concern. What you have is adequate if
Vantage is the only thing you're gonna run on it and to add to Patrick's
comment, for Vantage think RAM and hd space more so than processor speed.

HTH

Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com <http://www.chipsco.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

I appreciate the feedback very much. I realized I mistyped. It is actually
a 4 GB SCSI (2 disks) right now, but we were thinking of partitioning it all
into one disk.





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Paul, When you add physical hard drives like that, do you then spread the Vantage Database out across those drive in multiple extents to spread out the disk access?

I'd love to know the details and where you saw the most improvement.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Siebers
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Oooowww.... Good one, Todd. Our first Vantage server was a little bit
hampered by this. So I added 5 more physical SCSI HD's. Does wonders....
On the new server I have dual processors. Made it a little bit faster, but
in hindsight wasn't worth the added expense.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:12
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


At Perspectives it was highly recommended to have at least two disks - one
for OS and one (or more) for Vantage. You might want to look into adding
disks. A couple 9GB disks mirrored (Raid 1) would be good even if you have
to do software mirroring 9if SCSI controller doesn't handle it). You would
also then have room for test databases, attached documents, etc... Trying
to have OS and Vantage on one 2GB disk might be asking for a headache down
the road.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0



We are planning to go to 5.0 this weekend and are finally considering taking
Vantage off of our file server and putting it on a dedicated server. We
have a PC here which we could use as the server but I'm not sure if it is
good enough to act as the Vantage server. I checked the Epicor site and it
meets the specs, but I wanted some 'real-world' advice. The specs of the PC
are:

P2 400 Xeon, 512 Meg RAM, 2 Gig SCSI.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks,

Sarah



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Dell PowerEdge Server 1400SC configured as follows:

Base Unit:
PowerEdge 1400SC,1GHz/133 256K Cache,P3 (220-2333)
Processor:
Information,No Second Processor (311-1193)
Memory:
512MB RAM,2DIMMs,32X72,168, for Dell PowerEdge 1400 (311-1108)
Keyboard:
QuietKey Keyboard,104 Key, Gray,6 Pin,Factory Install (310-4100)
Monitor:
19in(17.9in VIS)Monitor,Gray P991,for Dell PowerEdge (320-0964)
Hard Drive:
Hard Drive,18G,10K,68P, for Dell PowerEdge 1400 (340-1964)
Floppy Disk Drive:
Floppy Disk Drive,1.44MB,F3, NEC,P1400 (340-1919)
Operating System:
Windows 2000 Server,5 Client Access Licenses,English,4GB Partition
(461-5993)
Mouse:
Logitec System Mouse,Gray, Servers (310-3776)
NIC:
Card,Network,3C980C,Version 2.0,for Dell PowerEdge 1300/2300/2400,Factory
Install (430-5000)
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive:
20/48X Black,Compact Disk Drive,IDE,for Dell PowerEdge 1300/8450,Factory
Install (313-2600)
Documentation Diskette:
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Additional Storage Products:
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Option 1:
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Service:
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Initial Year (950-8170)
Service:
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Extended (950-8172)
Installation:
On-Site Installation Declined (900-9997)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:25 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

What are the specs for your new Poweredge server?

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Williams [mailto:tlw@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0


Sarah:

When I got here 4 years ago we had Vantage running on one server with
everything else in the world also running on it - all on one partition!!

The first thing I did when we went from 2.7 to 3.0 was add a 4gb SCSI drive
and put Vantage only on that drive. Still had the same server, but there
was a remarkable improvement in access times, etc.

Then while I was getting 4.0 ready it was running on a 450 PIII, 256 RAM,
14gb IDE hd (now, don't attack me for using IDE. Sometimes you gotta take
what you can get) running NTWS. When we went live on 4.0 I made it an NT
Server, added another 256 RAM, gave Vantage it's very own 10gb partition
(overkill for us, but I sleep good at night) and Vantage is the only thing
on that box. It's been basically set it and forget it ever since. I have
16 users and 8 dc seats. My d1 and b1 are around 375mb.

I added a couple 2gb SCSI drives and partitioned them as a single volume to
get started on 5.0 and they've been ok too. I do have a new Dell PowerEdge
sitting in a box chomping at the bit to get out. That's gonna be the 5.0
server sometime within the next couple weeks.

Anyways, back to your original concern. What you have is adequate if
Vantage is the only thing you're gonna run on it and to add to Patrick's
comment, for Vantage think RAM and hd space more so than processor speed.

HTH

Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com < http://www.chipsco.com/>

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From: sarah.vareschi@... [mailto:sarah.vareschi@...]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Server specs for 5.0

I appreciate the feedback very much. I realized I mistyped. It is actually
a 4 GB SCSI (2 disks) right now, but we were thinking of partitioning it all
into one disk.





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