[OT] Web Usage Logging

I have not had need to use the Spector Soft program in quite awhile. It worked really well but had the side effectof triggering all the usual anti-spyware software we run (Symantec and Webroot back then and TredMicro now). Because basically it IS spyware. It is supposed to have some features to slip under the radar of inhouse tools but the user I was monitoring did get messages from time to time and I just said to ignore them. So it is not quite as "stealth" as I would have liked. There are at least a couple newer versions sicne then (as evidenced by frequent upgrade emails I get) so perhaps they have evolved with the anti-spyware products. It does what it claims to be able to do and was not overly expensive.

We never used it in conjunction with Citrix so I don't know about that. As far as processing overhead I did not notice much but it did fill up a fair sized logging file with the screens and sites visited.

BTW...the user being monitored was vindicated...not that he ever knew there was a question. We have not had to use it since but do occasionally dump out the web traffic "packets by user" report from our SonicWall firewall....just to see who the big users are. Lately this has been skewed by increased use of streaming radio stations on weekends (when they are allowed).

-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bbvantage
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd C.,

I too am asked to do some sniffing. I found this message, and was
wondering how the Spector Soft selection went for you. I am pretty
sure from other postings I have seen from you that you use Citrix.
Does this specific product work ok with Citrix? Are there a lot of
processing overhead for this tracker?

Thanks,

Bruce

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Lee Ingalls" <eli3@...> wrote:
>
> offer that is... Is it still Monday?
>
> Todd,
> Let me over my 2cents worth... as the local "internet nazi" I use
Red Line
> Software's - Internet Access Monitor
> http://www.internetaccessmonitor.com/eng/products/iam/
>
> I point the application (IAM) at my Squid Proxy log, configured for
4
> different reporting groups and it compiles all internet activity
for the
> department(s) and emails the logs to the department supervisors
> automatically... I only get involved for discoveries and evidence
> documentation.
>
> Also, a good Acceptable Use Policy clearly spelling out what is and
is NOT
> acceptable internet use helps eliminate the grey areas.
>
> Happy Hunting! Lee
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of
> Todd Caughey
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:46 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging
>
>
> Thanks to all for the suggestions. I think we will go with
Rebecca's
> suggestion for Spector Soft. At $99 it is affordable and does
everything
> they were looking for (expecially total duration on sites). Only
drawback
> is it is installed on the Client. But I think we can use it as
a "tool kit"
> utility and install/ininstall when needed for a particular case. A
network
> wide logging system would be better so we could monitor overall
usage trends
> for everyone but for now this will do.
>
> BTW - we already have a companywide (and signed by each employee)
> notification that usage monitoring may be done.
>
> -Todd C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]On
Behalf Of
> Butch Menge
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:38 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging
>
>
> We use Squid running on Linux (free) for our proxy server. A
reporting
> tool called Sarg gives information on usage. We also use Group
Policy
> to disable the history button on some users computers (User
> Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
> Explorer) and totally disable the tab for others (User
> Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
> Explorer/Internet Control Panel). If you don't have Group Policy
> capabilities, you can disable the tabs by [carefully] doing a
registry
> change:
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet
> Explorer\Control Panel]
> "GeneralTab"="1"
>
> Butch
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf
> Of Andrew Reed
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging
>
>
> The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
> History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in
an
> encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
> interprets this file and prints it out.
>
> Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
> application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not
only
> logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that
users
> are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and
claims
> ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
> that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block
page
> access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it
could
> also close it.
>
> Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows
that can
> help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-
code
> for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
> www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point.
Otherwise,
> there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
> handle what your talking about as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Reed
>
> Office Automation Specialist
> Crestview Aerospace Corporation
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf
> Of Todd Caughey
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging
>
>
> I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily
to
> block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
> amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it
does
> not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB
transferred by
> user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
> possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
> working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
> files and cookies. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Spector Soft captures every keystroke, every email, every chat, every web
site visited, and even does screen shots. We've been using it for years.
You can install it in stealth mode so the user doesn't know, or you can have
users ENTER past a warning every time they log in.

Good luck!
Rebecca



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging

I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging

I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in an
encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
interprets this file and prints it out.

Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not only
logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that users
are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and claims
ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block page
access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it could
also close it.

Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows that can
help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-code
for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point. Otherwise,
there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
handle what your talking about as well.





Andrew Reed

Office Automation Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:59 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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We use Squid running on Linux (free) for our proxy server. A reporting
tool called Sarg gives information on usage. We also use Group Policy
to disable the history button on some users computers (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer) and totally disable the tab for others (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer/Internet Control Panel). If you don't have Group Policy
capabilities, you can disable the tabs by [carefully] doing a registry
change:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Control Panel]
"GeneralTab"="1"

Butch

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Reed
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in an
encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
interprets this file and prints it out.

Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not only
logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that users
are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and claims
ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block page
access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it could
also close it.

Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows that can
help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-code
for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point. Otherwise,
there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
handle what your talking about as well.





Andrew Reed

Office Automation Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Thanks to all for the suggestions. I think we will go with Rebecca's suggestion for Spector Soft. At $99 it is affordable and does everything they were looking for (expecially total duration on sites). Only drawback is it is installed on the Client. But I think we can use it as a "tool kit" utility and install/ininstall when needed for a particular case. A network wide logging system would be better so we could monitor overall usage trends for everyone but for now this will do.

BTW - we already have a companywide (and signed by each employee) notification that usage monitoring may be done.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Butch Menge
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


We use Squid running on Linux (free) for our proxy server. A reporting
tool called Sarg gives information on usage. We also use Group Policy
to disable the history button on some users computers (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer) and totally disable the tab for others (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer/Internet Control Panel). If you don't have Group Policy
capabilities, you can disable the tabs by [carefully] doing a registry
change:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Control Panel]
"GeneralTab"="1"

Butch

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Reed
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in an
encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
interprets this file and prints it out.

Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not only
logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that users
are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and claims
ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block page
access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it could
also close it.

Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows that can
help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-code
for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point. Otherwise,
there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
handle what your talking about as well.





Andrew Reed

Office Automation Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Shirley,

Can you recommend a couple?

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:18 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Have you looked at Index.dat. That keeps a running tally of an
individual
machines web links. There are plenty of free viewers out there. If you
have trouble finding one let me know I have several.

Shirley

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:00 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging

I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of
time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as
much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are
trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+m
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ting+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw> management
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Todd,
Let me over my 2cents worth... as the local "internet nazi" I use Red Line
Software's - Internet Access Monitor
http://www.internetaccessmonitor.com/eng/products/iam/

I point the application (IAM) at my Squid Proxy log, configured for 4
different reporting groups and it compiles all internet activity for the
department(s) and emails the logs to the department supervisors
automatically... I only get involved for discoveries and evidence
documentation.

Also, a good Acceptable Use Policy clearly spelling out what is and is NOT
acceptable internet use helps eliminate the grey areas.

Happy Hunting! Lee

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Thanks to all for the suggestions. I think we will go with Rebecca's
suggestion for Spector Soft. At $99 it is affordable and does everything
they were looking for (expecially total duration on sites). Only drawback
is it is installed on the Client. But I think we can use it as a "tool kit"
utility and install/ininstall when needed for a particular case. A network
wide logging system would be better so we could monitor overall usage trends
for everyone but for now this will do.

BTW - we already have a companywide (and signed by each employee)
notification that usage monitoring may be done.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Butch Menge
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


We use Squid running on Linux (free) for our proxy server. A reporting
tool called Sarg gives information on usage. We also use Group Policy
to disable the history button on some users computers (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer) and totally disable the tab for others (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer/Internet Control Panel). If you don't have Group Policy
capabilities, you can disable the tabs by [carefully] doing a registry
change:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Control Panel]
"GeneralTab"="1"

Butch

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Reed
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in an
encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
interprets this file and prints it out.

Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not only
logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that users
are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and claims
ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block page
access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it could
also close it.

Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows that can
help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-code
for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point. Otherwise,
there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
handle what your talking about as well.





Andrew Reed

Office Automation Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Index.dat viewers

http://www.stevengould.org/software/indexdatspy/download.html
http://www.softwarepatch.com/software/indexdat.html

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4853

www.majorgeeks.com <http://www.majorgeeks.com/> has a really good
selection of a whole range of useful tools. Very safe site too.

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Hofert
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging

Shirley,

Can you recommend a couple?

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Graver
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:18 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Have you looked at Index.dat. That keeps a running tally of an
individual
machines web links. There are plenty of free viewers out there. If you
have trouble finding one let me know I have several.

Shirley

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
rfc822 Compliance issue From: added by system POTENTIAL SPAM
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging

I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of
time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as
much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are
trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Database
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ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softw
are&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database
+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA>
Membership database software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man>
&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=N5BGdur84p-jyuOomcQdbQ>
Database mortgage software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manuf>
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oftware&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Data
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Pda database software
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re&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+
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+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw>
Database marketing software
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manu>
&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manu
facturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+
software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Dat
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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Manufacturing
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+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketing+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software
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Pda
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software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w4=Pd
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ftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=u3KQrTRPAQfsWIT39aHDkg> database software
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turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwar
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ting+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw> management software
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uring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software
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offer that is... Is it still Monday?

Todd,
Let me over my 2cents worth... as the local "internet nazi" I use Red Line
Software's - Internet Access Monitor
http://www.internetaccessmonitor.com/eng/products/iam/

I point the application (IAM) at my Squid Proxy log, configured for 4
different reporting groups and it compiles all internet activity for the
department(s) and emails the logs to the department supervisors
automatically... I only get involved for discoveries and evidence
documentation.

Also, a good Acceptable Use Policy clearly spelling out what is and is NOT
acceptable internet use helps eliminate the grey areas.

Happy Hunting! Lee

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Thanks to all for the suggestions. I think we will go with Rebecca's
suggestion for Spector Soft. At $99 it is affordable and does everything
they were looking for (expecially total duration on sites). Only drawback
is it is installed on the Client. But I think we can use it as a "tool kit"
utility and install/ininstall when needed for a particular case. A network
wide logging system would be better so we could monitor overall usage trends
for everyone but for now this will do.

BTW - we already have a companywide (and signed by each employee)
notification that usage monitoring may be done.

-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Butch Menge
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:38 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


We use Squid running on Linux (free) for our proxy server. A reporting
tool called Sarg gives information on usage. We also use Group Policy
to disable the history button on some users computers (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer) and totally disable the tab for others (User
Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet
Explorer/Internet Control Panel). If you don't have Group Policy
capabilities, you can disable the tabs by [carefully] doing a registry
change:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Control Panel]
"GeneralTab"="1"

Butch

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Reed
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


The complete IE history is not wiped clean when a user clicks "Clear
History". In fact, a good majority of the history is still held in an
encrypted/locked file called index.dat. I have a VB program which
interprets this file and prints it out.

Also, I have a piece of sample code that would become the owner
application of all instances of IE on a computer, thus enabling not only
logging, but complete interpretation of entire html sessions that users
are in. This sample application "hooks" into windows itself and claims
ownership of each new instance of IE. The beauty behind this app is
that we had intended to develop it into a utility that would block page
access by detected content. Since the app had control of IE, it could
also close it.

Im sure I have access to other file/system utilities in windows that can
help log things like that. Some coding sites have alot of source-code
for DIY'ers if your up to the task of developing your own stuff,
www.planet-source-code.com is an excellent starting point. Otherwise,
there are $nooping apps out there (as Rebecca suggested) that will
handle what your talking about as well.





Andrew Reed

Office Automation Specialist
Crestview Aerospace Corporation
________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly
working. Especially by users savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp
files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.






Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's. You
can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a hidden
share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE" program
and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market figure out how
to find it and disable it. At which time you can download the current
version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary. PERFECT
for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are products
that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same hub as your
internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a hub that then
links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the line of all traffic
and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA (ugh) is a pretty decent
product although you can get lost in the details. Not only does it record
whats going on with the traffic it also actively blocks people from going to
some websites while trying to block intrusions from the outside that get
through your firewall. Complicated product with iffy tech support.
Surfcontrol also plays the same game. I've used an early version of
Surfcontrol and a later version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The
later version of eTrust tracked websites and email. Don't know about
Surfcontrol. The early version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface
but did not track email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites you're
employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email? IM? Music?
etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300 employees I
just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop. The political
issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the opportunity
I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that it
isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
+w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
da+database+ng+s
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Membership
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
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fact
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
What are your issues with SurfControl?

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
+w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
da+database+ng+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software
Membership
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
ufac
turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+sof
turing+twar
e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+m
arke
ting+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=N5BGdur84p-jyuOomcQdbQ> database software
Database
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actu
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ring+are&
w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+mar
keti
ng+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=8rvcSQnCqJhTCZu-0Si39A> mortgage software

Pda
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pda+database+software&w1=Manufactur
ing+
software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&w
4=Pd
a+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketin
a+database+g+so
ftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=u3KQrTRPAQfsWIT39aHDkg> database software Database
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turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+sof
turing+twar
e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+m
arke
ting+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw> management software
Database
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manu
fact
uring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+soft
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Thanks Todd.

I agree 100% - I really don't want to be the Internet cop either but that's the way it will probably end up. Really sucks when the target is a person you like and if the evidence is as suspected he would probably be fired (or made so uncomfortable he sees the writing ont he wall and leaves).

I bought one license for SpectorSoft. I would definitely be interested in details of the viewer part (off list) as access to the target PC will be an issue. Bad enough I have to explain rebooting his PC (ie. lie)after installing (it serves a printer and is up all the time).

Funny you mention the spyware part....we just switched from CA-PestPatrol (very buggy) to Webroot's Spy Sweeper. I will have to exlcude SpectorSoft or remove Spy Sweeper on that client.

-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's. You
can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a hidden
share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE" program
and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market figure out how
to find it and disable it. At which time you can download the current
version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary. PERFECT
for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are products
that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same hub as your
internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a hub that then
links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the line of all traffic
and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA (ugh) is a pretty decent
product although you can get lost in the details. Not only does it record
whats going on with the traffic it also actively blocks people from going to
some websites while trying to block intrusions from the outside that get
through your firewall. Complicated product with iffy tech support.
Surfcontrol also plays the same game. I've used an early version of
Surfcontrol and a later version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The
later version of eTrust tracked websites and email. Don't know about
Surfcontrol. The early version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface
but did not track email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites you're
employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email? IM? Music?
etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300 employees I
just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop. The political
issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the opportunity
I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that it
isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
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Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to block
or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the amount of time
connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does not record as much
detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by user. We are trying
to pin down some late night high volume usage possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Not reliable, its very quirky

I do not trust how the categories are set.

The rules do not seem to work.

We have had it for over 2 years and I'm fed up with it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Hofert
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


What are your issues with SurfControl?

Todd

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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ing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwa
re&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+
marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=u3KQrTRPAQfsWIT39aHDkg> Database
management software
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ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw>
Database marketing software
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facturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+
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If you find one better, I'd like to know about it if you don't mind. We
currently use SurfControl also.





Sue



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging



Not reliable, its very quirky

I do not trust how the categories are set.

The rules do not seem to work.

We have had it for over 2 years and I'm fed up with it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Hofert
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


What are your issues with SurfControl?

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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ring
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+w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
da+database+ng+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software Membership
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Database
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fact
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links








Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




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Manufacturing software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softw
are&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database
+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA>
Membership database software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=N5BGdur84p-jyuOomcQdbQ>
Database mortgage software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manuf
acturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+s
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base+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=8rvcSQnCqJhTCZu-0Si39A>
Pda database software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pda+database+software&w1=Manufactur
ing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwa
re&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+
marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=u3KQrTRPAQfsWIT39aHDkg>
Database
management software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+management+software&w1=Man
ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw>
Database marketing software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manu
facturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+
software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Dat
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links








Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




SPONSORED LINKS

Manufacturing software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softw
are&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database
+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA>

Membership database software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=N5BGdur84p-jyuOomcQdbQ>

Database mortgage software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+mortgage+software&w1=Manuf
acturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+s
oftware&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Data
base+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=8rvcSQnCqJhTCZu-0Si39A>

Pda database software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Pda+database+software&w1=Manufactur
ing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softwa
re&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+
marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=u3KQrTRPAQfsWIT39aHDkg>

Database management software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+management+software&w1=Man
ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
tabase+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=R3CF3ODPY4gwjDZjykQYvw>

Database marketing software
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Database+marketing+software&w1=Manu
facturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+
software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Dat
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Are you having problems with it also?

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Susan Iverson
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


If you find one better, I'd like to know about it if you don't mind. We
currently use SurfControl also.





Sue



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging



Not reliable, its very quirky

I do not trust how the categories are set.

The rules do not seem to work.

We have had it for over 2 years and I'm fed up with it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Hofert
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


What are your issues with SurfControl?

Todd

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

_____

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links




SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring
+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+software&
+w4=P
da+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+marketi
da+database+ng+s
oftware&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software Membership
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Membership+database+software&w1=Man
ufac
turing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+sof
turing+twar
e&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database+m
arke
ting+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=N5BGdur84p-jyuOomcQdbQ> database software
Database
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actu
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I have it too, and sounds like you have same issues I have.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:16 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Not reliable, its very quirky

I do not trust how the categories are set.

The rules do not seem to work.

We have had it for over 2 years and I'm fed up with it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Hofert
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:50 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


What are your issues with SurfControl?

Todd

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Zeigafuse
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:25 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I would not recommend Surfcontrol. I am actually looking to replace it.

Innovative Office Products, Inc.
Frank Zeigafuse
General Manager
610-559-6369
fzeigafuse@...


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Anderson
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:22 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


Todd,

Spectorsoft is great for -a- PC. Even for a home network of 2-5 PC's.
You can install the viewer on a networked PC to view the stash via a
hidden share. If you're interested I'll explain the details.

However, you should know that Spectorsoft is a high end "SPYWARE"
program and every 6-10 months the Anti-Spyware programs on the market
figure out how to find it and disable it. At which time you can
download the current version and leapfrog the competition.

Having said that ... if you want to track EVERY keystroke, IM, email,
webpage etc on a given PC Spectorsoft is insidious. Almost scary.
PERFECT for keeping track of your kids or your spouse. Seriously!

On a business network ... it's so so because of the anti-spyware issue.

Consider something like SurfControl or Etrust instead. These are
products that you would install on a PC that is connected to the same
hub as your internet feed. IE. run a line from your main switch to a
hub that then links to your main firewall. These products -sniff- the
line of all traffic and save a log of who went where. Etrust from CA
(ugh) is a pretty decent product although you can get lost in the
details. Not only does it record whats going on with the traffic it
also actively blocks people from going to some websites while trying to
block intrusions from the outside that get through your firewall.
Complicated product with iffy tech support. Surfcontrol also plays the
same game. I've used an early version of Surfcontrol and a later
version of Etrust. Both had their merits. The later version of eTrust
tracked websites and email. Don't know about Surfcontrol. The early
version of Surfcontrol I used had a nicer interface but did not track
email.

You need to decide what the company want's to know? What web sites
you're employees are going to? How much time they are wasting? Email?
IM? Music? etc?

After 3-4 years of tracking this stuff at a company with 120-300
employees I just got to the point where I hated being the Internet cop.
The political issues just sucked.

Recommendation - down load a trial version of Surfcontrol ... put it on
a PC
... and then instruct your HR manager on how to use it. Let them be
the
nasty person. IT managers take enough crap as is. Given the
opportunity I'd setup the software and delegate the paddle to some one
else.

Todd Anderson

P.S. If you --really-- want to know how I feel about this issue please
feel
free to contact me off list ... :)

P.P.S. If you would like to hear about the Sales Manager who swore that
it isn't porn if they're pretty ... That's another offlist conversation.

P.P.P.S If this sounded a bit cynical. My apologies - it's been a long
day.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Web Usage Logging


I have been asked to find a way to log web usage. Not necessarily to
block or control....just log web sites visited and if possible the
amount of time connected. I've used our SonicWall before but it does
not record as much detail as desired....just the total MB transferred by
user. We are trying to pin down some late night high volume usage
possibly related to game
playing (MUDs, etc...) by people supposedly working. Especially by
users
savvy enough to wipe IE history, temp files and cookies. Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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