OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

system · April 11, 2003, 4:10pm

urgood
Original Message:
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From: lindafurio@... lindafurio@...
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:07:48 -0400
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

He's not due for a check this week.

Original Message:
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From: Todd Anderson tanderson@...
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:36:00 -0500
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

Been there - Done that ....

I'm told that leasing makes "Economic" sense because the cost is treated
differently from an accounting point of view then is depreciation.

Can any of our resident accountants explain the math in English? How do you
compute the savings of leasing vs buying?

Thanks,

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:57 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

I wish I could lease, to me that would make the most sense as well. However,
the company does not like that idea. Again, grrrrrr.

Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

-----Original Message-----
From: pjw@... [mailto:pjw@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:21 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

Makes Leasing all PC's, Laptops, Servers more attractive. Every 2 or 3 years
give it all back and get new. Resolves a lot of upgrading, incompatibility
and hazardous disposal issues. Might as well do network switchs the same.

Patrick Winter

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:54 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

Jessee,

Not a solution ... Just an observation ...

MS has always understood inter-related upgraded cycles. If you rewrite
MS-Office to take advantage of new features in Win-2000 or Win-XP how do you
maintain compatibility with Win-95/98 ???

Ok, that's the nice side of the conversation.

The other side is that if you do upgrade an operating system how do you make
sure that ALL related software needs to be upgraded? So if MS can get you
to upgrade to Win-2000 on the desktop which at some point Forces/Encourages
you to upgrade to Win-2000-Server which requires an upgrade to Exchange-2000
etc etc etc you can hear the cash register going ding ding ding up in
Redmond.

Bottom line ... I have become VERY hesitant to upgrade ANY MS products in
our network out of concern that it will start a complete upgrade cycle
across my entire network.

Best bet if you want no hassles ? Use the same version of MS products
across the board and understand that any upgrade may involve new pcs and
servers to boot.

Frustrating isn't it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Microsoft Mail (Exchange) in Windows XP

Here is the deal, I'm sick and tired of dealing with Microsoft and their
"incompatibility" problems with newer Operating Systems with a program that
is still commonly used in their NT 4.0 Server system which has not been
"shelved" quite yet.

I am tired of trying to make Windows Messaging work on an XP box by itself
without using Outlook (which costs a license).

1) Does ANYONE have any idea what other FREEWARE program is out there on the
net that will INSTALL AND USE the old "Microsoft Mail" protocol AND YET WORK
ON WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL?

2) What are alternatives to the Microsoft Mail system for internal company
messaging (NOT external)? (Meaning I can't see giving an email address like
"datacollection@...", I would rather have a separate address
book that only our internal servers use with an email address of "Data
Collection")

Any information on this would be much appreciated.

Thank You,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 8:35am

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know, I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ... and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help. I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

system · December 9, 2002, 8:43am

Jessee,

Do you have a DNS server set up? Even though you are running a NT4.0
server, with ISA and XP you really need a DNS server running.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know, I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ... and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help. I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 8:51am

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · December 9, 2002, 10:09am

Sorry Jessee,

I thought I was in the ISA newsgroup. If you don't have ISA server than
ignore this.

Sorry,

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 10:20am

Not being an XP expert I've had some experience with a similar problem. XP
needs DNS configured correctly. Especially with that 2000 server on the
LAN. Can the 2000 server ping the UPS site? XP might be seeing the 2000
server and asking it to resolve it's DNS and failing. There are specific
configurations for XP and 2000 servers. I can try and find the KB articles
I used from Microsoft if you would like.

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know, I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ... and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help. I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 10:59am

For software, with the exception of web based stuff, you need to specify
a default gateway in network settings. All web based software will
route web requests through the proxy settings, all other network traffic
needs to be told where the next router is. We used to have a similar
problem while trying to collect external email. A pc couldn't get to an
external IP address, this was resolved by setting the pc's default
gateway to the proxy server. If the proxy server got an IP address it
didn't know it would put it to the ISP's DNS server to be resolved.

Martin Horton
PRD Holdings Limited

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: 09 December 2002 13:52
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 12:17pm

Jasper, Dave:

I do have ISA Server installed, and I have tried disabling the client
software, no luck however. I do not have a DNS server set up and will begin
looking into this possibility. The problem there is I've never set one up
before, so I hope its easy; time to break out the documentation and read I
guess.

Also packet filtering has been both enabled and disabled, still no luck.

Although the funny thing is one XP Machine works....

Why is this, and what is different. I checked EVERY page inside the "Local
Area Connection" properties and everything is the same; why doesn't other
machines on my network (that aren't XP) need a DNS Server.

Curious, but I will look into setting up a DNS Server.

Thanks both for the contribution,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 12:19pm

Jim:

If you have the article handy, send it along. I've done a bunch of
searching on their site as well and still haven't found anything. But I
think I am going to start looking into the possibility of setting up a DNS
Server.

I'll try anything right about now.

Thank You,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Carnes [mailto:jcarnes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Not being an XP expert I've had some experience with a similar problem. XP
needs DNS configured correctly. Especially with that 2000 server on the
LAN. Can the 2000 server ping the UPS site? XP might be seeing the 2000
server and asking it to resolve it's DNS and failing. There are specific
configurations for XP and 2000 servers. I can try and find the KB articles
I used from Microsoft if you would like.

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know, I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ... and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help. I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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system · December 9, 2002, 12:22pm

Yeah, I tried the Gateway issue once, and it didn't seem to resolve our
problem. I'll try it again though, maybe I just didn't do it correctly.

Thank you for this piece of information,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Horton [mailto:martinh@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:00 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

For software, with the exception of web based stuff, you need to specify
a default gateway in network settings. All web based software will
route web requests through the proxy settings, all other network traffic
needs to be told where the next router is. We used to have a similar
problem while trying to collect external email. A pc couldn't get to an
external IP address, this was resolved by setting the pc's default
gateway to the proxy server. If the proxy server got an IP address it
didn't know it would put it to the ISP's DNS server to be resolved.

Martin Horton
PRD Holdings Limited

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: 09 December 2002 13:52
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/> >
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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system · December 9, 2002, 1:00pm

This may have already been mentioned but under
Local Area Connection Properties and the Advanced tab try taking the
checkmark out of the Internet Connection Firewall option.

Jim Moore
GD-OTS

system · December 9, 2002, 1:03pm

Jessee,

I'm not sure if I understand you configuration. Do you have the
Firewall Client software on the workstations? If you don't then you
should install it. Worldship requires certain protocols that web proxy
or secureNAT does not provide.

Check the XP workstation that does work and look into the control panel
for the Firewall Client icon or the WSP proxy client icon.(Depending on
the ISA version). Make sure that it client software points to the
firewall server. If you have the firewall client installed, you might
have to setup Worldship to NOT use a proxy. I'm not quite sure on that
issue.

I also had the problem of one workstation being able to work and not
others. The firewall client solved all my problems!

Also, can you ping any other websites like www.msn.com
<http://www.msn.com> , etc?

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jasper, Dave:

I do have ISA Server installed, and I have tried disabling the client
software, no luck however. I do not have a DNS server set up and will
begin
looking into this possibility. The problem there is I've never set one
up
before, so I hope its easy; time to break out the documentation and read
I
guess.

Also packet filtering has been both enabled and disabled, still no luck.

Although the funny thing is one XP Machine works....

Why is this, and what is different. I checked EVERY page inside the
"Local
Area Connection" properties and everything is the same; why doesn't
other
machines on my network (that aren't XP) need a DNS Server.

Curious, but I will look into setting up a DNS Server.

Thanks both for the contribution,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

system · December 9, 2002, 1:15pm

Jessee,

I don't think you need the firewall client installed. I don't have it
installed on any of my 35+ machines. You will have to have a gateway
defined for certain protocols like FTP to work. You can call me direct and
I can help you set up DNS. It really is pretty easy once you get the hang
of it.

Dave

David S. Cole
Reeder & Kline Machine Company, Inc.
340 1st Avenue SW
Carmel, IN 46032
317-846-6591 Voice
317-846-7129 Fax
Dave@... <mailto:Dave@...> Email
-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

Jessee,

I'm not sure if I understand you configuration. Do you have the
Firewall Client software on the workstations? If you don't then you
should install it. Worldship requires certain protocols that web proxy
or secureNAT does not provide.

Check the XP workstation that does work and look into the control panel
for the Firewall Client icon or the WSP proxy client icon.(Depending on
the ISA version). Make sure that it client software points to the
firewall server. If you have the firewall client installed, you might
have to setup Worldship to NOT use a proxy. I'm not quite sure on that
issue.

I also had the problem of one workstation being able to work and not
others. The firewall client solved all my problems!

Also, can you ping any other websites like www.msn.com
<http://www.msn.com <http://www.msn.com> > , etc?

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jasper, Dave:

I do have ISA Server installed, and I have tried disabling the client
software, no luck however. I do not have a DNS server set up and will
begin
looking into this possibility. The problem there is I've never set one
up
before, so I hope its easy; time to break out the documentation and read
I
guess.

Also packet filtering has been both enabled and disabled, still no luck.

Although the funny thing is one XP Machine works....

Why is this, and what is different. I checked EVERY page inside the
"Local
Area Connection" properties and everything is the same; why doesn't
other
machines on my network (that aren't XP) need a DNS Server.

Curious, but I will look into setting up a DNS Server.

Thanks both for the contribution,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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system · December 9, 2002, 1:49pm

I know a lot of these are Windows 2000 related but I got them from a message
thread regarding Win XP and the Internet.

Do you use DHCP? This was a major snag on the network I was working with
and these articles helped.

Q300202
Q291382
Q237675

If you like I can fax you the printout of the thread (about 8 pages). It
may help you recognize the symptoms and nuances these people tried. While a
lot of it refers to login times for XP clients it also dealt with the
Internet connection.

Let me know

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

system · December 9, 2002, 1:59pm

Jim:

Yeah it has been mentioned and looked at, but thanks for the suggestion. It
was one of the first things checked; grrrrrr I hate firewalls.

Thank You,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Moore, Jim (Anniston) [mailto:jmoore@...-ots.com]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:00 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

This may have already been mentioned but under
Local Area Connection Properties and the Advanced tab try taking the
checkmark out of the Internet Connection Firewall option.

Jim Moore
GD-OTS

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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system · December 9, 2002, 3:16pm

Jasper,

Yes, all of our clients have the Proxy Client installed on them and yes you
are right about Worldship, you do not need to tell it to use a proxy server.

However, with the proxy clients installed this issue is still happening.

Yes, I have tried pinging other sites besides ups.com and the same results.

I am now reading up on how to install a DNS Server. I am going to try this
and see what happens. Hopefully, my headache for the day will then go away,
but I think this is all just the beginning of my troubles ... UGH.

Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:04 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

I'm not sure if I understand you configuration. Do you have the
Firewall Client software on the workstations? If you don't then you
should install it. Worldship requires certain protocols that web proxy
or secureNAT does not provide.

Check the XP workstation that does work and look into the control panel
for the Firewall Client icon or the WSP proxy client icon.(Depending on
the ISA version). Make sure that it client software points to the
firewall server. If you have the firewall client installed, you might
have to setup Worldship to NOT use a proxy. I'm not quite sure on that
issue.

I also had the problem of one workstation being able to work and not
others. The firewall client solved all my problems!

Also, can you ping any other websites like www.msn.com
<http://www.msn.com> , etc?

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jasper, Dave:

I do have ISA Server installed, and I have tried disabling the client
software, no luck however. I do not have a DNS server set up and will
begin
looking into this possibility. The problem there is I've never set one
up
before, so I hope its easy; time to break out the documentation and read
I
guess.

Also packet filtering has been both enabled and disabled, still no luck.

Although the funny thing is one XP Machine works....

Why is this, and what is different. I checked EVERY page inside the
"Local
Area Connection" properties and everything is the same; why doesn't
other
machines on my network (that aren't XP) need a DNS Server.

Curious, but I will look into setting up a DNS Server.

Thanks both for the contribution,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasper Recto [mailto:jrecto@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

Jessee,

Do you have the firewall client on the machines that need to access UPS?
I had the same problem with UPS Worldship because it needs several
different ports open to communicate. Only the firewall client can
manage different protocols besides http, https, gopher and ftp.

Not sure if that would resolve the pinging issue. Try pinging the IP
address. If you can ping the IP address then it's a DNS issue.

Make sure you enable packet filter to be able to ping from clients.

Jasper

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 8:35 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm not.

I have a weird problem here with Windows Networking and would like some
help
from any who can provide it.

The situation: We are running a Windows NT 4.0 Domain and have a Windows
2000 Server running ISA Server 2000. All have the latest service packs
on
them.

ALL of our machines that ARE NOT Windows XP will return the following
message when you do the ping: ping www.ups.com

---------------------------
Pinging WWW.UPS.COM [153.2.224.50] with 32 bytes of data:

Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.
Destination host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 153.2.224.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
----------------------------

However, all machines that run Windows XP ([EXCEPT FOR ONE] All machines
are
setup the exact same - esp. via IPConfig /all) return the following when
pinging: www.ups.com

---------------------------
Ping request could not find host www.ups.com. Please check the name and
try
again.
----------------------------

The question. How do I make my XP machines AT LEAST get the first listed
result, so it gets an IP Address back?
What is different between Windows XP and the rest of the Windows and
Windows
NT Family?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and just to let everyone know,
I've
now stumped Gateway Corporation, Dell Corporation, and UPS Worldship ...
and
of course ... myself. Microsoft Support Website was also of little help.
I'm
thinking next after this, of calling actual Microsoft.

The main effort behind all of this is installing UPS Worldship on an XP
machine with LAN Internet Access and I believe this problem is in direct
relation with why UPS Worldship can't connect. More information can be
provided upon request.

Thanks all for any help or ideas suggested,
Jessee Holmes
Stremel Manufacturing Company

Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

ADVERTISEMENT

<
http://rd.yahoo.com/M=240188.2647639.4038785.2225243/D=egroupweb/S=1705
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

system · December 9, 2002, 3:17pm

Jim:

Thanks for the article ID's! Those should help me out. Hopefully soon, I can
get this working.

The help is greatly appreciated,
Jessee Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Carnes [mailto:jcarnes@...]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:50 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Are you a Know It All for XP? I guess I'm
not.

I know a lot of these are Windows 2000 related but I got them from a message
thread regarding Win XP and the Internet.

Do you use DHCP? This was a major snag on the network I was working with
and these articles helped.

Q300202
Q291382
Q237675

If you like I can fax you the printout of the thread (about 8 pages). It
may help you recognize the symptoms and nuances these people tried. While a
lot of it refers to login times for XP clients it also dealt with the
Internet connection.

Let me know

Jim Carnes
Information Systems
Kenlee Precision Corporation
1700 Morrell Park Ave
Baltimore, MD 21230
410-525-3800 x132

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

system · April 4, 2003, 11:05am

Anyone out there using ODBC to WRITE data INTO vantage from third party
program's (i.e. Excel, Access, Visual Basic)?

If so, please contact me off list, I'd like to ask a couple simple
questions.

Jessee Holmes
jholmes@...
Stremel Manufacturing Company

system · April 4, 2003, 11:55am

Could you keep this on list? I'm interested in knowing if anyone does this
and how.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage and ODBC

Anyone out there using ODBC to WRITE data INTO vantage from third party
program's (i.e. Excel, Access, Visual Basic)?

If so, please contact me off list, I'd like to ask a couple simple
questions.

Jessee Holmes
jholmes@...
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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system · April 4, 2003, 12:04pm

Somebody out there I'm sure is doing this. However, you are risking
severe corruption of your database. I think a lot of us Vantageites
would like to, but if you do this, any damage you cause will be a
billable fix by Epicor, if fixable at all. Verrrrry risky stuff.

Shirley

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Zywiec [mailto:ed.zywiec@...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 11:46 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage and ODBC

Could you keep this on list? I'm interested in knowing if anyone does
this
and how.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jessee Holmes (Stremel) [mailto:jholmes@...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage and ODBC

Anyone out there using ODBC to WRITE data INTO vantage from third party
program's (i.e. Excel, Access, Visual Basic)?

If so, please contact me off list, I'd like to ask a couple simple
questions.

Jessee Holmes
jholmes@...
Stremel Manufacturing Company

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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/> >
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
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