Virtualization of 9.xx

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Our entire production environment (not only Epicor) is running VMware on several Dell servers and an EMC SAN
Server configuration -
low end hosts: Dual socket, quad core 2.6 Ghz
high end Dual socket Intel 5680 six way 3.3 Ghz
all in a single DRS so we get complete fail-over if any of the hosts fail.
SAN has a mixture of SAS and SATA configured in RAID 5 and 10 all FC 4Gb
Epicor dB size is about 14Gb
All servers at HQ with a total of 6 remote locations all connected with single T1 to HQ and using WAN accelerators –
MES users access via terminal server so we can lockdown their wks and all end users us the full `smart client', local, remote and VPN users

We started the Vantage project several years ago on VMWare and I could not imagine supporting our company without it today. Before each upgrade I clone my boxes, make all upgrades and testing on the cloned boxes and when go-live comes around all I need to do is rename the boxes and move the live dB to it. Currently I'm running 803 and going live Monday on 905.600C we also have been looking into changes with 601A, so I have 2 servers for 803, 2 for my 803 testing/pilot, 3 for 905.600C and 3 for 905.601A.
I can roll out new releases in hours with no need to build a new server or restore any part of OS or of the applications.
It is hard to estimate performance loss due to ESX overhead but the benefits outweigh performance hit by a big margin.
Hope this helps a little, if there are any other tips I can help with let me know

Motty


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> I think we'd all be curious given your nice middle-of-the-road size
> what kind of horsepower you've got going on, disk spindles, SAN setup
> (if any), etc. Details are nice to hear how others are moving into the
> Brave New World of virtualization.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of mseal
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:42 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: virtualization of 9.xx
>
>
> We had started using VMWare with 8.03 and this weekend moving to 905.
> have several VM servers, 1st for apps, 2nd for SQL and 3rd for Web
> services such as Search, Mobile Access and SSRS
> concurrent users run around 40-65 + 20 MES
>
> if you need more information, please reply
>
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Is anyone out there running 9 virtualized? If so, how many users do you
have, and, are you happy with the response or performance? Thanks in
advance!



Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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We are looking at this option, I was waiting with anticipation for replys to Rob's questions... We have 10-12 users, on E9 (9.04.506c)

I too am curious if anybody is using virtualization...
thanks
Andy

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Bucek" <rbucek@...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone out there running 9 virtualized? If so, how many users do you
> have, and, are you happy with the response or performance? Thanks in
> advance!
>
>
>
> Rob Bucek
>
> Production Control Manager
>
> PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
>
> Mobile: (715)896-0590
>
> FAX: (715)284-4084
>
> <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
> (Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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We had started using VMWare with 8.03 and this weekend moving to 905.
have several VM servers, 1st for apps, 2nd for SQL and 3rd for Web services such as Search, Mobile Access and SSRS
concurrent users run around 40-65 + 20 MES

if you need more information, please reply


Motty


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "howco22" <agortman@...> wrote:
>
> We are looking at this option, I was waiting with anticipation for replys to Rob's questions... We have 10-12 users, on E9 (9.04.506c)
>
> I too am curious if anybody is using virtualization...
> thanks
> Andy
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Bucek" <rbucek@> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone out there running 9 virtualized? If so, how many users do you
> > have, and, are you happy with the response or performance? Thanks in
> > advance!
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob Bucek
> >
> > Production Control Manager
> >
> > PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
> >
> > Mobile: (715)896-0590
> >
> > FAX: (715)284-4084
> >
> > <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> >
> > (Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
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I personally am not, but I have worked with several different customers who
use it.

There is a variation between their use of Virtualization in 3 different
styles of setup I have worked with, everything works well from a usability
standpoint, however speed and performance aren't a major issue depending on
how things get setup.

One was on a Hyper V server in a hosted environment in California and it's
accessed by their offices in New Jersey and Germany, they are only partially
live with the system with about 6 users, there have been some speed
problems, but those are being worked on by the hosting company since the
issue seems to be connection based latency issue.

Another installation ran into some speed problems based on how they were
utilizing their SAN for hosting all the VMs for the VMware environment. They
had their SAN setup in RAID 10 using all the disks into one massive Disk,
and then allotting each VM its own space. This did not work out so well for
them in regards to performance. With this instance, we ended up doing a
massive re-configuration where we dedicated 8 disks just to the Epicor VM
and leaving all the other VMs on the remaining discs.

While this did improve performance for them, I have seen better performance
when the VM is put on its own set of discs, and then the VM has SAN discs
within it that aren't part of the VM VDs, but mapped directly to the SAN
itself. Several discs for the program, and several discs for the DB itself.

As it is with Vantage/Epicor in general, it's all about the resources and
how you have them allocated which will end up determining your end
performance.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rob Bucek
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:08 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] virtualization of 9.xx

Is anyone out there running 9 virtualized? If so, how many users do you
have, and, are you happy with the response or performance? Thanks in
advance!



Rob Bucek

Production Control Manager

PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311

Mobile: (715)896-0590

FAX: (715)284-4084

<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

(Click the logo to view our site) <http://www.dsmfg.com/>







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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I think we'd all be curious given your nice middle-of-the-road size
what kind of horsepower you've got going on, disk spindles, SAN setup
(if any), etc. Details are nice to hear how others are moving into the
Brave New World of virtualization.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of mseal
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:42 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: virtualization of 9.xx


We had started using VMWare with 8.03 and this weekend moving to 905.
have several VM servers, 1st for apps, 2nd for SQL and 3rd for Web
services such as Search, Mobile Access and SSRS
concurrent users run around 40-65 + 20 MES

if you need more information, please reply