Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times

Every time someone gives input on ver. 8.0 I feel like a hero for
telling our people to hold off on this upgrade. I can just hear the
moans and groans on a daily basis lamenting repeatedly, "why did YOU buy
this piece of crap". They are an impatient lot. Let me know when it's
safe to go into the water.



Meanwhile, we'll continue working away with ver. 6.1.



Sue



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of marc_vantage
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:18 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times




Vantage version:
8.00.806 on Microsoft SQL-Server (see specific note below about
database)

Server:
Compaq DL 580 G3
Quad Xeon 3.33 Hyper-threaded (so view as 8 processors in Task Manager)
Memory: 8Go Hard Drives: 15000 RPM

Workstations:
Dell 3.2Ghz Memory: 1Go

Here we go...

Login Time: 0:05.
Order Entry: 1st time 0:24, 2nd 0:03s.
Job Entry: 1st time 0:31, 2nd 0:05s.
Job Tracker: 1st time 1:50 (yes, 110 seconds...), 2nd time 0:04.
Part Tracker: 1st time 0:43, 2nd time 0:04.

Some explanations:
We made the same tests on 2 different workstations and I took the
shortest time but the average gap between the 2 workstations was only
about 1 second for each test. It would be interesting to indicate
which database is used. In our case it's Microsoft SQL-Server. It's
important because, as you were probably aware, if you have chosen MS
SQL-Server then Vantage ERP will only use SQL-Server in order to
store or to retrieve data using ODBC link between Progress and MS
SQL-Server. That's why you will not find any Store Procedures or Views
in MS SQl-Server database related to Vantage ERP. All the business
code running on Progress Database even though you have chosen MS
Sql-server. It works but ... maybe this is the explanation of our
results...

Few words about memory cache (Tools/Options/General then "Memory
cache"): remember that you cannot load all forms in memory cache. Few
weeks ago I made some tests and the average (with 1Go workstation)
were about 5 forms in cache memory depending of the form because some
of them use "only" 30Mo of memory and some others a little bit more
than 100Mo. Obviously it depends of how many applications currently
running on your system (Outlook, Excel, Internet Explorer...).

Marc VALLEE
Sr Software Developper

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, dave.miller2@... wrote:
>
> Login Time- 0:07
>
> Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.
>
> Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.
>
> Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.
>
> Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.
>
> Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
> Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.
>
> As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial
time Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or
third time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.
>
>
> Dave Miller
> Prince Industries, Inc.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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Login Time- 0:07

Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.

Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.

Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.

Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.

Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.

As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial time Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or third time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.


Dave Miller
Prince Industries, Inc.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Remember you can turn on the form cache for each form to make the 2nd time 0. Of course the form cache uses memory and doesn't help floating users... just users that stay in all day with enough memory for their caches.

----- Original Message -----
From: <dave.miller2@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times


Login Time- 0:07

Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.

Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.

Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.

Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.

Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.

As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial time Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or third time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.


Dave Miller
Prince Industries, Inc.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Where do you turn on the form cache ?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Robisch
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times

Remember you can turn on the form cache for each form to make the 2nd
time 0. Of course the form cache uses memory and doesn't help floating
users... just users that stay in all day with enough memory for their
caches.

----- Original Message -----
From: <dave.miller2@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times


Login Time- 0:07

Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.

Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.

Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.

Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.

Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.

As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial time
Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or third
time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.


Dave Miller
Prince Industries, Inc.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
Load your form, such as Purchase Order Entry. Press Tools\Options.
Under General Tab, check Memory Cache.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cliff Drumeller" <cliff@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times


Where do you turn on the form cache ?

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris Robisch
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:14 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times

Remember you can turn on the form cache for each form to make the 2nd
time 0. Of course the form cache uses memory and doesn't help floating
users... just users that stay in all day with enough memory for their
caches.

----- Original Message -----
From: <dave.miller2@...>
To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:33 AM
Subject: [Vantage] Vantage 8.00.806 Load Times


Login Time- 0:07

Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.

Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.

Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.

Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.

Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.

As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial time
Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or third
time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.


Dave Miller
Prince Industries, Inc.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
In any module, Tools/Options/General/ Click on "Memory Cache"
Do this selectively, obviously, since it sucks up your local memory.

On Apr 11 2006, Cliff Drumeller wrote:

>Where do you turn on the form cache ?
Vantage version:
8.00.806 on Microsoft SQL-Server (see specific note below about database)

Server:
Compaq DL 580 G3
Quad Xeon 3.33 Hyper-threaded (so view as 8 processors in Task Manager)
Memory: 8Go Hard Drives: 15000 RPM

Workstations:
Dell 3.2Ghz Memory: 1Go

Here we go...

Login Time: 0:05.
Order Entry: 1st time 0:24, 2nd 0:03s.
Job Entry: 1st time 0:31, 2nd 0:05s.
Job Tracker: 1st time 1:50 (yes, 110 seconds...), 2nd time 0:04.
Part Tracker: 1st time 0:43, 2nd time 0:04.

Some explanations:
We made the same tests on 2 different workstations and I took the
shortest time but the average gap between the 2 workstations was only
about 1 second for each test. It would be interesting to indicate
which database is used. In our case it's Microsoft SQL-Server. It's
important because, as you were probably aware, if you have chosen MS
SQL-Server then Vantage ERP will only use SQL-Server in order to
store or to retrieve data using ODBC link between Progress and MS
SQL-Server. That's why you will not find any Store Procedures or Views
in MS SQl-Server database related to Vantage ERP. All the business
code running on Progress Database even though you have chosen MS
Sql-server. It works but ... maybe this is the explanation of our
results...

Few words about memory cache (Tools/Options/General then "Memory
cache"): remember that you cannot load all forms in memory cache. Few
weeks ago I made some tests and the average (with 1Go workstation)
were about 5 forms in cache memory depending of the form because some
of them use "only" 30Mo of memory and some others a little bit more
than 100Mo. Obviously it depends of how many applications currently
running on your system (Outlook, Excel, Internet Explorer...).

Marc VALLEE
Sr Software Developper

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, dave.miller2@... wrote:
>
> Login Time- 0:07
>
> Order Entry: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:03.
>
> Job Entry: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:05.
>
> Job Tracker: 1st time 0:09, 2nd time 0:06.
>
> Part Tracker: 1st time 0:08, 2nd time 0:05.
>
> Server Dell Power Edge 2800 Dual Xeon 3GHz processors & 6GB RAM.
> Workstation is Optiplex GX620 3MHz Pentium IV with 1GB RAM.
>
> As most of you know by now from experience or reading, the initial
time Vantage is loaded it takes longer than the it would the second or
third time...this is the reason I have posted a 1st and 2nd time.
>
>
> Dave Miller
> Prince Industries, Inc.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>