Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05

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If you are doing a migration instead of an upgrade, then there is nothing
for Epicor to convert.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Eva Cummings
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:11 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re:Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05

Thank you very much Patrick, Ned and Edward. I will do what you are
suggesting and let Epicor convert my data and will do migration instead of
upgrade.

Best,


Eva Cummings, CFO
Apex Die Corp
www.apexdie.com




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Greetings Vantage Gurus,

We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am
finally ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time
being I will do it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I
was told that I have to install each version and convert data base to
each version. However, do I need to go through all patches and upgrades
in each version? Is there any shortcut that would speed the process up?

Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!

Eva Cummings
Apex Die Corp
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Eva



You can work with Epicor Consulting, send them your DB, they convert it
and send back.

Less expensive than all the time you will spend setting a conversion pc
and figuring it out yourself.

If you haven't purchased a new server yet just buy a PC with a solid
state drive you can run 1 user with that to take a look around at the
new stuff.



Patrick Winter



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eva Cummings
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 14:57
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05






Greetings Vantage Gurus,

We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am
finally ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time
being I will do it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I
was told that I have to install each version and convert data base to
each version. However, do I need to go through all patches and upgrades
in each version? Is there any shortcut that would speed the process up?

Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!

Eva Cummings
Apex Die Corp





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You can do it yourself versus paying.

The only cost if you do it yourself is your time, but you can usually set it
to run and walk away for a while and then come back.

You would want to update from 6.1 to 8.0, then 8.03.400, then 9.04, then
9.05. You only need to run the process with the most recent service pack
installed for each version, and you can put all of them on the same machine.
9.04 and 9.05 are both done with the DUU with 9.05, but you do need a
license and the install media for all of them.

However, I would like to say that the majority of people don't actually
upgrade, or at least when they finally go live they don't end up upgrading,
they end up migrating instead.

There are massive changes in so many different pieces of the program, and
much like the telephone game from when you are a kid, every level of change
means things get distorted a little bit differently. I would suggest looking
at the whole situation and take a guess at how much time it will take you to
upgrade and fix all your broken things, versus just doing a migration which
is essentially a new implementation, and then you can also use it as an
opportunity to cleanse your data, so you end up with a much cleaner database
when done.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Eva Cummings
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05


Greetings Vantage Gurus,

We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am finally
ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time being I will do
it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I was told that I have
to install each version and convert data base to each version. However, do
I need to go through all patches and upgrades in each version? Is there any
shortcut that would speed the process up?

Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!

Eva Cummings
Apex Die Corp




------------------------------------

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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I would treat this as a new install. There are significant fundability and
database schema changes.

Jim_chance@...



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ned
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 7:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05





You can do it yourself versus paying.

The only cost if you do it yourself is your time, but you can usually set it
to run and walk away for a while and then come back.

You would want to update from 6.1 to 8.0, then 8.03.400, then 9.04, then
9.05. You only need to run the process with the most recent service pack
installed for each version, and you can put all of them on the same machine.
9.04 and 9.05 are both done with the DUU with 9.05, but you do need a
license and the install media for all of them.

However, I would like to say that the majority of people don't actually
upgrade, or at least when they finally go live they don't end up upgrading,
they end up migrating instead.

There are massive changes in so many different pieces of the program, and
much like the telephone game from when you are a kid, every level of change
means things get distorted a little bit differently. I would suggest looking
at the whole situation and take a guess at how much time it will take you to
upgrade and fix all your broken things, versus just doing a migration which
is essentially a new implementation, and then you can also use it as an
opportunity to cleanse your data, so you end up with a much cleaner database
when done.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
Eva Cummings
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:57 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Upgrading Vantage from version 6.1 to 9.05

Greetings Vantage Gurus,

We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am finally
ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time being I will do
it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I was told that I have
to install each version and convert data base to each version. However, do
I need to go through all patches and upgrades in each version? Is there any
shortcut that would speed the process up?

Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!

Eva Cummings
Apex Die Corp

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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
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>>For the time being I will do it
>>only on one machine for test/training purposes.
>> I was told that I have to install each version
>> and convert data base to each version.
For testing, if you want to use your data, I don't think there are any shortcuts. If you follow the guides & do it yourself it will probably take a couple of days.
The biggest changes I noticed
- From 6 to 8 is resources and resource groups
- From 8 to 9 is UOMs and financials

You might want to do a fresh install & use the training database too.

I do like using my own data for testing only.
Beyond that I agree with the other posts, that it is better to migrate than upgrade. Thaink about having Epicor convert your data or getting the DMT.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Eva Cummings" <ecummings@...> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings Vantage Gurus,
>
> We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am
> finally ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time
> being I will do it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I
> was told that I have to install each version and convert data base to
> each version. However, do I need to go through all patches and upgrades
> in each version? Is there any shortcut that would speed the process up?
>
> Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!
>
> Eva Cummings
> Apex Die Corp
>
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Is there a guide for migration best practices? For instance what data
is best to be migrated and any tools to facilitate?

Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA, CGMA
Controller
Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
Phone 401-596-0162 · Fax 401-596-1050
www.maxsonautomatic.com

On 4/20/2013 2:08 PM, b_ordway wrote:
>
> >>For the time being I will do it
> >>only on one machine for test/training purposes.
> >> I was told that I have to install each version
> >> and convert data base to each version.
> For testing, if you want to use your data, I don't think there are any
> shortcuts. If you follow the guides & do it yourself it will probably
> take a couple of days.
> The biggest changes I noticed
> - From 6 to 8 is resources and resource groups
> - From 8 to 9 is UOMs and financials
>
> You might want to do a fresh install & use the training database too.
>
> I do like using my own data for testing only.
> Beyond that I agree with the other posts, that it is better to migrate
> than upgrade. Thaink about having Epicor convert your data or getting
> the DMT.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Eva Cummings" <ecummings@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Greetings Vantage Gurus,
> >
> > We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am
> > finally ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time
> > being I will do it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I
> > was told that I have to install each version and convert data base to
> > each version. However, do I need to go through all patches and upgrades
> > in each version? Is there any shortcut that would speed the process up?
> >
> > Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!
> >
> > Eva Cummings
> > Apex Die Corp
> >
>
>



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Thank you very much Patrick, Ned and Edward. I will do what you are
suggesting and let Epicor convert my data and will do migration instead
of upgrade.

Best,


Eva Cummings, CFO
Apex Die Corp
www.apexdie.com




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I've never seen anything for "best practices", just the basic upgrade guides from Epicor.
>>and any tools to facilitate?
Check out the Data Migration Tool (DMT), you'll probably need to talk with your CAM if you haven't already.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Edward F. Fox, Jr." <efox@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a guide for migration best practices? For instance what data
> is best to be migrated and any tools to facilitate?
>
> Edward F. Fox, Jr., CPA, CGMA
> Controller
> Maxson Automatic Machinery Company
> Phone 401-596-0162 · Fax 401-596-1050
> www.maxsonautomatic.com
>
> On 4/20/2013 2:08 PM, b_ordway wrote:
> >
> > >>For the time being I will do it
> > >>only on one machine for test/training purposes.
> > >> I was told that I have to install each version
> > >> and convert data base to each version.
> > For testing, if you want to use your data, I don't think there are any
> > shortcuts. If you follow the guides & do it yourself it will probably
> > take a couple of days.
> > The biggest changes I noticed
> > - From 6 to 8 is resources and resource groups
> > - From 8 to 9 is UOMs and financials
> >
> > You might want to do a fresh install & use the training database too.
> >
> > I do like using my own data for testing only.
> > Beyond that I agree with the other posts, that it is better to migrate
> > than upgrade. Thaink about having Epicor convert your data or getting
> > the DMT.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Eva Cummings" <ecummings@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings Vantage Gurus,
> > >
> > > We are still on 6.1. I was holding off as long as I could but I am
> > > finally ready to take the plunge to Vantage 9.05.700. For the time
> > > being I will do it only on one machine for test/training purposes. I
> > > was told that I have to install each version and convert data base to
> > > each version. However, do I need to go through all patches and upgrades
> > > in each version? Is there any shortcut that would speed the process up?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for any helpful hints!
> > >
> > > Eva Cummings
> > > Apex Die Corp
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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