Unfirm jobs with no demand, min or safety stock

Hi there,

I’m new to Epicor and to this forum, so please bear with me.

MRP keeps creating unfirm jobs for parts that don’t need new jobs, and we can’t figure out why. One part is particularly mysterious. There’s no demand, no min, no safety, no forecasts, but MRP keeps suggesting a job. Thoughts?

What does time phase say for that part?

Time phase a good place to start - also look at planning workbench and job manager as it may be that you will have messages about cancelling/rescheduling existing/firm jobs and MRP is replacing and consolidating these.

Also for the mysterious part I would check to see what quantity you have on hand - if it is negative it may be trying to get back to zero also check if it is used anywhere else.

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Time phase shows absolutely nothing…except for the unfirm job. There are no existing jobs and we have none on hand.

@scarlette - What do the MRP logs show for this part number when you have full logging turned on (MRP & Scheduling)?

Ex:
09:07:26 Processing Part:12RV10GEW10. V200
09:07:26 Processing Part:12RV10GEW10 Site:MfgSys.
09:07:26 Parameters: Receive Time -> 0; Planning Fence -> 0; Delta In -> 0; Delta Out -> 0; Lead Time CutOff -> , Use Dynamic DOS -> False, Allow Consume Min -> False
09:07:26 Deleting suggestions
09:07:26 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:12RV10GEW10.
09:07:26 Processing order requirement, Order:7466315 Line:1 Rel:1.
09:07:26 Get Destination
09:07:26 Create Intersite Supply
09:07:26 Creating new unfirm job:U-000000000132 Quantity:2.00000000.
09:07:26 Adding to job:U-000000000132 Quantity:2.00000000.
09:07:26 Copying BOM from Part:12RV10GEW10 Rev:A to Job:U-000000000132.
09:07:26 Sent job U-000000000132 to SchedJobI
09:07:26 Processing stock transactions for Part:12RV10GEW10.
09:07:26 Beginning Balance 0
09:07:26 Done with Part 12RV10GEW10

Do you have demand in another Site that has a part.plant setting of transfer?

We only have one site.

We don’t have logging enabled…my IT guy is going to turn it on today.

Ok, finally got my hands on the MRP log:

Processing Part:7143. V600
04:01:44 Processing Part:7143 Site:MfgSys Contract:.
04:01:44 Parameters: Receive Time -> 10; Planning Fence -> 14; Delta In -> 7; Delta Out -> 7; Lead Time CutOff -> , Use Dynamic DOS -> False, Allow Consume Min -> True
04:01:44 Deleting suggestions
04:01:44 Deleting unfirm jobs for part 7143
04:01:44 Processing non-stock transactions for Part:7143.
04:01:44 Processing stock transactions for Part:7143.
04:01:44 Beginning Balance 0
04:01:44 Date changed, process date
04:01:44 Get Destination
04:01:44 Create Intersite Supply
04:01:44 Created new unfirm job:UFJ00000000020 Quantity:7143.
04:01:44 Created new unfirm job:UFJ00000000020 Quantity:250.00.
04:01:44 Adding to job:UFJ00000000020 Quantity:250.00.
04:01:44 Copying BOM from Part:7143 Rev:NONE to Job:UFJ00000000020.
04:01:45 Sent job UFJ00000000020 to SchedJobF
04:01:45 Done with Part 7143

@scarlette - Does the part show up when you open up the Planning Workbench > Search Binoculars > Return All Rows? If it does, try deleting the suggestion.

Might be time to pop in an EpicCare ticket. The MRP folks can help get to the root cause, or at least provide a regen process or fix to clean it up.

No, it doesn’t show up in Planning Workbench.

Hi Scarlette, We are new to Epicor also. We are having the same issues. Did you ever get a resoulution ?

Kevin H.

Hi Kevin,

Not yet, but Epicor support is currently working on a fix, so if you contact support and explain your issue they should be able to get you a fix.