To Epicor CEO's and Management team

I take a slightly different stance on this issue.

I wonder how many of us are tired of keeping our frustrations pent up and not saying anything about it.

Considering the fact that we sign the paychecks for Epicor's employees (as with any vendor) we should have some say in the direction Epicor is heading. I strongly feel that in my business if I don't listen to my customers they should head elsewhere.

I am not trying to insult Epicor in anyway, please don't take that from what I have said in this email. I am just in support of venting a little frustration in the only place one of us feels we may get heard.

Maybe the email was constructed in a way that doesn't comply with standards in this group, but don't take away the fact that this person has an extremely valid concern, and that everyone should be aware.

Just a bit of advice--I attended Perspectives last year, and George Klaus (Chairman and CEO) spoke eloquently about his concerns about our satisfaction. He mentioned that he takes and responds to his email. If other routes seems to get nowhere, perhaps an email direct to him can help. I don't know for sure, but I would guess that his email is gklaus@....




Ben Belzer
Inside Sales Manager

TCI Precision Metals
800.234.5613.W
310.323.1255.F
bbelzer@...
www.tciprecision.com


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gerard Wadman
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team

AFAIK, Epicor has confirmed that there is a problem with the latest
Crystal runtime when installed on Windows 2000 and have indicated that
it and SP 808 should not be applied to Win2K until they can resolve the
issue.





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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:56 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team




Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the content of
the
message.

Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being supported?
What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to this on
the
Epicor Website?

The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM Box.
and
no return call.

I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can shed
some
light to this, I would be most appreciative.

Thank you,

Rob Bernaldo
IT Tech
Suburban Graphics, Inc


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Where are your promises to make Vantage client compatible with any
operating system?
Without any announcement you stop supporting Windows 2000. Customers
paying you big bucks for maintenance and you unable to support them.
Do you know how many customers using other operating systems than
Windows XP?
Did you do survey before you change?
If you can't deliver upgrades and support your customers will have to
discontinue the maintenance agreement............

You need to fix Vantage 8 and Crystal.

Thank you for attention.
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Strong words,

My comment is a point of Etti-ket. for all the members. If you intend
to make strong comments the expectation of the list is that you UN-
AMBIGUOUSLY identify yourself and your company. You need to take
responsibility for your words. Unsigned postings from a blank profile
just wont cut it.


Shirley Graver
Moderator
Before someone is vetted for inclusion in this YahooGroup (customer, Epicor, consultant, etc... with Vantage or Vista connection/ownership) doesn't this process require registering with their true identity and credentials? It's been a long time since I joined. Assuming you know the "identity" behind an email address or screen name would it be an OK policy for the moderators to "thank" anonymous senders for their comments, by name?

On the other hand tracking down blank profiles and or their validity would be time consuming for the moderators and it is an under-appreciated enough job as it is.
-Todd C.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:55 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team


MODERATOR COMMENT

Strong words,

My comment is a point of Etti-ket. for all the members. If you intend
to make strong comments the expectation of the list is that you UN-
AMBIGUOUSLY identify yourself and your company. You need to take
responsibility for your words. Unsigned postings from a blank profile
just wont cut it.


Shirley Graver
Moderator






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Members are vetted, Identity is known. And yes we could "OUT" that member.
But I want us to aspire to a higher standard. WE are supposed to be
professionals and smarter than most. The nature of the list allows us to
THINK before posting. Not an unreasonable expectation. I believe that the
members of this list have a right to know who is behind a strong statement
and that includes Epicor, they are "members" too. The moderators have a
responsibility to maintain control, call the fouls, and in general try to
keep it fair to all. Overall we are not going to allow this list to spiral
into a "KILL THE WABBIT, KILL THE WABBIT" situation. Strong unsigned posts
concern me in that regard.

Shirley Graver
Moderator

_____


Before someone is vetted for inclusion in this YahooGroup (customer, Epicor,
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been a long time since I joined. Assuming you know the "identity" behind
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to "thank" anonymous senders for their comments, by name?

On the other hand tracking down blank profiles and or their validity would
be time consuming for the moderators and it is an under-appreciated enough
job as it is.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team


MODERATOR COMMENT

Strong words,

My comment is a point of Etti-ket. for all the members. If you intend
to make strong comments the expectation of the list is that you UN-
AMBIGUOUSLY identify yourself and your company. You need to take
responsibility for your words. Unsigned postings from a blank profile
just wont cut it.


Shirley Graver
Moderator






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--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...> wrote:
>
I must be missing something - wouldn't be the 1st time - doesn't the
senders name and email address show up in the posting even if they
don't sign? I agree, there is no company name, but the posting does
appear to have a real owner.

Joe La Bore


> Members are vetted, Identity is known. And yes we could "OUT" that
member.
> But I want us to aspire to a higher standard. WE are supposed to be
> professionals and smarter than most. The nature of the list allows
us to
> THINK before posting. Not an unreasonable expectation. I believe
that the
> members of this list have a right to know who is behind a strong
statement
> and that includes Epicor, they are "members" too. The moderators have a
> responsibility to maintain control, call the fouls, and in general
try to
> keep it fair to all. Overall we are not going to allow this list to
spiral
> into a "KILL THE WABBIT, KILL THE WABBIT" situation. Strong
unsigned posts
> concern me in that regard.
>
> Shirley Graver
> Moderator
>
> _____
>
>
> Before someone is vetted for inclusion in this YahooGroup (customer,
Epicor,
> consultant, etc... with Vantage or Vista connection/ownership)
doesn't this
> process require registering with their true identity and
credentials? It's
> been a long time since I joined. Assuming you know the "identity"
behind
> an email address or screen name would it be an OK policy for the
moderators
> to "thank" anonymous senders for their comments, by name?
>
> On the other hand tracking down blank profiles and or their validity
would
> be time consuming for the moderators and it is an under-appreciated
enough
> job as it is.
> -Todd C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team
>
>
> MODERATOR COMMENT
>
> Strong words,
>
> My comment is a point of Etti-ket. for all the members. If you intend
> to make strong comments the expectation of the list is that you UN-
> AMBIGUOUSLY identify yourself and your company. You need to take
> responsibility for your words. Unsigned postings from a blank profile
> just wont cut it.
>
>
> Shirley Graver
> Moderator
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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You are absolutely correct, and this group has enough talent that anyone
could pull that information out. There was a thread earlier this week about
etique. This posting is a good example to use why its important to clearly
identify yourself. I think it is only fair that you take ownership for
strong words, that hasn't happened in this case. I've made strong posts
directed at Epicor, and members both, everyone alway knew who it was from.

Shirley Graver
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--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...> wrote:
>
I must be missing something - wouldn't be the 1st time - doesn't the
senders name and email address show up in the posting even if they
don't sign? I agree, there is no company name, but the posting does
appear to have a real owner.

Joe La Bore


> Members are vetted, Identity is known. And yes we could "OUT" that
member.
> But I want us to aspire to a higher standard. WE are supposed to be
> professionals and smarter than most. The nature of the list allows
us to
> THINK before posting. Not an unreasonable expectation. I believe
that the
> members of this list have a right to know who is behind a strong
statement
> and that includes Epicor, they are "members" too. The moderators have a
> responsibility to maintain control, call the fouls, and in general
try to
> keep it fair to all. Overall we are not going to allow this list to
spiral
> into a "KILL THE WABBIT, KILL THE WABBIT" situation. Strong
unsigned posts
> concern me in that regard.
>
> Shirley Graver
> Moderator
>
> _____
>
>
> Before someone is vetted for inclusion in this YahooGroup (customer,
Epicor,
> consultant, etc... with Vantage or Vista connection/ownership)
doesn't this
> process require registering with their true identity and
credentials? It's
> been a long time since I joined. Assuming you know the "identity"
behind
> an email address or screen name would it be an OK policy for the
moderators
> to "thank" anonymous senders for their comments, by name?
>
> On the other hand tracking down blank profiles and or their validity
would
> be time consuming for the moderators and it is an under-appreciated
enough
> job as it is.
> -Todd C.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team
>
>
> MODERATOR COMMENT
>
> Strong words,
>
> My comment is a point of Etti-ket. for all the members. If you intend
> to make strong comments the expectation of the list is that you UN-
> AMBIGUOUSLY identify yourself and your company. You need to take
> responsibility for your words. Unsigned postings from a blank profile
> just wont cut it.
>
>
> Shirley Graver
> Moderator
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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>
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the content of the
message.

Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being supported?
What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to this on the
Epicor Website?

The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM Box. and
no return call.

I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can shed some
light to this, I would be most appreciative.

Thank you,

Rob Bernaldo
IT Tech
Suburban Graphics, Inc


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AFAIK, Epicor has confirmed that there is a problem with the latest
Crystal runtime when installed on Windows 2000 and have indicated that
it and SP 808 should not be applied to Win2K until they can resolve the
issue.





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Of Robert F. Bernaldo
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:56 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team




Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the content of
the
message.

Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being supported?
What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to this on
the
Epicor Website?

The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM Box.
and
no return call.

I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can shed
some
light to this, I would be most appreciative.

Thank you,

Rob Bernaldo
IT Tech
Suburban Graphics, Inc


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This is the answer from Epicor:


"Listening to customers continued requests for increased speed and
efficiency of crystal reports printing from Vantage 8.0, Epicor with
the assistance of Business Objects (the makers of Crystal Reports)
enhanced the current Crystal Reports Runtime Engine using the latest
Microsoft technology that is currently only available on Windows XP
Service Pack 2 and later. The resulting product, Crystal Reports XI
Runtime R2, increases printing performance dramatically.



This enhancement was in direct response to customers concerns about
printing performance.
To utilize this new functionality the client is required to be on
Windows XP Service Pack 2. Without this operating system or an
operating system released after this, printing Crystal Reports from
Vantage will not function correctly due to not having the latest
technology available.



Microsoft dropped support for Windows 2000 last year. Since
Microsoft took this action we were forced to also drop support for
this platform. Before the .808 service pack there were no known
issues preventing its use, but it was not a
supported/tested/certified platform since the Vendor (Microsoft) was
no longer supporting it. We will always do our best to maintain
compatibility with older versions of platforms/products whenever
possible, but it is not always possible to deliver requested
functional enhancements (in this case printing performance
improvements) while doing so.



Epicor is actively looking for a way to modify the current enhanced
runtime engine by combining it with components of the previous
runtime engine to allow this to run on previous, non-supported
operating systems. This will not harness any of the new performance
enhancements and this potential workaround is not a long term
solution by any means. Any workaround will not be fully supported
and may stop functioning with future releases without prior
notification.





Thank you in advance for not responding to this email. Email is not
monitored and could delay service on support issues. You will need
to contact the support center by one of the following 3 methods:



1) Calling our support line at 800-269-3044 for Vantage, 800-483-4049
for Vista or 800-426-8468 for Vantage 8

2) Over the Internet via our website at http://www.epicor.com

3) By fax at 952-582-5568



Please send any email responses for on-going issues to
Vantage.res@... or Vista.res@...



New issues can be logged in the eportal www.Epicor.com"

Mikhail.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Robert F. Bernaldo" <rbernaldo@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the
content of the
> message.
>
> Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being
supported?
> What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to
this on the
> Epicor Website?
>
> The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM
Box. and
> no return call.
>
> I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can
shed some
> light to this, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rob Bernaldo
> IT Tech
> Suburban Graphics, Inc
>
>
> This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If
you have
> received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately
and then
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disclose
> or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We
have
> taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software
viruses, but
> we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment
to this
> message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by
> software viruses.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Looking at the Microsoft website today, it says they intend to support
through 2010:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/extendedsupport.mspx

Ron Robinson
Director of Purchasing
LI-COR Biosciences

Phone: 402-467-0606
FAX: 402-467-0867
Email: ron.robinson@...
Web: www.licor.com



"mxi_m" <mikhail_m@...>
Sent by: vantage@yahoogroups.com
05/25/2006 01:13 PM
Please respond to
vantage@yahoogroups.com


To
vantage@yahoogroups.com
cc

Subject
[SPAM] [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team






This is the answer from Epicor:


"Listening to customers continued requests for increased speed and
efficiency of crystal reports printing from Vantage 8.0, Epicor with
the assistance of Business Objects (the makers of Crystal Reports)
enhanced the current Crystal Reports Runtime Engine using the latest
Microsoft technology that is currently only available on Windows XP
Service Pack 2 and later. The resulting product, Crystal Reports XI
Runtime R2, increases printing performance dramatically.



This enhancement was in direct response to customers concerns about
printing performance.
To utilize this new functionality the client is required to be on
Windows XP Service Pack 2. Without this operating system or an
operating system released after this, printing Crystal Reports from
Vantage will not function correctly due to not having the latest
technology available.



Microsoft dropped support for Windows 2000 last year. Since
Microsoft took this action we were forced to also drop support for
this platform. Before the .808 service pack there were no known
issues preventing its use, but it was not a
supported/tested/certified platform since the Vendor (Microsoft) was
no longer supporting it. We will always do our best to maintain
compatibility with older versions of platforms/products whenever
possible, but it is not always possible to deliver requested
functional enhancements (in this case printing performance
improvements) while doing so.



Epicor is actively looking for a way to modify the current enhanced
runtime engine by combining it with components of the previous
runtime engine to allow this to run on previous, non-supported
operating systems. This will not harness any of the new performance
enhancements and this potential workaround is not a long term
solution by any means. Any workaround will not be fully supported
and may stop functioning with future releases without prior
notification.





Thank you in advance for not responding to this email. Email is not
monitored and could delay service on support issues. You will need
to contact the support center by one of the following 3 methods:



1) Calling our support line at 800-269-3044 for Vantage, 800-483-4049
for Vista or 800-426-8468 for Vantage 8

2) Over the Internet via our website at http://www.epicor.com

3) By fax at 952-582-5568



Please send any email responses for on-going issues to
Vantage.res@... or Vista.res@...



New issues can be logged in the eportal www.Epicor.com"

Mikhail.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Robert F. Bernaldo" <rbernaldo@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the
content of the
> message.
>
> Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being
supported?
> What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to
this on the
> Epicor Website?
>
> The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM
Box. and
> no return call.
>
> I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can
shed some
> light to this, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rob Bernaldo
> IT Tech
> Suburban Graphics, Inc
>
>
> This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If
you have
> received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately
and then
> delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use,
disclose
> or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We
have
> taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software
viruses, but
> we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment
to this
> message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by
> software viruses.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
This is an excerpt from the most recent SP install guide



"To improve performance, a new version of Crystal Reports 11 R2 Runtime
is available on the EpicWeb web site with this service pack. The
installation file, Crystal Reports 11 R2 Runtime.msi, must be run and
installed on any machine that needs to run Crystal Reports. Please
remove the existing "Epicor Crystal Runtime" from Add/Remove Programs,
and then install the "Epicor Crystal Reports 11 R2 Runtime". Note: The
Epicor Crystal 10 development environment can still be used to modify
any standard Crystal reports and forms. Windows XP Service Pack 2 is
required for the client printing with this Crystal release. Windows 2000
is no longer supported by Microsoft. Any Windows 2000 installation
should be upgraded to XP prior to installing Crystal XI R2 Runtime."














I am in the process of following up with Microsoft to confirm that they
discontinued support for WIN2K. This is the first I've heard of it.

As far as MS dropping support last year, if Epicor did make such a
statement, then I'm afraid that they are flat out lying as I have gotten
support on a Win2K pro workstation from MS this past February.

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of mxi_m
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:13 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team



This is the answer from Epicor:


"Listening to customers continued requests for increased speed and
efficiency of crystal reports printing from Vantage 8.0, Epicor with
the assistance of Business Objects (the makers of Crystal Reports)
enhanced the current Crystal Reports Runtime Engine using the latest
Microsoft technology that is currently only available on Windows XP
Service Pack 2 and later. The resulting product, Crystal Reports XI
Runtime R2, increases printing performance dramatically.



This enhancement was in direct response to customers concerns about
printing performance.
To utilize this new functionality the client is required to be on
Windows XP Service Pack 2. Without this operating system or an
operating system released after this, printing Crystal Reports from
Vantage will not function correctly due to not having the latest
technology available.



Microsoft dropped support for Windows 2000 last year. Since
Microsoft took this action we were forced to also drop support for
this platform. Before the .808 service pack there were no known
issues preventing its use, but it was not a
supported/tested/certified platform since the Vendor (Microsoft) was
no longer supporting it. We will always do our best to maintain
compatibility with older versions of platforms/products whenever
possible, but it is not always possible to deliver requested
functional enhancements (in this case printing performance
improvements) while doing so.



Epicor is actively looking for a way to modify the current enhanced
runtime engine by combining it with components of the previous
runtime engine to allow this to run on previous, non-supported
operating systems. This will not harness any of the new performance
enhancements and this potential workaround is not a long term
solution by any means. Any workaround will not be fully supported
and may stop functioning with future releases without prior
notification.





Thank you in advance for not responding to this email. Email is not
monitored and could delay service on support issues. You will need
to contact the support center by one of the following 3 methods:



1) Calling our support line at 800-269-3044 for Vantage, 800-483-4049
for Vista or 800-426-8468 for Vantage 8

2) Over the Internet via our website at http://www.epicor.com

3) By fax at 952-582-5568



Please send any email responses for on-going issues to
Vantage.res@... or Vista.res@...



New issues can be logged in the eportal www.Epicor.com"

Mikhail.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Robert F. Bernaldo" <rbernaldo@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the
content of the
> message.
>
> Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being
supported?
> What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to
this on the
> Epicor Website?
>
> The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM
Box. and
> no return call.
>
> I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can
shed some
> light to this, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rob Bernaldo
> IT Tech
> Suburban Graphics, Inc
>
>
> This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If
you have
> received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately
and then
> delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use,
disclose
> or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We
have
> taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software
viruses, but
> we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment
to this
> message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by
> software viruses.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>







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have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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I just found out that free support ended June 30th of 2005, but the
extended support will remain available until July 13th 2010.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071



Looks like Epicor got caught in a lie.

Considering that hundreds of customers have spent over $100,000 each on
average to purchase Vantage 8, I think it's a pretty sad state of
affairs.



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ron.robinson@...
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:27 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team



Looking at the Microsoft website today, it says they intend to support
through 2010:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/ex
tendedsupport.mspx

Ron Robinson
Director of Purchasing
LI-COR Biosciences

Phone: 402-467-0606
FAX: 402-467-0867
Email: ron.robinson@...
Web: www.licor.com



"mxi_m" <mikhail_m@...>
Sent by: vantage@yahoogroups.com
05/25/2006 01:13 PM
Please respond to
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Subject
[SPAM] [Vantage] Re: To Epicor CEO's and Management team






This is the answer from Epicor:


"Listening to customers continued requests for increased speed and
efficiency of crystal reports printing from Vantage 8.0, Epicor with
the assistance of Business Objects (the makers of Crystal Reports)
enhanced the current Crystal Reports Runtime Engine using the latest
Microsoft technology that is currently only available on Windows XP
Service Pack 2 and later. The resulting product, Crystal Reports XI
Runtime R2, increases printing performance dramatically.



This enhancement was in direct response to customers concerns about
printing performance.
To utilize this new functionality the client is required to be on
Windows XP Service Pack 2. Without this operating system or an
operating system released after this, printing Crystal Reports from
Vantage will not function correctly due to not having the latest
technology available.



Microsoft dropped support for Windows 2000 last year. Since
Microsoft took this action we were forced to also drop support for
this platform. Before the .808 service pack there were no known
issues preventing its use, but it was not a
supported/tested/certified platform since the Vendor (Microsoft) was
no longer supporting it. We will always do our best to maintain
compatibility with older versions of platforms/products whenever
possible, but it is not always possible to deliver requested
functional enhancements (in this case printing performance
improvements) while doing so.



Epicor is actively looking for a way to modify the current enhanced
runtime engine by combining it with components of the previous
runtime engine to allow this to run on previous, non-supported
operating systems. This will not harness any of the new performance
enhancements and this potential workaround is not a long term
solution by any means. Any workaround will not be fully supported
and may stop functioning with future releases without prior
notification.





Thank you in advance for not responding to this email. Email is not
monitored and could delay service on support issues. You will need
to contact the support center by one of the following 3 methods:



1) Calling our support line at 800-269-3044 for Vantage, 800-483-4049
for Vista or 800-426-8468 for Vantage 8

2) Over the Internet via our website at http://www.epicor.com

3) By fax at 952-582-5568



Please send any email responses for on-going issues to
Vantage.res@... or Vista.res@...



New issues can be logged in the eportal www.Epicor.com"

Mikhail.




--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Robert F. Bernaldo" <rbernaldo@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Granted the issue of etiquette. but I'd like to question the
content of the
> message.
>
> Has there been in fact any confirmation of 2K no longer being
supported?
> What is the Effect? What are the details? Is there reference to
this on the
> Epicor Website?
>
> The last time I called my Epicor support #, I went straight to a VM
Box. and
> no return call.
>
> I don't want to go into panic mode yet, so if anyone out there can
shed some
> light to this, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rob Bernaldo
> IT Tech
> Suburban Graphics, Inc
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