Showing cure time on a job without a resource

We have a job (1 operation only) which requires minimal assembly but then has a 48 hour epoxy cure time. Looking for ideas on how to show the 48 hours on the schedule without it being tied to a resource.

Queue Hours/Move hours can only be set at the resource level and only used as an offset for when an Op can start or when the next Op can start, this is an issue as it would be the last Op on the job so it would have no effect as there is no next Op…people look to be putting in dummy Op’s to solve this issue which I don’t think we want to do.

At the part Level there is Production Prep Buffer/Kit Time/Receive Time, all of these have to do with material lead time or only the Start Date.

And you can’t have an Op that is NOT tied to a resource, so we can’t have a Cure Op to show the 48 hours

Could you use Move Time for this?

Thinking outside the box. You could have the actual task of applying the epoxy be the Setup and then the Production time is the cure time. :man_shrugging:

As long as it was 48 hours every time, I think you might be able to use the Move Hours on the resource group to do this, I don’t think the Move Hours block another job from starting, it just makes the current job wait the move hours before moving to the next op.

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To support @Evan_Purdy suggestion, even Epicor recommends that in the Scheduling Tech Ref guide.

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Receive Time should force the job to “finish” earlier than it’s actually needed. In this case if you set the receive time to 2 days, then the assembly op would schedule to finish 2 days before the job is due (so the parts can sit and cure).

If you want an operation to explicitly take that time, you could create a “Curing Shelf” resource set to infinite capacity with a 24/7 calendar. That way you’re not tracking/using any sort of capacity and scheduling on that resource.

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@Grohs6 I’ll throw my 2 cents in.

Does the cure time take up space (or the floor, shelf, oven, etc.), or molds, or otherwise prevent another job from proceeding during the Cure time? If it does, in any way prevent another operation from occurring, then you might want to consider giving the operation a resource (e.g. “Floor Space#1” or “Shelf 3”) and allowing for @jkane suggestion of

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We currently use ‘Receive Time’ at the part level to account for this. The reason being is cure time can vary from part to part so using the options on the resource level (Move Time, etc) aren’t appropriate.

This isn’t ideal. I have lately been thinking about the options mentioned by @tsmith and @MikeGross that would involve setting up a curing resource with a 24/7 schedule and a curing operation with the appropriate curing time specified in the MOM. Backflushing the operation when complete. I think this would result in the most accurate representation of reality.

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Agree. I would set the Labor Entry to Quantity Only as it would allow for the Operation to be the last. Since the cure time is set on the estimate, you don’t need to worry about the time.

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When you say “on the schedule” (and mean the production schedule), in Epicor that means it has to be on a resource. Scheduling is capacity, and capacity is resources.

What is the end result you’re looking for? If you are looking for some way to signal your material handlers when these parts can be received to stock, that isn’t (at least in Epicor parlance) a “scheduling” issue. What is the purpose of the “48 hours on the schedule?”