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Hi Mark,

I can only put 2 characters in the unit of measure in Vantage 8. Can
you use more? Is there some setup somewhere restricting us to 2
characters or you talking about Epicor 9.

Regards,
Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM

Hi Linda,

Just a couple of things:

- The UOM field is larger than two characters.

- At the part level, you can override the conversion fact by doing a
part
specific UOM. See the new UOM tab in Part Entry.

Mark W.

On Jun 3, 2010 8:41 AM, "Linda Lowney" <llowney@...> wrote:



Hi Richard,

Please do elaborate. In Vantage 8 we use SH for sheets and LN for bar
stock. During conversion we have to tell Vantage what class and
conversion factor to use for SH. Obviously I can't do that since there
could be many conversion factors.

After talking to LeAnn it sounds like I need to go through all my parts
and make up new units of measure for the different sheet sizes and bar
stock before doing the conversion - if I can make enough combinations
using only 2 characters for UOM. Then after conversion go through all
the parts again and create more logical unit of measure codes.

Regards,
Linda



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behal...

Of Sirow Richard
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM

One solution to the problem is to set up multiple UOM's like PK20 or
PK25 to handle fixed quantities...



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Hi Joe,



I'm happy to say we don't use dimensionally tracked parts. When we
tried the conversion I was unable to make changes to the UOM class on
any parts.



When we try the conversion again I'll take your advice and run the stock
status reports.



Thank you,

Linda





From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of wipaire_vantage
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:51 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Epicor 9 UOM





Linda,

I can't stress enough. Test the UOM's. Especially if you are using
Dimensionally Tracked Parts. Dimensionally Tracked parts will
automatically create your parts to be Part Specific. With this done, you
will not be able to change your parts to a different UOM class.

I also found a bug in the conversion of these Dimensionally Tracked
Parts. We are currently running Vantage 6.1. We wanted to go live to
Epicor 9 back around September but ran into these UOM issues. Epicor
finally admitted to me that there is an issue in December of 2009. I
gave them a solution that I would be willing to work with. To this day,
I have not gotten anything from Epicor saying when this problem will be
fixed. Just that they are working on getting it fixed.

In addtion, to test your unit of measure conversion, Run your Stock
Status in your old system. then run it in Epicor 9. The value of your
inventory should not change. Ours did by $200K.

Once again, Test, Test, Test.

Joe Sanders
jsanders@... <mailto:jsanders%40wipaire.com>
wipaire, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Linda Lowney" <llowney@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Please do elaborate. In Vantage 8 we use SH for sheets and LN for bar
> stock. During conversion we have to tell Vantage what class and
> conversion factor to use for SH. Obviously I can't do that since there
> could be many conversion factors.
>
> After talking to LeAnn it sounds like I need to go through all my
parts
> and make up new units of measure for the different sheet sizes and bar
> stock before doing the conversion - if I can make enough combinations
> using only 2 characters for UOM. Then after conversion go through all
> the parts again and create more logical unit of measure codes.
>
> Regards,
> Linda
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Sirow Richard
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
>
> One solution to the problem is to set up multiple UOM's like PK20 or
> PK25 to handle fixed quantities.
>
> We also buy Bar Stock by the Pound and inventory it by the Inch. I use
> a part specific conversion that is different for each material. It is
a
> permanent conversion factor, but there is a trick to correct errors or
> adjust for changes in the factor. I would be glad to elaborate if you
> would like.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard L Sirow, President
> Independent Components Corp.
> 528 Hempstead Turnpike
> West Hempstead, NY 11552
> rick@...
> Ph: 516-481-5100x106
> Fx: 516-481-5550
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Linda Lowney wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > Did you ever resolve this? We can't convert to 9 until the whole UOM
> > issue is resolved. Our problem is that we buy aluminum by the pound
> and
> > stock it by the sheet or length, therefore depending on the size and
> > thickness the conversion factor can vary greatly.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of RICH WAGNER
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:28 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
> >
> > We are evaluating Epicor 9 and have issues with the Inventory UOM.
> When
> > we covert our data to Epicor 9, we can no longer change the
Inventory
> > UOM on the part maintenance level. The problem is a few of our UOM
> like
> > PK can be a pack almost any quantity like packs of 20 or 25 and you
> can
> > only factor each UOM once.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this issue and resolved it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Wagner
> > [cid:image001.jpg@...
> > <mailto:image001.jpg%4001CAC6AF.95BA9550> ]
> > 2148 Century Drive
> > Jefferson Hills, PA 15025
> > Phone: (412) 384-3100 x159
> > Fax: (412) 384-2033
> > www.bawplastics.com<http://www.bawplastics.com>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
)
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>





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Linda,

This is what we did.
First we cleaned up all the various UOM's which included many typo's in Vantage before converting so we did not create a lot of Junk UOM's that we would be stuck with in Epicor.

In Epicor, after conversion, I set up the following:
We inventory Bar Stock by the inch, but purchase by the Pound. Within the Length Measurement Part Class I set up a Part Specific UOM of LBs (to not be confused with the UOM LB in the Weight Measurement Part Class). For each part, I added the Part Specific Conversion Factor the next time I ordered the material. This allows Epicor to convert from LBs not only to IN but also to FT, YD etc. Since I normally purchase in 12' bars, I also set up a UOM of BAR12 defined as 144 IN.

For Sheets, under the Area Measurements I have set up UOM's (not part specific) such as SH36x for a 36x36" sheet defined as 9 SF. We also have SFe set up as a Part Specific conversion from Squarre Feet to Each.
For Rolled material I have set up UOM's such as LF36w for a Linear Foot of 36" wide material defined as 3 SF, or YD36w defined as 9 SF.

Rick

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Linda Lowney wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Please do elaborate. In Vantage 8 we use SH for sheets and LN for bar
> stock. During conversion we have to tell Vantage what class and
> conversion factor to use for SH. Obviously I can't do that since there
> could be many conversion factors.
>
> After talking to LeAnn it sounds like I need to go through all my parts
> and make up new units of measure for the different sheet sizes and bar
> stock before doing the conversion - if I can make enough combinations
> using only 2 characters for UOM. Then after conversion go through all
> the parts again and create more logical unit of measure codes.
>
> Regards,
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sirow Richard
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
>
> One solution to the problem is to set up multiple UOM's like PK20 or
> PK25 to handle fixed quantities.
>
> We also buy Bar Stock by the Pound and inventory it by the Inch. I use
> a part specific conversion that is different for each material. It is a
> permanent conversion factor, but there is a trick to correct errors or
> adjust for changes in the factor. I would be glad to elaborate if you
> would like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard L Sirow, President
> Independent Components Corp.
> 528 Hempstead Turnpike
> West Hempstead, NY 11552
> rick@...
> Ph: 516-481-5100x106
> Fx: 516-481-5550
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Linda Lowney wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > Did you ever resolve this? We can't convert to 9 until the whole UOM
> > issue is resolved. Our problem is that we buy aluminum by the pound
> and
> > stock it by the sheet or length, therefore depending on the size and
> > thickness the conversion factor can vary greatly.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of RICH WAGNER
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:28 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
> >
> > We are evaluating Epicor 9 and have issues with the Inventory UOM.
> When
> > we covert our data to Epicor 9, we can no longer change the Inventory
> > UOM on the part maintenance level. The problem is a few of our UOM
> like
> > PK can be a pack almost any quantity like packs of 20 or 25 and you
> can
> > only factor each UOM once.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this issue and resolved it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Wagner
> > [cid:image001.jpg@01CAC6AF.95BA9550
> > <mailto:image001.jpg%4001CAC6AF.95BA9550> ]
> > 2148 Century Drive
> > Jefferson Hills, PA 15025
> > Phone: (412) 384-3100 x159
> > Fax: (412) 384-2033
> > www.bawplastics.com<http://www.bawplastics.com>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>



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Group,

Thank you very much everyone who responded. I think we will be much
better prepared for the next try at converting to Epicor 9. I'm anxious
to get there and try out the new query and bpm features. I could care
less about parts, but alas other people do.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sirow Richard
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM

Linda,

This is what we did.
First we cleaned up all the various UOM's which included many typo's in
Vantage before converting so we did not create a lot of Junk UOM's that
we would be stuck with in Epicor.

In Epicor, after conversion, I set up the following:
We inventory Bar Stock by the inch, but purchase by the Pound. Within
the Length Measurement Part Class I set up a Part Specific UOM of LBs
(to not be confused with the UOM LB in the Weight Measurement Part
Class). For each part, I added the Part Specific Conversion Factor the
next time I ordered the material. This allows Epicor to convert from
LBs not only to IN but also to FT, YD etc. Since I normally purchase in
12' bars, I also set up a UOM of BAR12 defined as 144 IN.

For Sheets, under the Area Measurements I have set up UOM's (not part
specific) such as SH36x for a 36x36" sheet defined as 9 SF. We also
have SFe set up as a Part Specific conversion from Squarre Feet to Each.
For Rolled material I have set up UOM's such as LF36w for a Linear Foot
of 36" wide material defined as 3 SF, or YD36w defined as 9 SF.

Rick

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Linda Lowney wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Please do elaborate. In Vantage 8 we use SH for sheets and LN for bar
> stock. During conversion we have to tell Vantage what class and
> conversion factor to use for SH. Obviously I can't do that since there
> could be many conversion factors.
>
> After talking to LeAnn it sounds like I need to go through all my
parts
> and make up new units of measure for the different sheet sizes and bar
> stock before doing the conversion - if I can make enough combinations
> using only 2 characters for UOM. Then after conversion go through all
> the parts again and create more logical unit of measure codes.
>
> Regards,
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Sirow Richard
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
>
> One solution to the problem is to set up multiple UOM's like PK20 or
> PK25 to handle fixed quantities.
>
> We also buy Bar Stock by the Pound and inventory it by the Inch. I use
> a part specific conversion that is different for each material. It is
a
> permanent conversion factor, but there is a trick to correct errors or
> adjust for changes in the factor. I would be glad to elaborate if you
> would like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard L Sirow, President
> Independent Components Corp.
> 528 Hempstead Turnpike
> West Hempstead, NY 11552
> rick@...
> Ph: 516-481-5100x106
> Fx: 516-481-5550
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Linda Lowney wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > Did you ever resolve this? We can't convert to 9 until the whole UOM
> > issue is resolved. Our problem is that we buy aluminum by the pound
> and
> > stock it by the sheet or length, therefore depending on the size and
> > thickness the conversion factor can vary greatly.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of RICH WAGNER
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:28 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9 UOM
> >
> > We are evaluating Epicor 9 and have issues with the Inventory UOM.
> When
> > we covert our data to Epicor 9, we can no longer change the
Inventory
> > UOM on the part maintenance level. The problem is a few of our UOM
> like
> > PK can be a pack almost any quantity like packs of 20 or 25 and you
> can
> > only factor each UOM once.
> >
> > Has anyone else had this issue and resolved it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Wagner
> > [cid:image001.jpg@01CAC6AF.95BA9550
> > <mailto:image001.jpg%4001CAC6AF.95BA9550> ]
> > 2148 Century Drive
> > Jefferson Hills, PA 15025
> > Phone: (412) 384-3100 x159
> > Fax: (412) 384-2033
> > www.bawplastics.com<http://www.bawplastics.com>
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access.
)
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
>



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------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
25
I am running into this exact same problem. I have a POST SalesOrder.Update BPM which does everything I need, but I have to hit refresh on the release before I can do anything. If not I get "Record has been updated by another user".

A code example of the form event would be very helpful.