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Not familiar with 6 but.. In 8.03, if you had the quality module, I
would do a non conformance inventory against those 5 parts, at
inspection processing I would fail those 5 parts, and at DMR processing
I would accept them as material to a job. If you don't have the quality
module, you could always created a job as rework, then manually issue
the inventory to the job..



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:19 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Scrap





Looking for some help. We are currently using vantage 6.0.

Here is our situation, we ordered and received nine widgets, five of the
widgets were ordered to inventory the balance of the widgets we ordered
to a job. We need to re-work the 5 widgets that were received to
inventory. How in the world can that be accomplished? We need to capture
the re-work time but how is this done for an inventory item, also we
have not passed these in the system so they are still sitting in the
quality control department. Thanks in advance

Paul Smith
Inventory Management
233 Ballston Ave
Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
518-245-4358

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I am no production planner but have been playing with Job Entry a bit in
V8 trying to figure out a way to make scrap cumulative. We have
operations that produce scrap and subsequent operations that also
produce scrap. I need to make the scrap cumulative so the first
operation produces enough to account for it's scrap and all operation
scrap that occurs on operations after it. So if I need 100 finished
pieces and Op 10 has a 10% scrap rate, Vantage says I need to make 110
at Op10. However, Op 20 also has a scrap rate of 10%, so I need to
deliver 110 pieces to Op 20 so they can net 100 pieces. Vantage however
does not add the additional 10 to Op 10. Op 10 still says make 110 for
Op 10 which will leave me short if I have scrap at Op20. What am I
missing. Is there a way to get Vantage to figure this out?



Thanks

Todd Hofert



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Vantage has always been manual in this regard, and I assume they haven't
changed it between 8.00 and 8.03. I've always understood not having the
material scrap tied to the operation scrap--that wouldn't work for us, but
I've never understood why the operation scrap wasn't cumulative.

The scrap field is a bit tricky and it's hard to explain how it works.

When I'm training new people here I always decribe Vantage's scrap field as
"How much extra do I need to BUILD on this operation because I am going to
scrap it later?". It is NOT "How much am I going to SCRAP on this
operation?".

(Note that the build quantities listed on the traveler of 110 or 100, are
the number of GOOD parts to be built on that operation, not the total
number of parts you have to build including scrap. When the operator
records their quantities, they enter the number of good parts in the qty
field and the bad parts in the non-conforming or scrap fields.)

To do what you want, you would enter 20% on your material scrap rate.
Throwing away 10% on operation 10 is inferred. You would enter 10% on op 10
to build 110 parts to make sure you have the 10 you will be throwing away
on op 20. The scrap on operation 20 will be 0% if you are not scrapping
anything after op 20.

The traveler will look like this.


Op Scrap Good parts to build
10 10 110
20 0 100
30 0 100


But say you are throwing away 10% on operation 20 and 10% on operation 30.
Once again you would have 20% on your material scrap. You would enter 20%
scrap on op 10, 10% on operation 20 and 0% on operation 30.

You would then see on your traveler

Op Scrap Good parts to build
10 20 120
20 10 110
30 0 100


That's the way I've always understood it anyway. I may have been doing it
wrong all these years, but the math works out through the whole process.
Like I said, it's not easy to explain.

--
Amy O'Malley
8.00.811
Process Engineer
Synovis IS
omaLL004@...

On Apr 8 2007, Todd Hofert wrote:
So if I need 100 finished
>pieces and Op 10 has a 10% scrap rate, Vantage says I need to make 110
>at Op10. However, Op 20 also has a scrap rate of 10%, so I need to
>deliver 110 pieces to Op 20 so they can net 100 pieces. Vantage however
>does not add the additional 10 to Op 10. Op 10 still says make 110 for
>Op 10 which will leave me short if I have scrap at Op20. What am I
>missing. Is there a way to get Vantage to figure this out?
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Looking for some help. We are currently using vantage 6.0.


Here is our situation, we ordered and received nine widgets, five of the widgets were ordered to inventory the balance of the widgets we ordered to a job. We need to re-work the 5 widgets that were received to inventory. How in the world can that be accomplished? We need to capture the re-work time but how is this done for an inventory item, also we have not passed these in the system so they are still sitting in the quality control department. Thanks in advance



Paul Smith
Inventory Management
233 Ballston Ave
Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
518-245-4358



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