Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b

I have run into a brick wall at 90 mph - At this point I have no
solution for the problem encountered.
The Report Data Definition consists of 12 tables
My customization Imports all but the RptLinkField data.
The adapter GetNewRptLinkField Method takes 5 parameters (fields) the
Unique Primary Index on the table consists of 6 fields - The
underlying AddRow method in the IF takes 6 parameters(fields). When
the Update method checks the data a unique index error is thrown
because it is only checking the first five fields, and the 6th makes
the record unique.

I do not have the SDK available nor the source code to attempt to
resolve the parameter count mismatch between the AD and IF

This may be intentional or an oops, in any event it would require
someone to manually input all the link fields on a 'imported' report

If anyone cares to take this further contact me offlist and I will
send you what I have.

hairless in NY.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "bw2868bond" <bwalker@...> wrote:
>
> I have a form customization that exports and imports report data
> definitions about 99% done.
>
> It may not be the most elegant, but I will post in the files
section
> when complete - later tonight or tomorrow...
>
> bw
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@> wrote:
> >
> > We are using SQL, and just tested the Report Data Definition
> Export/Import tool and it works just fine for us. It has saved at
> least a day or more of work and report testing time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of randyduly
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:20 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
> 803.404b
> >
> >
> > The tool in the forum is for SQL database, not for the Progress
> > database.
> >
> > We have ask Epicor for this enhancement and they are well aware
that
> > there needs to be a tool or utility for saving off the report data
> > defintion. Yes, patches can affect your report data definition
> > because of changes Epicor makes to the database structure.
> >
> > Right now if you ask Epicor about this enhancemnet their answer is
> > that it is available in Epicor 9. Well most of us can't wait till
> > Epicor 9 and most of us will probably wait till other people try
out
> > Epicor 9 for a year before we just on the band wagon.
> >
> > I don't think that Epicor is even thinking about making a utility
> for
> > Vantage 8. That is my 2 cents worth.
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to
> > facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions,
but
> > I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share
> > some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]
On
> > Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
> > 803.404b
> > >
> > >
> > > As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to
> ask
> > > for a bit of clarification on this.
> > >
> > > My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is
how
> > > you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
> > > Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?
> > >
> > > If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
> > > changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one
DB
> to
> > > another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that
> form.
> > > Is that correct?
> > >
> > > If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations
to
> > > those documents that include changes to the Report Data
Definition
> > > then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the
> > changes
> > > to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
> > > upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches
also
> > > cause problems with these?
> > >
> > > Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to
> > export
> > > those and start an enhancement request?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian Stenglein
> > >
> > > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query
or
> BAQ
> > > > Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment
to
> a
> > > RDD
> > > > and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other
environment.
> > > >
> > > > I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but
the
> > > RDD's
> > > > involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
> > > oddities
> > > > initially. It was more time consuming to try and
export/import
> my
> > > RDDs
> > > > then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
> > > >
> > > > For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> > > > implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vic Drecchio
> > > > ERP Administrator
> > > >
> > > > TIMCO Aviation Services
> > > > Greensboro, NC
> > > > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > > > Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> > > > Mobile: 704.530.3092
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Ed Garbowski
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> > > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes -
> > 803.404b
> > > >
> > > > I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
> > > Definitions and
> > > > to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or
> export
> > > the
> > > > changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
> > > Vantage
> > > > upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL
> tables
> > > > beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to
> backup
> > > and
> > > > restore these report changes?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
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You
> > > must
> > > > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
> > > access. )
> > > > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> > > Builder
> > > > and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > > > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > > > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services
goto:
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I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data Definitions
and to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
the changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
Vantage upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL
tables beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to
backup and restore these report changes?
Thanks,
Ed
Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a RDD
and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.

I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the RDD's
involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some oddities
initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my RDDs
then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.

For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.



Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@...
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Garbowski
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b

I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data Definitions and
to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export the
changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or Vantage
upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup and
restore these report changes?
Thanks,
Ed


------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
Ugh, I always try to forget!

What I did with mine was screen shots of my new definitions with
notations all over them. Then I scanned them in for backup purposes
here. You have the .rpt file with the new definition, which of course
you backup anyway.

But usually if you have the db backed up this should not be an issue!
Just make sure you test your backups every so often!!!!!!!!!!!!



M. Manasa Reddy
manasa@...
P: 630-806-2000
F: 630-806-2001


________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vic Drecchio
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b



Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a RDD
and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.

I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the RDD's
involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some oddities
initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my RDDs
then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.

For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.

Vic Drecchio
ERP Administrator

TIMCO Aviation Services
Greensboro, NC
Email: vic.drecchio@... <mailto:vic.drecchio%40timco.aero>
Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
Mobile: 704.530.3092

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Ed Garbowski
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b

I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data Definitions and
to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export the
changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or Vantage
upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup and
restore these report changes?
Thanks,
Ed

------------------------------------

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo> ! Groups Links






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to ask
for a bit of clarification on this.

My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?

If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB to
another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that form.
Is that correct?

If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the changes
to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
cause problems with these?

Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to export
those and start an enhancement request?

Thanks,

Brian Stenglein



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...>
wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
> Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a
RDD
> and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
>
> I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
RDD's
> involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
oddities
> initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my
RDDs
> then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
>
> For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
>
>
>
> Vic Drecchio
> ERP Administrator
>
> TIMCO Aviation Services
> Greensboro, NC
> Email: vic.drecchio@...
> Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> Mobile: 704.530.3092
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Ed Garbowski
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b
>
> I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
Definitions and
> to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
the
> changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
Vantage
> upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
> beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup
and
> restore these report changes?
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions, but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.

Thanks,
Ed


________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b


As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to ask
for a bit of clarification on this.

My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?

If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB to
another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that form.
Is that correct?

If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the changes
to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
cause problems with these?

Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to export
those and start an enhancement request?

Thanks,

Brian Stenglein

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...>
wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
> Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a
RDD
> and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
>
> I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
RDD's
> involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
oddities
> initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my
RDDs
> then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
>
> For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
>
>
>
> Vic Drecchio
> ERP Administrator
>
> TIMCO Aviation Services
> Greensboro, NC
> Email: vic.drecchio@...
> Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> Mobile: 704.530.3092
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf
> Of Ed Garbowski
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b
>
> I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
Definitions and
> to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
the
> changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
Vantage
> upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
> beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup
and
> restore these report changes?
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>



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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The tool in the forum is for SQL database, not for the Progress
database.

We have ask Epicor for this enhancement and they are well aware that
there needs to be a tool or utility for saving off the report data
defintion. Yes, patches can affect your report data definition
because of changes Epicor makes to the database structure.

Right now if you ask Epicor about this enhancemnet their answer is
that it is available in Epicor 9. Well most of us can't wait till
Epicor 9 and most of us will probably wait till other people try out
Epicor 9 for a year before we just on the band wagon.

I don't think that Epicor is even thinking about making a utility for
Vantage 8. That is my 2 cents worth.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to
facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions, but
I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share
some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
>
>
> As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to ask
> for a bit of clarification on this.
>
> My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
> you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
> Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
> changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB to
> another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that form.
> Is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
> those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
> then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the
changes
> to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
> upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
> cause problems with these?
>
> Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to
export
> those and start an enhancement request?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Stenglein
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
> > Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a
> RDD
> > and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
> >
> > I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
> RDD's
> > involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
> oddities
> > initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my
> RDDs
> > then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
> >
> > For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> > implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vic Drecchio
> > ERP Administrator
> >
> > TIMCO Aviation Services
> > Greensboro, NC
> > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> > Mobile: 704.530.3092
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ed Garbowski
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
> >
> > I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
> Definitions and
> > to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
> the
> > changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
> Vantage
> > upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
> > beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup
> and
> > restore these report changes?
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
> must
> > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
> access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> Builder
> > and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
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We are using SQL, and just tested the Report Data Definition Export/Import tool and it works just fine for us. It has saved at least a day or more of work and report testing time.

Thanks,
Ed


________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of randyduly
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b


The tool in the forum is for SQL database, not for the Progress
database.

We have ask Epicor for this enhancement and they are well aware that
there needs to be a tool or utility for saving off the report data
defintion. Yes, patches can affect your report data definition
because of changes Epicor makes to the database structure.

Right now if you ask Epicor about this enhancemnet their answer is
that it is available in Epicor 9. Well most of us can't wait till
Epicor 9 and most of us will probably wait till other people try out
Epicor 9 for a year before we just on the band wagon.

I don't think that Epicor is even thinking about making a utility for
Vantage 8. That is my 2 cents worth.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to
facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions, but
I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share
some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
>
>
> As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to ask
> for a bit of clarification on this.
>
> My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
> you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
> Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
> changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB to
> another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that form.
> Is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
> those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
> then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the
changes
> to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
> upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
> cause problems with these?
>
> Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to
export
> those and start an enhancement request?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Stenglein
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
> > Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a
> RDD
> > and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
> >
> > I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
> RDD's
> > involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
> oddities
> > initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my
> RDDs
> > then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
> >
> > For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> > implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vic Drecchio
> > ERP Administrator
> >
> > TIMCO Aviation Services
> > Greensboro, NC
> > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> > Mobile: 704.530.3092
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ed Garbowski
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
> >
> > I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
> Definitions and
> > to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
> the
> > changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
> Vantage
> > upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
> > beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup
> and
> > restore these report changes?
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
> must
> > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
> access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> Builder
> > and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> The information contained in this message is intended solely for
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>
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I have a form customization that exports and imports report data
definitions about 99% done.

It may not be the most elegant, but I will post in the files section
when complete - later tonight or tomorrow...

bw

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> We are using SQL, and just tested the Report Data Definition
Export/Import tool and it works just fine for us. It has saved at
least a day or more of work and report testing time.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of randyduly
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:20 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
>
>
> The tool in the forum is for SQL database, not for the Progress
> database.
>
> We have ask Epicor for this enhancement and they are well aware that
> there needs to be a tool or utility for saving off the report data
> defintion. Yes, patches can affect your report data definition
> because of changes Epicor makes to the database structure.
>
> Right now if you ask Epicor about this enhancemnet their answer is
> that it is available in Epicor 9. Well most of us can't wait till
> Epicor 9 and most of us will probably wait till other people try out
> Epicor 9 for a year before we just on the band wagon.
>
> I don't think that Epicor is even thinking about making a utility
for
> Vantage 8. That is my 2 cents worth.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>,
Ed Garbowski <egarbowski@> wrote:
> >
> > There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to
> facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions, but
> I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share
> some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
> 803.404b
> >
> >
> > As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to
ask
> > for a bit of clarification on this.
> >
> > My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
> > you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
> > Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?
> >
> > If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
> > changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB
to
> > another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that
form.
> > Is that correct?
> >
> > If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
> > those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
> > then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the
> changes
> > to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
> > upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
> > cause problems with these?
> >
> > Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to
> export
> > those and start an enhancement request?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian Stenglein
> >
> > --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or
BAQ
> > > Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to
a
> > RDD
> > > and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
> > >
> > > I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
> > RDD's
> > > involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
> > oddities
> > > initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import
my
> > RDDs
> > > then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
> > >
> > > For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> > > implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vic Drecchio
> > > ERP Administrator
> > >
> > > TIMCO Aviation Services
> > > Greensboro, NC
> > > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > > Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> > > Mobile: 704.530.3092
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Ed Garbowski
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> > > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes -
> 803.404b
> > >
> > > I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
> > Definitions and
> > > to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or
export
> > the
> > > changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
> > Vantage
> > > upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL
tables
> > > beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to
backup
> > and
> > > restore these report changes?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
> > must
> > > have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable
> > access. )
> > > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> > Builder
> > > and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > The information contained in this message is intended solely for
> the individual to whom it is specifically and originally addressed.
> This message and its contents may contain confidential or privileged
> information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby
> notified that any disclosure or distribution, or taking any action
in
> reliance on the contents of this information, is strictly
prohibited.
> > We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting
> software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus
> checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability
> for any loss or damage caused by software viruses.
> >
> > This message (including any attachments) is intended only for
> > the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and
> > may contain information that is non-public, proprietary,
> > privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under
> > applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product.
> > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
> > that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this
> > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> > communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and
> > (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this
message
> > immediately if this is an electronic communication.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> The information contained in this message is intended solely for
the individual to whom it is specifically and originally addressed.
This message and its contents may contain confidential or privileged
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> We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting
software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus
checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability
for any loss or damage caused by software viruses.
>
> This message (including any attachments) is intended only for
> the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and
> may contain information that is non-public, proprietary,
> privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under
> applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified
> that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this
> communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
> communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and
> (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message
> immediately if this is an electronic communication.
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> Thank you.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
We are using SQL, and just tested the Report Data Definition Export/Import
tool and it works just fine for us. It has saved at least a day or more of
work and report testing time.

Thanks,
Ed

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
randyduly
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes - 803.404b

The tool in the forum is for SQL database, not for the Progress
database.

We have ask Epicor for this enhancement and they are well aware that
there needs to be a tool or utility for saving off the report data
defintion. Yes, patches can affect your report data definition
because of changes Epicor makes to the database structure.

Right now if you ask Epicor about this enhancemnet their answer is
that it is available in Epicor 9. Well most of us can't wait till
Epicor 9 and most of us will probably wait till other people try out
Epicor 9 for a year before we just on the band wagon.

I don't think that Epicor is even thinking about making a utility for
Vantage 8. That is my 2 cents worth.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, Ed
Garbowski <egarbowski@...> wrote:
>
> There is a tool in this Forum's file section that is supposed to
facilitate the export and import of the Report Data Definitions, but
I haven't had a chance to test it yet. If you try it, please share
some feedback on the tool and I'll do the same.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
Behalf Of Brian Stenglein
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
>
>
> As someone who is embarking on the upgrade journey, I'd like to ask
> for a bit of clarification on this.
>
> My limited understanding is that the Report Data Definition is how
> you can modify data going to the Crystal Forms like a Sales
> Acknowledgement or Job Traveler, is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then my understanding is that we can save the
> changes to the customized Crystal Forms and copy them from one DB to
> another, but not the changes to the data we are supplying that form.
> Is that correct?
>
> If that is true, then during testing if I build customizations to
> those documents that include changes to the Report Data Definition
> then during the go live weekend I would have to re-create the
changes
> to the Report Data Definition as they would be missing after I
> upgrade by 6.1 DB to 8.03.xxx. Is that correct? Will patches also
> cause problems with these?
>
> Has anyone asked Epicor if they could provide functionality to
export
> those and start an enhancement request?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Stenglein
>
> --- In
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com>, "Vic Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, no way to export like a dashboard, BAQ query or BAQ
> > Report. It's horrible when making changes in one environment to a
> RDD
> > and then you need to duplicate efforts in the other environment.
> >
> > I've moved report styles via the back end (SQL) before, but the
> RDD's
> > involved too many tables for me to worry about and I had some
> oddities
> > initially. It was more time consuming to try and export/import my
> RDDs
> > then to simply re-create them with my thorough documentation.
> >
> > For us ex-Epicorians on this list, this was a huge PITA during
> > implementations. Manasa -- I'm sure you remember.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vic Drecchio
> > ERP Administrator
> >
> > TIMCO Aviation Services
> > Greensboro, NC
> > Email: vic.drecchio@
> > Office: 336.668.4410 x3091
> > Mobile: 704.530.3092
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>]
On
> Behalf
> > Of Ed Garbowski
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:52 PM
> > To:
vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>

> > Subject: [Vantage] Saving report data definition changes -
803.404b
> >
> > I've made quite a few changes to a number of Report Data
> Definitions and
> > to the Report Styles and am searching for a way to save or export
> the
> > changes so they won't be lost in case of a database restore or
> Vantage
> > upgrade. All of the changes appear to be in a series of SQL tables
> > beginning with dbo.rpt.... . Is there a recommended way to backup
> and
> > restore these report changes?
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> >

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