Sales Order Job Wizard Creates All Operations With ONE Scheduling Block

Hi all you Epi geniuses out there. I am having an issue with some unexpected behavior in our E10 system. (10.2.700)

I have set the “Scheduling Blocks” field to a certain number greater than 1 on multiple different resource groups, and their corresponding operations in our system (Resource Group maintenance → Scheduling Blocks, and Operation Maintenance → Scheduling Blocks matching).

When I manually create/add an operation to a job in Job Entry, the system pulls in the default Scheduling Blocks value from the operation for the operation being created manually. This is good and this is how I expect / need the system to work.

However-- When we use the Order Job Wizard to create our jobs (which we do for all jobs in our system), I have noticed that all operations have their scheduling blocks set to ONE (1), even though it is set to a different value in the resource group and on the operation setup.

Is this just a bug? Or is there something I am missing regarding some kind of Order Job Wizard settings which control how the wizard behaves when creating jobs and operations?

My hope is that Epicor base functionality has a setting for this which will fix the issue and make my dreams come true, so that I can avoid having to do a customization to accomplish it.

The essence of what I need is for the Order Job Wizard to create operations with the # value of scheduling blocks pulled from the operation setup, not always just set to ONE (1).

Thanks for reading, it is much appreciated.

if you use the quick job entry program, does it do the same thing?

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Thanks for the response Tim. Yes, after testing creating a new job in Quick Job Entry I can confirm that the operations created have ONE scheduling block (instead of 12 in this case).

it seems to me that within the engineering workbench, you do not have the ability to specify the number of scheduling blocks.

(EDIT: I admit it… I was mistaken. Read the answer below posted by @rnewell - You DO have the ability to add scheduling blocks in the Engineering Workbench!).

That is something that only jobs have. So when the “get details” is done, it is retrieving the operations, and then the resources, but not doing it the same way as when you manually add an operation. I guess that this could be considered a missing feature… you could go to Epicor Ideas and submit a new Idea to see if you can get people to vote for it.

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Thanks Tim. That information is still helpful for me. Something I should also mention is that the majority of our production jobs (99+ %) are for “Parts on the fly”, which are not parts that actually exist in the part master, but the order line(s) are assigned to a ProdCode (product group). (Highly customized / unique products for each job). The methods on these Parts-On-The-Fly contain materials which are for real parts from the part master, and then obviously the operations in question here from my original post.

These jobs for part-on-the-fly are the sort of jobs we create from the order job wizard.

Correct me if I’m looking at the wrong issue but in my Engineering Workbench I use a field called scheduling blocks and this copies into my job as expected when I use the order job wizard. If you don’t get the method from the engineering workbench where are you pulling the methods from? A linked quote or templated quote or job?

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I saw the scheduling blocks field in the Engineering Workbench as well. That’s all well and good-- however the jobs in question are not originating from this workbench. Our jobs originate from a Linked Quote. I could not find scheduling blocks on the Quote Opers but I will take another look.

The field is on the quote, we use it this way a lot and I can confirm that it does come into the job.

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I (mistakenly) looked in SQL and not in Epicor for this on the quote oper and didn’t see the field I expected. This looks like it will solve our problem if I can get that field to create with the proper value. Thank you Ron-- your input is much appreciated sir.

In sql the field is actually “MAchines”, this is why I didn’t find it. My mistake.

one more edit-- the reason ours are being created with 1 is because we have a customized program that creates the quotes externally from epicor, and the quotes are created entirely with C# from a separate manufacturing software. This has identified my problem perfectly and I will get to work on solving it! THANK YOU!