Return to Vendor 6.1.530

Larry,

In 6.1 you can set up global alerts that warn various
departments/people (via check boxes) when an action is taken on the
DMR. This feature works well at MSM. The Non-Conformance /
Inspection Processing generates the DMR; sending an email to
purchasing and quality administrator. QA sends DMR copy to supplier
as for corrective action and Purchasing decides to Debit or not;
sending an email to A/P who reviews and pulls in the Debit Memo and
print a form that we have created that can be sent to supplier to
offset the $ of the original invoice) or A/P does nothing if there is
no debit required. We also re-open the PO line if it is closed and
add pcs.

A word of caution when generating a SUBCONTRACT DMR that was created
by a non-conformance.....costs to the job are extremely INACCURATE.
5.2 has similar problems.

MSM has disabled its non-conformace mod while we have Epicor's
custom programming department develop a solution.

HTH,

Jill Pleau
Mid-State Machine Products

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Larry Barriere <larrybarriere@...>
wrote:
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before
the items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@...
> W 603-626-3160
>
>
>
>
>
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We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
1, Purchase depart create a PO
2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the items get inspected. I know internal problem)
3, QA reject the items.
Now how do you proceed?
Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know that it has been received.
We still need the items.
Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we really didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
How does account payable know when to pay for the items?

Larry Barriere
barriere@...
W 603-626-3160




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Hi Larry!



Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a part
of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.

We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap" which is
basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace the
bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results of
the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched to an
invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.



For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting better
but sometimes you have to train.



Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Barriere
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530



We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
1, Purchase depart create a PO
2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
items get inspected. I know internal problem)
3, QA reject the items.
Now how do you proceed?
Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know that
it has been received.
We still need the items.
Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we really
didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
How does account payable know when to pay for the items?

Larry Barriere
barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
W 603-626-3160

__________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.



Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they could be
set up to send alerts?



When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit until
the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by completed?



Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of bpbuechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530



All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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They could be set up to send alerts. In the vanilla app they do nothing
and are configurable as to what they represent by way of the company
config.



Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com







From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530



Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.

Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they could be
set up to send alerts?

When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit until
the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by completed?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of bpbuechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Just took a peek in the company config for 8.03 but didn't see anything
for the checkboxes on the DMR Processing screen.

What tab are they on?



Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530



They could be set up to send alerts. In the vanilla app they do nothing
and are configurable as to what they represent by way of the company
config.

Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.

Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they could be
set up to send alerts?

When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit until
the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by completed?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of bpbuechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Global Alerts is what you use to activate the notification when the
checkbox is enabled.

The AP person holds off from processing until a Misc Shipment record
has been processed against the DMR the Debit Memo is for. As
recommended, a quick dashboard is what is reviewed (weekly & EOM).

Thanks
Patty Buechler
--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Just took a peek in the company config for 8.03 but didn't see
anything
> for the checkboxes on the DMR Processing screen.
>
> What tab are they on?
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Charlie Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:37 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> They could be set up to send alerts. In the vanilla app they do
nothing
> and are configurable as to what they represent by way of the company
> config.
>
> Charlie Smith
>
> Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC
>
> www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
> www.2WTech.com
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%
40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Joe Rojas
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:03 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
> Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.
>
> Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they
could be
> set up to send alerts?
>
> When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit
until
> the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by
completed?
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of bpbuechler
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
> All;
>
> I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
> the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
> other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
> At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.
>
> However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and
we
> handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
> identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.
>
> So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
> submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
> holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has
been
> completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
> BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Patty Buechler
> UV Color, Inc.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
> Rojas" <jrojas@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Larry!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be
a
> part
> > of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
> >
> > We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
> which is
> > basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> > reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> > create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to
replace
> the
> > bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as
a
> > vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the
results
> of
> > the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is
eventually
> > rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
> to an
> > invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if
the
> > vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
> >
> >
> >
> > For the most part this process works well but there are still
issues
> > where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> > reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
> better
> > but sometimes you have to train.
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe Rojas
> >
> > Information Technology Manager
> >
> > Symmetry Medical TNCO
> >
> > 15 Colebrook Blvd
> >
> > Whitman MA 02382
> >
> > 781.447.6661 x7506
> >
> >
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Larry Barriere
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
> >
> >
> >
> > We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> > 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> > 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> > 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before
the
> > items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> > 3, QA reject the items.
> > Now how do you proceed?
> > Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They
know
> that
> > it has been received.
> > We still need the items.
> > Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
> really
> > didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> > Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> > How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
> >
> > Larry Barriere
> > barriere@ <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> > W 603-626-3160
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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>
Sorry not in config. Those are for jobs. The DMR checkoffs require
customization. See the DMR help for more info.





From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530



Just took a peek in the company config for 8.03 but didn't see anything
for the checkboxes on the DMR Processing screen.

What tab are they on?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

They could be set up to send alerts. In the vanilla app they do nothing
and are configurable as to what they represent by way of the company
config.

Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.

Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they could be
set up to send alerts?

When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit until
the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by completed?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of bpbuechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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App: DMR Processing
Primary Tab: Header
SubTab: Details

A "Check Offs" section appears on the right side of this Tab.

Joe Rojas <jrojas@...> wrote:
Just took a peek in the company config for 8.03 but didn't see anything
for the checkboxes on the DMR Processing screen.

What tab are they on?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Charlie Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:37 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

They could be set up to send alerts. In the vanilla app they do nothing
and are configurable as to what they represent by way of the company
config.

Charlie Smith

Smith Business Services / 2W Technologies LLC

www.vistaconsultant.com <http://www.vistaconsultant.com/> /
www.2WTech.com

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Joe Rojas
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:03 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

Interesting. Just a couple of follow up questions.

Are you saying that the checkboxes DO send alerts or that they could be
set up to send alerts?

When you say "the AP person holds off from processing the Debit until
the Misc Shipment has been completed", what do you mean by completed?

Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781.447.6661 x7506

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of bpbuechler
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:06 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Return to Vendor 6.1.530

All;

I am not sure about 6.1 but in 8.0 and 8.03 there are checkboxes in
the DMR Header that allow you to notify the Purchasing Dept (or any
other related departments) when material has been rejected from QA.
At which time you can flag the DMR for a Debit Memo Request.

However, our busines scenario also requires Return to Vendor..and we
handle this by doing a Miscellaneous Shipment Entry. You can
identify (tie) the DMR # to the Misc Shipment.

So if the DMR has been rejected and a Debit Memo Request has been
submitted with comments noting the debit is a RTV, the AP person
holds off from processing the Debit until the Misc Shipment has been
completed. You can handle the inquiry by building a simple
BAQ/Dashboard that brings in the Misc Shipment details.

Hope this helps.
Patty Buechler
UV Color, Inc.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Joe
Rojas" <jrojas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Larry!
>
>
>
> Sounds like 6.1 and 8.03 have a similar issue. There seems to be a
part
> of the process "missing" from Vantage to handle RTVs.
>
> We had to resort to an external process to deal with this "gap"
which is
> basically the inspection department is required to communicate all
> reject issues so that A/P and purchasing can react. Our buyer will
> create a new line on the PO if more parts are coming in to replace
the
> bad ones. If it is a RTV for rework, then we keep the DMR open as a
> vehicle to record the status of where the parts are and the results
of
> the rework. As for A/P, we have found that if receipt is eventually
> rejected on a DMR then the receipt is not available to be matched
to an
> invoice. This alerts the finance person to research the issue if the
> vendor still tries to invoice us for bad parts.
>
>
>
> For the most part this process works well but there are still issues
> where someone in inspection will return the parts to the vendor or
> reject the parts on a DMR and never let anyone know. It's getting
better
> but sometimes you have to train.
>
>
>
> Joe Rojas
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Symmetry Medical TNCO
>
> 15 Colebrook Blvd
>
> Whitman MA 02382
>
> 781.447.6661 x7506
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Barriere
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Vantage] Return to Vendor 6.1.530
>
>
>
> We need to know how everyone is doing a return to vendor.
> 1, Purchase depart create a PO
> 2, Shipping Receiving receive the PO Line to a inspection area
> 3, QA inspect the items. (We sometime take a week or more before the
> items get inspected. I know internal problem)
> 3, QA reject the items.
> Now how do you proceed?
> Purchasing doesn't know that the items has been rejected. They know
that
> it has been received.
> We still need the items.
> Can the purchasing department reopen the original line since we
really
> didn't receive the items (we rejected them)
> Should the purchasing department create a new PO or line?
> How does account payable know when to pay for the items?
>
> Larry Barriere
> barriere@... <mailto:barriere%40polyvac.com>
> W 603-626-3160
>
> __________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
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