You might want to check out EvDO ( Evolution Data Only ) from Verizon ...
National wireless connections via cell phone infrastructure.
300 kbps to 600 kbps throughput at the low end to 2.4 mbps at the high end.
Verizon is supposed to EvDO rolled out in it's top 30 markets by the end of
the summer.
This would make be forget about WiFi hotspots. With this service I can give
laptops to my outside salespeople and have them on live Internet anywhere
their cellphones work.
Toss in a VPN link back to home base and MS-WTS and you have live Vantage in
a customer's office.
......... Ok, I'll admit it, I just read an article about this about 15
minutes ago .....
Todd Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:53 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Weren't there some folks here using VNC (sort of like PC Anywhere) via cable
modem or DSL (or hotel high-speed internet) to connect via a VPN like
connection? I need to do something similar for a new sales rep as well as
provide myself a way to work from at home and have been contemplating this.
My attempts at pure VPN tunneling thru our firewall all failed.
As far as wireless...that's just one way to connect. Basically sort of high
speed internet service via a cellular phone type connection (or was the
intention 802.11G type via hot spots like Stabucks or airports?). With most
hotels having high speed internet (for a price) it might still be less
expensive than cellular internet access. But Internet access is only half
the battle, the rest is the IP routing stuff to connect securely (and
privately) to your internal network. I would be very interested to know if
VNC handles this and how hard it is to set up.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle @ Advance [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Thanks for responding Aaron. Well to start off with I am only on 5.0.
Also, I am not sure that wireless is what I am wanting - I dont really
know a whole lot about this. All I know is that the owner wants a connection
set up so that our new salesman can connect to vantage on the road.
I am running NT 4.0 on the server, NT4.0 on a few workstations, and
XP on the rest of them.
So any ideas you can throw my way would be great.
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering Corp.
Phone: 630-628-3445
Fax: 630-628-3449
-------Original Message-------
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:38:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Depending on your Vantage version, 6.1 has the ability to have
"disconnected sales persons". They take a mini version of the database
with them, and sync when they are in the office. You might want to
consider that as an option.
If 6.1 is not an option, you can use terminal server with remote users.
If you only have one, you might consider having an XP box do the
terminal services bit so they can use Vantage.
There are several options, but I would question why you were thinking
wireless?
If you only have DSL currently, you will not be able to run Vantage from
the outside through that connection directly, that would be the reason
for terminal services.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle @ Advance [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
No, we have a dsl line coming in.
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering Corp.
Phone: 630-628-3445
Fax: 630-628-3449
-------Original Message-------
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:41:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Are you using a wireless connection now at your office to get out to the
internet?
-----Original Message-----
From: shells_v [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
We are looking at hiring a new outside salesman who we would want to
give certain access to vantage while on the road. I really know
nothing about connecting wirelessly to vantage. Can anyone tell me
what I would be looking at/needing as far as software/hardware.
I am running NT server 4.0 if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering
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National wireless connections via cell phone infrastructure.
300 kbps to 600 kbps throughput at the low end to 2.4 mbps at the high end.
Verizon is supposed to EvDO rolled out in it's top 30 markets by the end of
the summer.
This would make be forget about WiFi hotspots. With this service I can give
laptops to my outside salespeople and have them on live Internet anywhere
their cellphones work.
Toss in a VPN link back to home base and MS-WTS and you have live Vantage in
a customer's office.
......... Ok, I'll admit it, I just read an article about this about 15
minutes ago .....
Todd Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:53 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Weren't there some folks here using VNC (sort of like PC Anywhere) via cable
modem or DSL (or hotel high-speed internet) to connect via a VPN like
connection? I need to do something similar for a new sales rep as well as
provide myself a way to work from at home and have been contemplating this.
My attempts at pure VPN tunneling thru our firewall all failed.
As far as wireless...that's just one way to connect. Basically sort of high
speed internet service via a cellular phone type connection (or was the
intention 802.11G type via hot spots like Stabucks or airports?). With most
hotels having high speed internet (for a price) it might still be less
expensive than cellular internet access. But Internet access is only half
the battle, the rest is the IP routing stuff to connect securely (and
privately) to your internal network. I would be very interested to know if
VNC handles this and how hard it is to set up.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle @ Advance [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Thanks for responding Aaron. Well to start off with I am only on 5.0.
Also, I am not sure that wireless is what I am wanting - I dont really
know a whole lot about this. All I know is that the owner wants a connection
set up so that our new salesman can connect to vantage on the road.
I am running NT 4.0 on the server, NT4.0 on a few workstations, and
XP on the rest of them.
So any ideas you can throw my way would be great.
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering Corp.
Phone: 630-628-3445
Fax: 630-628-3449
-------Original Message-------
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:38:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Depending on your Vantage version, 6.1 has the ability to have
"disconnected sales persons". They take a mini version of the database
with them, and sync when they are in the office. You might want to
consider that as an option.
If 6.1 is not an option, you can use terminal server with remote users.
If you only have one, you might consider having an XP box do the
terminal services bit so they can use Vantage.
There are several options, but I would question why you were thinking
wireless?
If you only have DSL currently, you will not be able to run Vantage from
the outside through that connection directly, that would be the reason
for terminal services.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michelle @ Advance [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
No, we have a dsl line coming in.
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering Corp.
Phone: 630-628-3445
Fax: 630-628-3449
-------Original Message-------
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:41:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
Are you using a wireless connection now at your office to get out to the
internet?
-----Original Message-----
From: shells_v [mailto:mevb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:20 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT: WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY
We are looking at hiring a new outside salesman who we would want to
give certain access to vantage while on the road. I really know
nothing about connecting wirelessly to vantage. Can anyone tell me
what I would be looking at/needing as far as software/hardware.
I am running NT server 4.0 if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Michelle V.
Office Manager
Advance Engineering
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links>
Yahoo! Groups Links
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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