[OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

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Good point. I will let people suffer a bit until he "cries Uncle".
I have gotten the built in disclaimer working...but like the Exclaimer version better so it's a stop gap until Sept.
-Todd C.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Claggett
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:20 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering


Todd,

I know budget is limited, but one thing you forgot to put in your
equation is how much of your time is spent dealing with/managing the
SPAM software, problems, etc. The Exchange server has good filtering for
free, but you are always having to add new IP addresses, and keep up
with the latest attacks. If you receive 200 SPAM emails a day, you would
have to go through each one to make sure you don't miss one...and then
the president would have to do the same thing, and on down the line. The
amount of productivity lost - IMO - is roughly the same, if not more, of
what it would take for a 3rd party software or service to manage this
for you.

Beating a dead horse now :-).

Let us know how it turns out.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...<mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:15 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering

I've spent an average of $50/year using ORF and was very happy with it.
I've blown the entire IT budget for the year on Exchange 2007 and a SAN
system. Our President is extremely touchy about month-to-month
expenditures. So I am pretty much stuck with either ORF stepping up and
accommodating Ex2k7 or using the in-built features of it and Outlook
2003.. Unless I can find another cheap gateway piece of software.

This morning I have had well over 100 spam messages in my inbox after
averaging 8 per day for the past couple years. I am at home on 1/2 day
vacation but when I get to the office I may be greeted with a noose.

Thanks,
-Todd C.

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Behalf Of Jason Claggett
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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering

Todd,

Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:

How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!

Just my 2cents worth.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...<mailto:jason%402wtech.com> <mailto:jason%402wtech.com> <mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

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Of Todd Caughey
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Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007? What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.


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Exchange 2003 sp2 has the inteligent mail filter built in and it works great, I have it set to reject all message with a spam score of 6 or higher and to direct any message with a score of five to the clients junk email folder.
Just prior to configuring it, my users were averaging between 10 and 50 junk mails per day, now they all get between 1 and 3.

I don't have 2007, but I'd be willing to bet that it has the IMF built in.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wed 5/23/2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering



Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007? What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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The spam filtering in Exchange 2K7 is done at the 'edge transport'
which is a seperate machine that cannot be part of the domain - from
what I have read anyway.

We are running 2K7 but do not have the 'edge transport' piece running

bw

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Gerard Wadman" <gwadman@...> wrote:
>
> Exchange 2003 sp2 has the inteligent mail filter built in and it
works great, I have it set to reject all message with a spam score of
6 or higher and to direct any message with a score of five to the
clients junk email folder.
> Just prior to configuring it, my users were averaging between 10
and 50 junk mails per day, now they all get between 1 and 3.
>
> I don't have 2007, but I'd be willing to bet that it has the IMF
built in.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Todd Caughey
> Sent: Wed 5/23/2007 5:33 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering
>
>
>
> Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not
64bit compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise
System but that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's
in favor of Windows Mobile Synch.
>
> Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange
2007? What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?
>
> How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I
have really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective.
We have Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop
the junk at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement
filteirng in the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.
>
> Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Todd,



Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:



How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!



Just my 2cents worth.



Thanks,



Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering



Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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I also use Postini.

Very nice product. I personally would never go back to an in-house
solution.



Joe Rojas

Information Technology Manager

Symmetry Medical TNCO

15 Colebrook Blvd

Whitman MA 02382

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jason Claggett
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering



Todd,

Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:

How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!

Just my 2cents worth.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@... <mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com> '
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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I would agree with Jason.

I too use a 3rd party, AppRiver, to filter spam. Not only are they
filtering 97% (about 17000 emails in 24 hours) of all spam bound for
my domain, but I dont see all of that spam clogging the pipe to my
email server.

for what it is worth...

Jeff



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Jason Claggett" <jason@...> wrote:
>
> Todd,
>
>
>
> Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:
>
>
>
> How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
> suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this
for
> you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to
keep
> the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
> Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
> everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
> server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only
listen
> for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from
your
> server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when
you can
> stop them at that street!
>
>
>
> Just my 2cents worth.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jason Claggett
>
> Microsoft Small Business Specialist
>
> MCP #3856159
>
> 2W Technologies, LLC
>
> 317.578.2393
>
> jason@...
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Todd Caughey
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering
>
>
>
> Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
> software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not
64bit
> compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System
but
> that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
> Windows Mobile Synch.
>
> Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange
2007?
> What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?
>
> How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I
have
> really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We
have
> Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the
junk
> at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement
filteirng in
> the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.
>
> Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Todd Caughey
> Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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I double this recommendation.



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jason Claggett
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering



Todd,

Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:

How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!

Just my 2cents worth.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@... <mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com> '
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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I've spent an average of $50/year using ORF and was very happy with it. I've blown the entire IT budget for the year on Exchange 2007 and a SAN system. Our President is extremely touchy about month-to-month expenditures. So I am pretty much stuck with either ORF stepping up and accommodating Ex2k7 or using the in-built features of it and Outlook 2003.. Unless I can find another cheap gateway piece of software.

This morning I have had well over 100 spam messages in my inbox after averaging 8 per day for the past couple years. I am at home on 1/2 day vacation but when I get to the office I may be greeted with a noose.

Thanks,
-Todd C.


________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Claggett
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering


Todd,

Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:

How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!

Just my 2cents worth.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...<mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>'
Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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Todd, there are ump-teen articles on the web about creating event sinks in exchange environments which can be used for your disclaimers.
Also, I use the built in IMF and I have really reduced junk mail. It is not perfect, but for free, it is decent. Make sure, however, that you implement the recipient filtering AND tar pitting. I found a lot of goofy load on the server from some recent attacks that was almost completely stopped by tar pitting.

Carey


To: vantage@yahoogroups.comFrom: caugheyt@...: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:33:04 -0500Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering




Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of Windows Mobile Synch.Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007? What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much appreciated.Thanks,Todd CaugheyHarvey Vogel Mfg. Co.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Todd,



I know budget is limited, but one thing you forgot to put in your
equation is how much of your time is spent dealing with/managing the
SPAM software, problems, etc. The Exchange server has good filtering for
free, but you are always having to add new IP addresses, and keep up
with the latest attacks. If you receive 200 SPAM emails a day, you would
have to go through each one to make sure you don't miss one...and then
the president would have to do the same thing, and on down the line. The
amount of productivity lost - IMO - is roughly the same, if not more, of
what it would take for a 3rd party software or service to manage this
for you.



Beating a dead horse now :-).



Let us know how it turns out.



Thanks,



Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@...

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:15 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering



I've spent an average of $50/year using ORF and was very happy with it.
I've blown the entire IT budget for the year on Exchange 2007 and a SAN
system. Our President is extremely touchy about month-to-month
expenditures. So I am pretty much stuck with either ORF stepping up and
accommodating Ex2k7 or using the in-built features of it and Outlook
2003.. Unless I can find another cheap gateway piece of software.

This morning I have had well over 100 spam messages in my inbox after
averaging 8 per day for the past couple years. I am at home on 1/2 day
vacation but when I get to the office I may be greeted with a noose.

Thanks,
-Todd C.

________________________________
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Jason Claggett
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:34 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam
filtering

Todd,

Haven't yet dealt with Exchange 2k7...but here's my opinion on SPAM:

How much do you spend a year on SPAM filtering software/hardware. My
suggestion would be find a third party source that can handle this for
you. If you have enough users, most of them will work you a deal to keep
the price reasonable. Our company and most of our customers use
Postini...it does all the filtering for SPAM, Viruses and keeps
everything up-to-date and just passes it through to your Exchange
server. You can at this point set your Exchange server to only listen
for their range of IP address keeping unwanted traffic away from your
server, router, etc...why let them knock at the front door, when you can
stop them at that street!

Just my 2cents worth.

Thanks,

Jason Claggett

Microsoft Small Business Specialist

MCP #3856159

2W Technologies, LLC

317.578.2393

jason@... <mailto:jason%402wtech.com> <mailto:jason%402wtech.com>

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Of Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:33 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [Vantage] [OT] Exchange 2007....disclaimers & spam filtering

Converted to Exchange 2007 yesterday. It broke my email disclaimer
software (Exclaimer) and spam filtering (ORF) because they are not 64bit
compatible. For that matter also broke Blackberry Enterprise System but
that's a different situation...we will drop Blackberry's in favor of
Windows Mobile Synch.

Is anyone out there using something for disclaimers for Exchange 2007?
What about the built-in capability? Does that work OK?

How about spam filtering at the server level for Exchange 2007? I have
really liked ORF...not only very cheap but also very effective. We have
Outlook 2003 now and it has some filtering but I want to stop the junk
at the server. Though I may go a step further and implement filteirng in
the SonicWall firewall if it is not too costly.

Opinions on dealing with Exchange 2007 & 64bit are would be much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.

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