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I didn't want to use Ghost because of the cost, I found DiskImage XML, an
open source (Freeware) solution.
You will need to create a Windows PE Disk, Bart PE, google for it and then
use Sysprep as others have mentioned.
Cost =$0.0 : Time saved =$Priceless.

One link I found for it is http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm
<http://www.runtime.org/dixml.htm>

Jim

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Cliff Drumeller
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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging



People
You sysprep the original computer that you make the image from. The
when you fire up the imaged computer the first time it requests the
Microsoft 25 character code. Sysprep was made for just this thing. SID's
are then not an issue.

Cliff

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging

It has been a couple years since I used Ghost but the process required
was.

* Take PC off network

* Install Ghost Image

* Rename Computer

* Place back on network.

* The computers were all different brands and models. So it was
then required to get all of the correct hardware drivers, including the
customary re-boot for each driver.

The new Ghost might be better. It took about 1 hour per computer and
was much better than installing all software from scratch.

I have never used it but I believe the company that created
PartitionMagic also has Image Copy software.

Hope this helps,

Dale

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging

John,

There are SID issues with ghgosting machines, but there is a product
called "Ghost Walker" (I think they still call it that) that will go
thru and change the SIDs.

As far as licensing goes, you pay for the number of PCs that will
connect to the ghost "server" at one time. It doesnt matter how many
times you use the image.

Hope that helps
Jeff

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> Hi to everyone,
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> Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.
>
> If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?
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> Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.
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> Thanks,
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> John Mansfield
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> General Sheet Metal
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Hello,



We are getting ready to purchase some computers to put on the shop floor
to run MES/Data Collection (V8).

The computers will all be identical and I would like to create a disk
image for ease of recovery in the event of a system failure.



Is anyone doing something similar and if so, what imaging software are
you using?





Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@...



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Joe,

for what is is worth............I have used Norton Ghost. It can be
centrally managed which is nice when you need to put the image back on
a computer that needs to be rebuilt. I am not sure what the price is.
You can usually "build" a computer in about 20 minutes.

Jeff
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Ghost, now owned by Symantec will make life easy. I used to set up
networks at auto dealerships and I would need 30 to 100 alike computers.
Make a master. Store the image and blast the image onto the new
computers in like 20 min each. Course we did it eight computers at a
time from a dedicated server.

Cliff Drumeller
IT Manager
Mass Precision Sheetmetal, Inc.
408 954 0200 ex 348
408 314 7420 cell

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Subject: [Vantage] OT: Disk Imaging



Hello,

We are getting ready to purchase some computers to put on the shop floor
to run MES/Data Collection (V8).

The computers will all be identical and I would like to create a disk
image for ease of recovery in the event of a system failure.

Is anyone doing something similar and if so, what imaging software are
you using?

Thanks,

Joe Rojas

IT Manager

TNCO, Inc.

781-447-6661 x7506

jrojas@... <mailto:jrojas%40tnco-inc.com>

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Hi to everyone,



Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.

If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?

Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.



Thanks,



John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal







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John,

There are SID issues with ghgosting machines, but there is a product
called "Ghost Walker" (I think they still call it that) that will go
thru and change the SIDs.

As far as licensing goes, you pay for the number of PCs that will
connect to the ghost "server" at one time. It doesnt matter how many
times you use the image.

Hope that helps
Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "John Mansfield" <johnm@...> wrote:
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> Hi to everyone,
>
>
>
> Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.
>
> If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?
>
> Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> John Mansfield
>
> General Sheet Metal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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John,

Windows has a sysprep function to deal with SIDs. I think you need a
ghost license for every PC you intend to ghost.

Jeff

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging



John,

There are SID issues with ghgosting machines, but there is a product
called "Ghost Walker" (I think they still call it that) that will go
thru and change the SIDs.

As far as licensing goes, you pay for the number of PCs that will
connect to the ghost "server" at one time. It doesnt matter how many
times you use the image.

Hope that helps
Jeff

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"John Mansfield" <johnm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to everyone,
>
>
>
> Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.
>
> If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?
>
> Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> John Mansfield
>
> General Sheet Metal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Jeff,



If you make multiple images, don't they phone home.

And wouldn't there be a Microsoft issue.



I would like to learn more about "Ghost Walker".

I assume I can Google it .



Thanks for your input,



John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal







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It has been a couple years since I used Ghost but the process required
was.



* Take PC off network

* Install Ghost Image

* Rename Computer

* Place back on network.

* The computers were all different brands and models. So it was
then required to get all of the correct hardware drivers, including the
customary re-boot for each driver.



The new Ghost might be better. It took about 1 hour per computer and
was much better than installing all software from scratch.



I have never used it but I believe the company that created
PartitionMagic also has Image Copy software.



Hope this helps,



Dale







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Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging



John,

There are SID issues with ghgosting machines, but there is a product
called "Ghost Walker" (I think they still call it that) that will go
thru and change the SIDs.

As far as licensing goes, you pay for the number of PCs that will
connect to the ghost "server" at one time. It doesnt matter how many
times you use the image.

Hope that helps
Jeff

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"John Mansfield" <johnm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to everyone,
>
>
>
> Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.
>
> If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?
>
> Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> John Mansfield
>
> General Sheet Metal
>
>




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Joe:
For what its worth, Terminal Server and Citrix thin client terminals
are perfect for data collection and manufacturing area stations. You
definately will reduce your time dealing with PC maintenance issues.
There are also several touch screen and barcode thin clients available
as well.
Terminal Server and Citrix are great solutions throughout the
corporate office as well. You must definately understand the
limitations of thin client computing, but if it is deployed properly
it definately reduces your Cost of Ownership and frees you up to work
on other projects. TS and Citrix also are perfect for remote
connectivity and multi-plant situations as well.

Jeff Bronson
Infinity Business Consulting
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To handle the SID issue, remove the PC from the domain and run the
sysprep utility before creating your image, it will erase the SID and
launch a mini setup prompting you for a machine name and if you wish to
join a domain.



You can use Walker which comes with Ghost but sysprep is better IMO.



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Subject: RE: [Vantage] OT: Disk Imaging



Hi to everyone,

Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.

If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?

Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.

Thanks,

John Mansfield

General Sheet Metal

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People
You sysprep the original computer that you make the image from. The
when you fire up the imaged computer the first time it requests the
Microsoft 25 character code. Sysprep was made for just this thing. SID's
are then not an issue.

Cliff

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dale Schuerman
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging



It has been a couple years since I used Ghost but the process required
was.

* Take PC off network

* Install Ghost Image

* Rename Computer

* Place back on network.

* The computers were all different brands and models. So it was
then required to get all of the correct hardware drivers, including the
customary re-boot for each driver.

The new Ghost might be better. It took about 1 hour per computer and
was much better than installing all software from scratch.

I have never used it but I believe the company that created
PartitionMagic also has Image Copy software.

Hope this helps,

Dale

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of maurojm
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: OT: Disk Imaging

John,

There are SID issues with ghgosting machines, but there is a product
called "Ghost Walker" (I think they still call it that) that will go
thru and change the SIDs.

As far as licensing goes, you pay for the number of PCs that will
connect to the ghost "server" at one time. It doesnt matter how many
times you use the image.

Hope that helps
Jeff

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"John Mansfield" <johnm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi to everyone,
>
>
>
> Sorry I am naive but what about license issues.
>
> If you use the same image for X number of computers what happens?
>
> Don't you run into issues with the SID etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> John Mansfield
>
> General Sheet Metal
>
>

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