OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6

We're using 2 access points to cover about 60,000 SqFt. All but one user station is in an
office area of 20,000 sqft.

Data rate for the wireless is 10mb/s.

We're using CAT5 and not fiber-optic cable. All runs terminate in the IT room (no intermediate
switches) and longest run is about 180 ft.

Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



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What is the distance for your cabling? Are you running fiber optic at all?
I had a problem with work stations way in the back of my shop and I ended up
replacing my switches that I connect via fiber optic cables to my server, my
startup time when from 1 to 2 minutes to about 15 to 20 seconds. How old
are your workstations?



Chris Stover

Business Control Engineer

Deaver Industries

205-426-4309 Voice

205-426-4364 Fax

cstover@...

www.deaverind.com



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carl.heeder@...
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6




Curious We run 6.00 with a cabled and wireless environment. Vantage will
time out before it
will actually start when we try to use it on wireless.

But we have very long delays in our Vantage starting up on a client machine
( 40 sec to 2 min).
Maybe our problem is the installation.
Also we cannot run Vantage over VPN - to use VPN we must use Remote Desktop
and actually
runnVantage on a local machine.

Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057




"Dave Miller"

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05/05/2005 07:29

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We currently run Vantage 6.10 on several wireless workstations without any
issues. If you are
going to do this a site survey must be done to evaluate your environment,
the number of access
points required, etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: carl.heeder@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"

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I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless
equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your
building. The
cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked
your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports
and
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB
Check out Cyberguys.com


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of amfabllc
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
I should have been more specific - I am looking for the difference
in quality and warranty.
Thank you,
Ann


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Calvin Dekker" <calvin@m...> wrote:
> Check out Cyberguys.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf
> Of amfabllc
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6
>
>
> We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
> the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
> comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
> Thanks!
> Ann Rohyans
> AMFAB
>
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
> Yahoo! Groups Links
I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless equipment declining it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your building. The cable itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"
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I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your building. The cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked
your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked your
email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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We currently run Vantage 6.10 on several wireless workstations without any issues. If you are going to do this a site survey must be done to evaluate your environment, the number of access points required, etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: carl.heeder@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"
<dave.miller2@com To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cast.net> cc:
Sent by: Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6
vantage@yahoogrou
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05/04/2005 02:48
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vantage






I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your building. The cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked
your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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Curious We run 6.00 with a cabled and wireless environment. Vantage will time out before it
will actually start when we try to use it on wireless.

But we have very long delays in our Vantage starting up on a client machine ( 40 sec to 2 min).
Maybe our problem is the installation.
Also we cannot run Vantage over VPN - to use VPN we must use Remote Desktop and actually
runnVantage on a local machine.

Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"
<dave.miller2@com To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>
cast.net> cc:
Sent by: Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6
vantage@yahoogrou
ps.com


05/05/2005 07:29
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vantage






We currently run Vantage 6.10 on several wireless workstations without any issues. If you are
going to do this a site survey must be done to evaluate your environment, the number of access
points required, etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: carl.heeder@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"

<dave.miller2@com To: <vantage@yahoogroups.com>

cast.net> cc:

Sent by: Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable
brands-Cat6
vantage@yahoogrou

ps.com



05/04/2005 02:48

PM

Please respond to

vantage







I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your building. The
cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked
your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports
and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links



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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked
your
email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have already linked
your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and Crystal Reports and
other 'goodies', please goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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How many access points do you have? What is the square footage that each
access point covers? What is the data transfer rate of your wireless
workstations?



Chris Stover

Business Control Engineer

Deaver Industries

205-426-4309 Voice

205-426-4364 Fax

cstover@...

www.deaverind.com



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Dave Miller
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



We currently run Vantage 6.10 on several wireless workstations without any
issues. If you are going to do this a site survey must be done to evaluate
your environment, the number of access points required, etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: carl.heeder@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057




"Dave Miller"

<dave.miller2@com To:
<vantage@yahoogroups.com>

cast.net> cc:

Sent by: Subject: Re: [Vantage]
OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6
vantage@yahoogrou

ps.com





05/04/2005 02:48

PM

Please respond to

vantage









I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless
equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your
building. The cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




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What is the distance for your cabling? Are you running fiber optic at all?
I had a problem with work stations way in the back of my shop and I ended up
replacing my switches that I connect via fiber optic cables to my server, my
startup time when from 1 to 2 minutes to about 15 to 20 seconds. How old
are your workstations?



Chris Stover

Business Control Engineer

Deaver Industries

205-426-4309 Voice

205-426-4364 Fax

cstover@...

www.deaverind.com



-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
carl.heeder@...
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:32 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6




Curious We run 6.00 with a cabled and wireless environment. Vantage will
time out before it
will actually start when we try to use it on wireless.

But we have very long delays in our Vantage starting up on a client machine
( 40 sec to 2 min).
Maybe our problem is the installation.
Also we cannot run Vantage over VPN - to use VPN we must use Remote Desktop
and actually
runnVantage on a local machine.

Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057




"Dave Miller"

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OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6
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05/05/2005 07:29

AM

Please respond to

vantage









We currently run Vantage 6.10 on several wireless workstations without any
issues. If you are
going to do this a site survey must be done to evaluate your environment,
the number of access
points required, etc...
----- Original Message -----
From: carl.heeder@...
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6



Don't try to run Vantage on wireless!!!


Carl Heeder
ST Inverter America
281-506-3146
Mobile: 281-221-3421
FAX 978-725-3057



"Dave Miller"

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brands-Cat6
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05/04/2005 02:48

PM

Please respond to

vantage







I am not sure if you are open to this however, with the costs of wireless
equipment declining
it may be cheaper for you to implement this than to run new cable in your
building. The
cable
itself is cheap however, the labor to install it is not!
----- Original Message -----
From: amfabllc
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vantage] OT-bulk cable brands-Cat6


We are having a new building built and I am working with vendors on
the cabling. Do you have any input, or know where I could find a
comparison on Mohawk and Superior cable brands?
Thanks!
Ann Rohyans
AMFAB




Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked
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and Crystal Reports
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