Online Backup hogs all system resources

Per Progress support:

Windows 2008/R2 has Task Scheduler 2.0 embedded. In Task Scheduler 2.0, Microsoft uses "Credentials management using new security services" as a new feature. The Task Scheduler is now programmed to decrease the priority of any jobs run from Task Scheduler to below normal values for I/O, CPU and Memory operations, so any work scheduled to run are given lower priorities than normal.

To change the priority of a task defined within the Microsoft Task Scheduler 2.0:

1. Export the task (right mouse click the task and save the task as an XML file) .
2. Edit the export XML and modify the Priority value which is defaulted to 7. Set it to 5 which is the normal value.
3. Save the edited XML file.
4. Delete the original task from Task Scheduler.
5. Import the task into Task Scheduler.
HTH,
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mmcwilliams22
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 4:21 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Online Backup hogs all system resources



FYI I did a truncate BI over the weekend and the issue we were having has stopped.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "mmcwilliams22" <mmcwilliams22@...<mailto:mmcwilliams22@...>> wrote:
>
> We had this start happening a few months ago. Every time the backup runs users start getting no servers available. I have an open call to epicor but nothing useful from them yet either. Our DB is only 3Gig
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>, "Ned" <TechnoBabbly@> wrote:
> >
> > How big is your database?
> >
> > Also, the mfgbkup is just calling the probkup command, it's just another
> > script that calls something else.
> >
> > Your script is a bit odd to me, because it doesn't appear to back anything
> > up since that REM is gonna prevent that last line from running regardless of
> > what you are using.
> >
> > Have you run this manually? What happens then?
> >
> > Also, why delete the backup? The command will just overwrite the existing
> > file. I actually suggest people use a script that will take the date or
> > something to the end, that way you end up with more than one actual backup
> > on the system at a time, and you can tell when it's from.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > adam.whipp
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:17 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Online Backup hogs all system resources
> >
> > We are on 8.03.409C on Progress. We use the following script for an online
> > backup every night:
> >
> > echo Running Backup...
> > @echo on
> > d:
> > cd\backup\
> > del backup.1
> > cd\
> > D:\epicor\backup\backup.1
> > D:
> > cd \epicor\oe101b\bin
> > rem probkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1 mfgbkup
> > online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1
> >
> >
> > As you can see in the script, we have played with both probkup and mfgbkup,
> > and with either one, we have a problem with the system being unusable for
> > about 15 minutes while the backup runs. The backup causes the max number of
> > appservers to spawn and become "busy", which makes the system not able to
> > perform any transactions from a human during that time.
> >
> > Is this normal behavior, or do we have something configured wrong that is
> > allowing the backup to tie up every single appserver? We opened a ticket
> > with Epicor and they were unable to offer much help on this...
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> > Adam Whipp
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We are on 8.03.409C on Progress. We use the following script for an online backup every night:

echo Running Backup...
@echo on
d:
cd\backup\
del backup.1
cd\
D:\epicor\backup\backup.1
D:
cd \epicor\oe101b\bin
rem probkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1
mfgbkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1


As you can see in the script, we have played with both probkup and mfgbkup, and with either one, we have a problem with the system being unusable for about 15 minutes while the backup runs. The backup causes the max number of appservers to spawn and become "busy", which makes the system not able to perform any transactions from a human during that time.

Is this normal behavior, or do we have something configured wrong that is allowing the backup to tie up every single appserver? We opened a ticket with Epicor and they were unable to offer much help on this...

Thanks for the help!
Adam Whipp
How big is your database?

Also, the mfgbkup is just calling the probkup command, it's just another
script that calls something else.

Your script is a bit odd to me, because it doesn't appear to back anything
up since that REM is gonna prevent that last line from running regardless of
what you are using.

Have you run this manually? What happens then?

Also, why delete the backup? The command will just overwrite the existing
file. I actually suggest people use a script that will take the date or
something to the end, that way you end up with more than one actual backup
on the system at a time, and you can tell when it's from.

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
adam.whipp
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Online Backup hogs all system resources

We are on 8.03.409C on Progress. We use the following script for an online
backup every night:

echo Running Backup...
@echo on
d:
cd\backup\
del backup.1
cd\
D:\epicor\backup\backup.1
D:
cd \epicor\oe101b\bin
rem probkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1 mfgbkup
online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1


As you can see in the script, we have played with both probkup and mfgbkup,
and with either one, we have a problem with the system being unusable for
about 15 minutes while the backup runs. The backup causes the max number of
appservers to spawn and become "busy", which makes the system not able to
perform any transactions from a human during that time.

Is this normal behavior, or do we have something configured wrong that is
allowing the backup to tie up every single appserver? We opened a ticket
with Epicor and they were unable to offer much help on this...

Thanks for the help!
Adam Whipp



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We had this start happening a few months ago. Every time the backup runs users start getting no servers available. I have an open call to epicor but nothing useful from them yet either. Our DB is only 3Gig

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ned" <TechnoBabbly@...> wrote:
>
> How big is your database?
>
> Also, the mfgbkup is just calling the probkup command, it's just another
> script that calls something else.
>
> Your script is a bit odd to me, because it doesn't appear to back anything
> up since that REM is gonna prevent that last line from running regardless of
> what you are using.
>
> Have you run this manually? What happens then?
>
> Also, why delete the backup? The command will just overwrite the existing
> file. I actually suggest people use a script that will take the date or
> something to the end, that way you end up with more than one actual backup
> on the system at a time, and you can tell when it's from.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> adam.whipp
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:17 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Online Backup hogs all system resources
>
> We are on 8.03.409C on Progress. We use the following script for an online
> backup every night:
>
> echo Running Backup...
> @echo on
> d:
> cd\backup\
> del backup.1
> cd\
> D:\epicor\backup\backup.1
> D:
> cd \epicor\oe101b\bin
> rem probkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1 mfgbkup
> online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1
>
>
> As you can see in the script, we have played with both probkup and mfgbkup,
> and with either one, we have a problem with the system being unusable for
> about 15 minutes while the backup runs. The backup causes the max number of
> appservers to spawn and become "busy", which makes the system not able to
> perform any transactions from a human during that time.
>
> Is this normal behavior, or do we have something configured wrong that is
> allowing the backup to tie up every single appserver? We opened a ticket
> with Epicor and they were unable to offer much help on this...
>
> Thanks for the help!
> Adam Whipp
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
FYI I did a truncate BI over the weekend and the issue we were having has stopped.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "mmcwilliams22" <mmcwilliams22@...> wrote:
>
> We had this start happening a few months ago. Every time the backup runs users start getting no servers available. I have an open call to epicor but nothing useful from them yet either. Our DB is only 3Gig
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Ned" <TechnoBabbly@> wrote:
> >
> > How big is your database?
> >
> > Also, the mfgbkup is just calling the probkup command, it's just another
> > script that calls something else.
> >
> > Your script is a bit odd to me, because it doesn't appear to back anything
> > up since that REM is gonna prevent that last line from running regardless of
> > what you are using.
> >
> > Have you run this manually? What happens then?
> >
> > Also, why delete the backup? The command will just overwrite the existing
> > file. I actually suggest people use a script that will take the date or
> > something to the end, that way you end up with more than one actual backup
> > on the system at a time, and you can tell when it's from.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > adam.whipp
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 2:17 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Vantage] Online Backup hogs all system resources
> >
> > We are on 8.03.409C on Progress. We use the following script for an online
> > backup every night:
> >
> > echo Running Backup...
> > @echo on
> > d:
> > cd\backup\
> > del backup.1
> > cd\
> > D:\epicor\backup\backup.1
> > D:
> > cd \epicor\oe101b\bin
> > rem probkup online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1 mfgbkup
> > online D:\epicor\mfgsys803\db\mfgsys D:\backup\backup.1
> >
> >
> > As you can see in the script, we have played with both probkup and mfgbkup,
> > and with either one, we have a problem with the system being unusable for
> > about 15 minutes while the backup runs. The backup causes the max number of
> > appservers to spawn and become "busy", which makes the system not able to
> > perform any transactions from a human during that time.
> >
> > Is this normal behavior, or do we have something configured wrong that is
> > allowing the backup to tie up every single appserver? We opened a ticket
> > with Epicor and they were unable to offer much help on this...
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
> > Adam Whipp
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
>