Aaron,
Thanks for the info. I'm safari-ing deeper into the freeware/cheapware
jungle these days. It has great potential. And it seems doable because of
the access we all have to new product information here in the Vantage user
group - users sharing their personal experiences and opinions.
Most of my users only utilize a small portion of the original program's
capability anyway. And the cheap stuff seems to posess the commonly used
functionality of the original software. I think we tend to get caught up in
the popular hype, and buy the expensive stuff thinking it's the safe route.
But it's a big world out there - a lot of independent stuff going on. Just
a matter of finding out about it.
Thanks again for sharing.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
Gary,
Believe it or not, I am still testing it. I only found it last week. :)
So far it is doing wonderful, but I have not put it through all the paces
yet. The interface is simple enough for the "average" user though. I was
using "Ultimate Zip" a free winzip "clone" of sorts. Had language issues
with that one, and then started looking at "M.Dev Software ZipGenius". I
had a couple minor issues with the Italian in that one, but it is a real
strong candidate with a built in FTP (Very good interface for experts). I
am thinking of keeping that one for me and some of my power users, but 7-zip
seems to be the best so far for the "average" user. Besides you can't beat
the price with the command line interface.
Aaron Hoyt
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
Aaron,
It looks like this could replace winzip altogether - is that right? Do you
use it that way, or just for the command-line interface? Looks like a great
utility - and it's GNU freeware! Good find.
Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:56 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
http://www.7-zip.com/ ---get a free version of a zip utility that will
handle command line interface.
Install it on the server and then create a batch file that looks something
like this.
-----------
E:\EPIC50\PROGRESS\BIN\BACKVAN.BAT (our modified online backup bat)
cd c:\epicback\
Del backup.zip (remove the old zip (could use update switch instead))
7z.exe a -tzip backup.zip *.VN5 -mx (command line for zip)
-----------
In the example above, I have modified the backvan.bat file to backup our
database "online" using the output file of "c:\epicback\backup.VN5" The
live database resides on E: and I use the add switch after deleting the
original zip file just to be sure that if the zip file is there it is the
newest backup. I also use the -mx switch to use the maximum compression
ratio. In addition you will need your path command to contain the path to
7z.exe.
Now all you have to do is schedule the batch file using AT (or that little
GUI for AT that I brought up last week.) If you are going to use the -mx
switch, make sure you leave plenty of time for the entire process to
complete before your tape is scheduled to run. I recommend testing the
batch file a couple of times during low usage times to be sure what you are
dealing with.
Hope this sparks some ideas for someone.
Aaron Hoyt
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Thanks for the info. I'm safari-ing deeper into the freeware/cheapware
jungle these days. It has great potential. And it seems doable because of
the access we all have to new product information here in the Vantage user
group - users sharing their personal experiences and opinions.
Most of my users only utilize a small portion of the original program's
capability anyway. And the cheap stuff seems to posess the commonly used
functionality of the original software. I think we tend to get caught up in
the popular hype, and buy the expensive stuff thinking it's the safe route.
But it's a big world out there - a lot of independent stuff going on. Just
a matter of finding out about it.
Thanks again for sharing.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
Gary,
Believe it or not, I am still testing it. I only found it last week. :)
So far it is doing wonderful, but I have not put it through all the paces
yet. The interface is simple enough for the "average" user though. I was
using "Ultimate Zip" a free winzip "clone" of sorts. Had language issues
with that one, and then started looking at "M.Dev Software ZipGenius". I
had a couple minor issues with the Italian in that one, but it is a real
strong candidate with a built in FTP (Very good interface for experts). I
am thinking of keeping that one for me and some of my power users, but 7-zip
seems to be the best so far for the "average" user. Besides you can't beat
the price with the command line interface.
Aaron Hoyt
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:49 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
Aaron,
It looks like this could replace winzip altogether - is that right? Do you
use it that way, or just for the command-line interface? Looks like a great
utility - and it's GNU freeware! Good find.
Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hoyt [mailto:aaron@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 3:56 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re:[Vantage] Offtopic-Backups
>>>Can you share was your script looks like.If you are as budget conscious as I am lately you can use this one.
http://www.7-zip.com/ ---get a free version of a zip utility that will
handle command line interface.
Install it on the server and then create a batch file that looks something
like this.
-----------
E:\EPIC50\PROGRESS\BIN\BACKVAN.BAT (our modified online backup bat)
cd c:\epicback\
Del backup.zip (remove the old zip (could use update switch instead))
7z.exe a -tzip backup.zip *.VN5 -mx (command line for zip)
-----------
In the example above, I have modified the backvan.bat file to backup our
database "online" using the output file of "c:\epicback\backup.VN5" The
live database resides on E: and I use the add switch after deleting the
original zip file just to be sure that if the zip file is there it is the
newest backup. I also use the -mx switch to use the maximum compression
ratio. In addition you will need your path command to contain the path to
7z.exe.
Now all you have to do is schedule the batch file using AT (or that little
GUI for AT that I brought up last week.) If you are going to use the -mx
switch, make sure you leave plenty of time for the entire process to
complete before your tape is scheduled to run. I recommend testing the
batch file a couple of times during low usage times to be sure what you are
dealing with.
Hope this sparks some ideas for someone.
Aaron Hoyt
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/