[Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question

You may need to set them as a power user so they have access...

Aaron Hoyt
System Administrator
Design Standards Corp.
PO Box 1620
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Tel 603-826-7744
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:59 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Rick,

Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as the
Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND PASSWORDS
(do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display ADD
NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it will
display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double click
it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user type...Standard,
Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER he
you should be able to do what you want with dial up.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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Todd!!

You're a life saver!!

Thaks a ton! In fact, thanks 2 tons!

Rick

Todd Hofert wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as the
> Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND PASSWORDS
> (do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
> GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display ADD
> NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it will
> display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double click
> it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user type...Standard,
> Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER he
> you should be able to do what you want with dial up.
>
> Todd Hofert
> Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> (616)887-8243
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question
>
> This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.
>
> I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
> this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.
>
> I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
> granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
> boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.
>
> I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
> get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
> and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
> connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
> sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
> obvious?
>
> I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
> though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.
>
> Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!
>
> Rick Gors
>
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Things only seem to go awry when you are working on the bosses PC.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:17 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


Todd!!

You're a life saver!!

Thaks a ton! In fact, thanks 2 tons!

Rick

Todd Hofert wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as the
> Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND
PASSWORDS
> (do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
> GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display
ADD
> NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it
will
> display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double
click
> it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user
type...Standard,
> Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER
he
> you should be able to do what you want with dial up.
>
> Todd Hofert
> Spartan Graphics, Inc.
> (616)887-8243
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
> To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question
>
> This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.
>
> I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
> this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.
>
> I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
> granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
> boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.
>
> I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
> get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
> and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
> connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
> sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
> obvious?
>
> I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
> though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.
>
> Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!
>
> Rick Gors
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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What Todd suggests will work fine, but in _my_ case I added my boss' account
to the Administrators group of the machine (not the Domain Admins). This
allows him to add and remove software on his own, something that a standard
user cannot do.

We also ran into a number of applications that improperly ask for Write
access to the registry when all they really need is Read access. This
doesn't cause a problem in versions before Windows 2000, but a standard user
running W2K doesn't get Write access to the registry. So I have a couple of
people that have Admin privileges on their own machine. We've only had one
user screw things up on his machine by having this level of access and,
after we had to fdisk, format, and reinstall everything on his computer, I
doubt that we will have the same problem again! :)

================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


Rick,

Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as the
Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND PASSWORDS
(do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display ADD
NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it will
display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double
click
it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user
type...Standard,
Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER he
you should be able to do what you want with dial up.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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If you read the e-mail carefully I did not suggest adding him as a DOMAIN
ADMIN in fact I did not even make him a local ADMIN. The procedure I
describe adds his DOMAIN USER account to the local users on his machine and
I gave that user a POWER USER permission on the local machine only.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


What Todd suggests will work fine, but in _my_ case I added my boss'
account
to the Administrators group of the machine (not the Domain Admins). This
allows him to add and remove software on his own, something that a
standard
user cannot do.

We also ran into a number of applications that improperly ask for Write
access to the registry when all they really need is Read access. This
doesn't cause a problem in versions before Windows 2000, but a standard
user
running W2K doesn't get Write access to the registry. So I have a couple
of
people that have Admin privileges on their own machine. We've only had
one
user screw things up on his machine by having this level of access and,
after we had to fdisk, format, and reinstall everything on his computer, I
doubt that we will have the same problem again! :)

================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


Rick,

Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as the
Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND
PASSWORDS
(do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display
ADD
NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it
will
display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double
click
it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user
type...Standard,
Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER
he
you should be able to do what you want with dial up.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already - even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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Todd,
Please accept my apologies if I gave the impression that I was criticizing
anything that you said; I was not. I added the parenthetical phrase (not
Domain Admins) only to emphasize the difference between local and domain
administrators to (hopefully) prevent anyone from making a mistake that
could be very damaging. I understand that you are not advocating giving any
Admin privileges. My point was that we have had to give machine-level Admin
privileges to several users in our company because any other level,
including Power User, was not sufficient for them to do what they needed to
do.
Again, I'm sorry for any misunderstanding that I may have caused.
================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


If you read the e-mail carefully I did not suggest adding him as a DOMAIN
ADMIN in fact I did not even make him a local ADMIN. The procedure I
describe adds his DOMAIN USER account to the local users on his machine
and
I gave that user a POWER USER permission on the local machine only.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


What Todd suggests will work fine, but in _my_ case I added my boss'
account
to the Administrators group of the machine (not the Domain Admins).
This
allows him to add and remove software on his own, something that a
standard
user cannot do.

We also ran into a number of applications that improperly ask for Write
access to the registry when all they really need is Read access. This
doesn't cause a problem in versions before Windows 2000, but a standard
user
running W2K doesn't get Write access to the registry. So I have a
couple
of
people that have Admin privileges on their own machine. We've only had
one
user screw things up on his machine by having this level of access and,
after we had to fdisk, format, and reinstall everything on his computer,
I
doubt that we will have the same problem again! :)

================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission
question


Rick,

Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as
the
Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND
PASSWORDS
(do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS AND
GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will display
ADD
NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button it
will
display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and double
click
it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user
type...Standard,
Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD USER
he
you should be able to do what you want with dial up.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering
through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention it's
my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up account
to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to
I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already -
even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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No problem. I wanted to clarify that it was not necessary to grant Admin
privileges to accomplish this as granting admin rights to users make me
squeamish. The tone of my e-mail may have been inappropriate as I had just
finished sending an e-mail to my Vantage Rep regarding some garbage he sold
me and I am not real happy about it.

Apology accepted. No offense taken.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


Todd,
Please accept my apologies if I gave the impression that I was criticizing
anything that you said; I was not. I added the parenthetical phrase (not
Domain Admins) only to emphasize the difference between local and domain
administrators to (hopefully) prevent anyone from making a mistake that
could be very damaging. I understand that you are not advocating giving
any
Admin privileges. My point was that we have had to give machine-level
Admin
privileges to several users in our company because any other level,
including Power User, was not sufficient for them to do what they needed
to
do.
Again, I'm sorry for any misunderstanding that I may have caused.
================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:34 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission question


If you read the e-mail carefully I did not suggest adding him as a
DOMAIN
ADMIN in fact I did not even make him a local ADMIN. The procedure I
describe adds his DOMAIN USER account to the local users on his machine
and
I gave that user a POWER USER permission on the local machine only.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission
question


What Todd suggests will work fine, but in _my_ case I added my boss'
account
to the Administrators group of the machine (not the Domain Admins).
This
allows him to add and remove software on his own, something that a
standard
user cannot do.

We also ran into a number of applications that improperly ask for
Write
access to the registry when all they really need is Read access. This
doesn't cause a problem in versions before Windows 2000, but a
standard
user
running W2K doesn't get Write access to the registry. So I have a
couple
of
people that have Admin privileges on their own machine. We've only
had
one
user screw things up on his machine by having this level of access
and,
after we had to fdisk, format, and reinstall everything on his
computer,
I
doubt that we will have the same problem again! :)

================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Hofert [mailto:todd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permission
question


Rick,

Are you in a Domain? If so do the following: Log onto the machine as
the
Administrator (of the Domain.) Go to the Control Panel USERS AND
PASSWORDS
(do not right click MY COMPUTER and USE MANAGE to access the USERS
AND
GROUPS) be sure to use the control panel. Click ADD... it will
display
ADD
NEW USER with a user name and Domain field click the BROWSE button
it
will
display your list of domain users. Find your bosses log on and
double
click
it, click the next button and you will be prompted for user
type...Standard,
Restricted or Other. By making his domain user account a STANDARD
USER
he
you should be able to do what you want with dial up.

Todd Hofert
Spartan Graphics, Inc.
(616)887-8243


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Gors [mailto:rgors@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:53 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [Off Topic] Win 2000 dial-up permisson question


This is way off topic, but I'm desperate and need some direction.

I'm setting up Win 2000 Pro on (my boss's) PC and I am suffering
through
this Administrator/granting permissions/User fiasco.

I have a fair understanding (I think) now of installing programs and
granting folder permissions so that when the user (did I mention
it's
my
boss) logs on, they have the ability to use the program.

I have hit a brick wall when it comes to setting up a dial-up
account
to
get to the internet. As Admin I can and have set up my dial-up to
I-Net
and had to connect. But when I login as the user I don't have a
connection or permission to create one! How the (H-E-double hockey
sticks) can I get past this? Am I blind and have missed something
obvious?

I am starting to regret bumping some new PCs to Win 2000 already -
even
though it seems to be really cool and loaded with goodies.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!!!!!

Rick Gors


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