Patrick.......Your state must be a little more lenient.
Regards,
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:03 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic-W2K A-OK?
Todd,
Seems strange, when traded in my car in last year for a van the proof of
owner ship was a title. I did not need a title, original invoice,
canceled
check, sticker from the window, original paper floor mats, copy of the
VIN,
and a picture of me taking the keys from the original salesman to prove
ownership.
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic-W2K A-OK?
Patrick,
I just spent 4 hrs at a MS licensing seminar in Chicago 2 weeks ago.
Any MS software purchased with a PC is only valid ON that PC. The
licenses
are NOT transferable. When the PC dies so does the licensing. That,
in
fact, has always been the MS licensing position. Understand that even
MS
suggests that you do not buy Office with a PC for that very reason. You
are
much better off purchasing MS software under a open licensing agreement
because (1) the licenses can be used on any PC you own (2) the licenses
are
down gradable.
Also, ghosting is also illegal. If you purchase 10 PC's at one time
from
one vendor that are EXACTLY the same you cannot upload one image to a
ghost
server and then splash it out to all 10 PC's. If you are audited each
PC
MUST show the license codes that were purchased with each PC. MS is
very
anal about this.
Another piece of trivia is that "Proof" of ownership requires at the
very
least a copy of the original invoice for the PC or software package. MS
suggests that your proof of ownership bundle include: A copy of the
original PO, the packing list, a copy of the invoice, the license page
from
the box, and the license / upc symbols from the box.
And then my personal favorite --- If you have a PC on your desk at work
and
a PC at home with Office on both you need TWO licenses. If you have a
PC on
your desk at work and a LAPTOP at home with Office on both you only need
ONE
license. I talked to the MS rep after the meeting and suggested to him
that
this was a really stupid and he agreed. His words of wisdom - Buy two
copies now even if you have a laptop at home because at some point in
the
future that licensing oddity would be corrected and unless you keep
track
you might not know it.
Which of course leads us to the fact the software licensing is a moving
target and unless you have a full time lawyer on staff constantly
researching EVERY package you own the odds are you will never pass a
software audit.
It's a wonderful thing ...
Todd Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Winter, Patrick [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] Off Topic-W2K A-OK?
Don't make your first Win2000Pro PC your Bosses. If you run older
programs
(DOS, etc...) they may have problems you have to track down. Plug & Play
works great but things like 2 year old HP scanners may need new drivers.
You
will also have to configure security and access on the client. This is a
big
change if your using Win98. You may want to play with Win2000Pro for a
couple of months before giving it to users. I noticed Dell doesn't give
you
the OS installation CD and more and the Microsoft License Code only
worked
on that PC that it came with. I purchased a copy of Win2000Pro off the
shelf
just to get a CD. If appears Microsoft is changing the licensing to live
and
die with the PC it was sold with. You will find Win2000Pro is much
better
for a business environment but give yourself time and don't every give a
newly release OS to your boss unless he/she is a computer geek.
For what its worth.
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Kuphall [mailto:
marty.kuphall@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 4:20 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] Off Topic-W2K A-OK?
The boss wants a new PC. It appears Dell no longer offers NT as an OS.
Any problems going to Windows 2000? I think I have seen messages saying
many of you have not had any problems with it but I would like to be
sure there are no gotcha's if we start down that path.
Thanks,
Marty Kuphall
Ultra Tool & Mfg.
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