[ Off Topic ] Terminal Server & Citrix Metaframe

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We bought Citrix Metaframe last December and we Paid $4200 for Citrix
Metaframe 1.8 and 15 users (with the Subscription Advantage - free upgrades
and feature releases for a year). If I remember correctly, the subscription
advantage was an additional $600, but I can't remember exactly. With citrix
the users are concurrent, so you only need to have enough user licenses for
the number of concurrent connections you will have. Citrix runs on top of
Terminal server.

We have terminal server NT, not 2000. I have never used 2000. but I had
heard that it had some pretty advanced features, so perhaps if you are
running 2000 you would not need citrix. We had been running just terminal
server for almost a year for our Chicago site to connect to Vantage. They
only had one printer and we were able to map it so they could print locally
without a problem. When we brought on another remote site, the printers
issue was too difficult without the citrix add-on, but it may be better with
terminal server 2000, I'm not sure.

As far as loading office onto terminal server and letting users run it, yes
you can do this, but I don't think it is legal in Billy's eyes unless each
user who connects also has an office license for the software they are
running. I'm not positive on that, though.
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Just looking at switching from remote access via NetOp over standalone PC's
to MS terminal server and/or Citrix Metaframe.

I have BackOffice Server 2000 which includes Terminal Server and I
understand that Win2000 Pro includes a Terminal Server CAL. So I think I am
legal in Billy's eyes.

I need remote file transfer and printing capabilities so I think I need
Citrix Metaframe. Does this S/W run on top of MS terminal server or instead
of it, and what is the licensing costs for 1 server and 3 to 30 clients?
I'm just in the budgeting & planning stage so rough numbers are okay.

And if I load MS Office on the terminal server can anyone with a terminal
server CAL us it?

Just found out that MS is discontinuing BackOffice Server and CAL's on
September 28, 2001. (not the small business edition) For more info see:

http://www.microsoft.com/backofficeserver/howtobuy/pricing/default.asp


Best regards,

Jerry Solobay

IS/IT Manager

Ebco Aerospace


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Anderson [mailto:tanderson@...]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:11 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] [ Off Topic ] Privacy Issues

I just ran across this website and though the group might find it
interesting.

http://www.privacyfoundation.org/

Dedicated to the legal and moral issues around monitoring employees usage of
PC's and the Web. Also contains info on Web monitoring by the companies you
visit on the web.

There is more to this topic than you might think ...

Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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Lots of license issues..... You might want to take them up with your
software dealer.
Look below and I will try the best I can **********
Nancy Dunn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Solobay [mailto:jsolobay@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 1:56 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] [ Off Topic ] Terminal Server & Citrix Metaframe


Just looking at switching from remote access via NetOp over standalone PC's
to MS terminal server and/or Citrix Metaframe.

I have BackOffice Server 2000 which includes Terminal Server and I
understand that Win2000 Pro includes a Terminal Server CAL. So I think I am
legal in Billy's eyes.
******I believe is is correct...

I need remote file transfer and printing capabilities so I think I need
Citrix Metaframe. Does this S/W run on top of MS terminal server or instead
of it, and what is the licensing costs for 1 server and 3 to 30 clients?
I'm just in the budgeting & planning stage so rough numbers are okay.
*******Citrix runs with Terminal Server. You need 1 TS Cal and 1 Metaframe
Cal for each User.
***Quick guess at prices...Server$1300 to $2000 20 users / $4000 - 10
users / $2000
***Check your favorite Software dealer web site or Microsoft's

And if I load MS Office on the terminal server can anyone with a terminal
server CAL us it?
******Sorry nice try... I was told you need an Office licn. for each user
that can
access it.. (not concurrent license)..

Just found out that MS is discontinuing BackOffice Server and CAL's on
September 28, 2001. (not the small business edition) For more info see:

http://www.microsoft.com/backofficeserver/howtobuy/pricing/default.asp


Best regards,

Jerry Solobay

IS/IT Manager

Ebco Aerospace