Non-Conformance and DMR process question

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I’m of the opinion that if you have the system set to flag the parts for receipt inspection, then send them down that route, if you discover or suspect non-conforming parts through the receipt process or thereafter that are not designated for receiving inspection then start at non-conformance. Both routes still lead you to the same airport but it’s cleaner from a process control standpoint as well as roles & responsibilities.

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-3119
FAX: (715)284-4084
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ok, I understand but what if you have parts that come straight from shipping to inspection because they have to be inspected upon receipt. Do you start a Non-Conformance first? Or go straight to inspection processing?

Thanks


On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:21 PM, "Rob Bucek rbucek@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Another way to look at the process Epicor has set up there with design intent is a three step/phase approach; Non-Conformance (phase I) is raising your hand ‘I think I have a problem here’, Phase II Inspection Processing is where we confirm or deny that we do in fact have a problem (i.e. parts out of spec – forward to phase III or there is no problem, kick them back into play), and finally Phase III DMR processing is where we decide how we will disposition the bad parts (scrap, rework, return to vendor etc..).

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-3119
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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When you do the inspection processing you are working the non-conformance. The non-conformance id is available at that time.

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Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 11:23 AM


When we fail a part from PO Receipts in Inspection Processing it creates a DMR# but not a Non-Conformance.
We are trying to help Quality get using what we have and their processes seem skewed. So I am learning too.



On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:15 AM, "'Bethany Rye' brye@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Your PO Receipts go to Inspection Processing on the PO Receipts tab which is done within the same window (Production Management > Quality Assurance > General Operations > Inspection Processing) as Non-conformance Operations only those are done on the Operations tab (this is for manufactured parts needing inspection due to an operation). So in essence, the PO Receipt is treated like a non-conformance and I believe it is assigned a Non-conformance number.

From there, if the quantity is “passed”, it goes to stock, a job, or a subcontract job. The “failed” quantity goes to a DMR for processing.

Bethany Rye
Epicor Business Analyst
PTI Engineered Plastics



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When you do the inspection processing you are working the non-conformance. The non-conformance id is available at that time. 

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Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 11:23 AM


 

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  <p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yui_3_16_0_1_1432743211892_2623"><span id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yui_3_16_0_1_1432743211892_3155">When we fail a part from PO Receipts in Inspection Processing it creates a DMR# but not a Non-Conformance.</span></div><div id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yui_3_16_0_1_1432743211892_2847"><span id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yui_3_16_0_1_1432743211892_2846">We are trying to help Quality get using what we have and their processes seem skewed. So I am learning too.</span></div><div id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yui_3_16_0_1_1432743211892_3761"><span></span>&nbsp;</div>  <br><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:15 AM, &quot;&#39;Bethany Rye&#39; brye@... [vantage]&quot; &lt;vantage@yahoogroups.com&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599y_msg_container"><div id="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456"><div>

 

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  <div></div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456WordSection1"><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456MsoNormal">Your PO Receipts go to Inspection Processing on the PO Receipts tab which is done within the same window (Production Management &gt; Quality Assurance &gt; General Operations &gt; Inspection Processing) as Non-conformance Operations only those are done on the Operations tab (this is for manufactured parts needing inspection due to an operation).&nbsp; So in essence, the PO Receipt is treated like a non-conformance and I believe it is assigned a Non-conformance number.&nbsp; </div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456MsoNormal">From there, if the quantity is “passed”, it goes to stock, a job, or a subcontract job.&nbsp; The “failed” quantity goes to a DMR for processing.</div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class="ygrps-yiv-1468378599yiv0608238456MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><b><span style="color:rgb(64, 64, 64);font-size:10pt;">Bethany Rye</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;"><br clear="none"></span><span style="color:rgb(64, 64, 64);font-size:10pt;">Epicor Business Analyst</span><span style="font-size:12pt;"> <br clear="none"></span>PTI Engineered Plastics</div></div> 

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Another way to look at the process Epicor has set up there with design intent is a three step/phase approach; Non-Conformance (phase I) is raising your hand ‘I think I have a problem here’, Phase II Inspection Processing is where we confirm or deny that we do in fact have a problem (i.e. parts out of spec – forward to phase III or there is no problem, kick them back into play), and finally Phase III DMR processing is where we decide how we will disposition the bad parts (scrap, rework, return to vendor etc..).

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-3119
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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When you do the inspection processing you are working the non-conformance. The non-conformance id is available at that time.

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Non-Conformance and DMR process question
Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 11:23 AM


When we fail a part from PO Receipts in Inspection Processing it creates a DMR# but not a Non-Conformance.
We are trying to help Quality get using what we have and their processes seem skewed. So I am learning too.



On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:15 AM, "'Bethany Rye' brye@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Your PO Receipts go to Inspection Processing on the PO Receipts tab which is done within the same window (Production Management > Quality Assurance > General Operations > Inspection Processing) as Non-conformance Operations only those are done on the Operations tab (this is for manufactured parts needing inspection due to an operation). So in essence, the PO Receipt is treated like a non-conformance and I believe it is assigned a Non-conformance number.

From there, if the quantity is “passed”, it goes to stock, a job, or a subcontract job. The “failed” quantity goes to a DMR for processing.

Bethany Rye
Epicor Business Analyst
PTI Engineered Plastics




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ok, I understand but what if you have parts that come straight from shipping to inspection because they have to be inspected upon receipt.  Do you start a Non-Conformance first?  Or go straight to inspection processing? 
 
Thanks



On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:21 PM, "Rob Bucek rbucek@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  
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  <div>Another way to look at the process Epicor has set up there with design intent is a three step/phase approach;  Non-Conformance (phase I) is raising your hand ‘I think I have a problem here’, Phase II Inspection Processing is where we confirm or deny that we do in fact have a problem (i.e. parts out of spec – forward to phase III or there is no problem, kick them back into play), and finally Phase III DMR processing is where we decide how we will disposition the bad parts (scrap, rework, return to vendor etc..).


Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-3119
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

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When you do the inspection processing you are working the non-conformance. The non-conformance id is available at that time.

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

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Subject: [Vantage] Re: Non-Conformance and DMR process question
Date: Wed, May 27, 2015 11:23 AM


When we fail a part from PO Receipts in Inspection Processing it creates a DMR# but not a Non-Conformance.
We are trying to help Quality get using what we have and their processes seem skewed. So I am learning too.



On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:15 AM, "'Bethany Rye' brye@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Your PO Receipts go to Inspection Processing on the PO Receipts tab which is done within the same window (Production Management > Quality Assurance > General Operations > Inspection Processing) as Non-conformance Operations only those are done on the Operations tab (this is for manufactured parts needing inspection due to an operation). So in essence, the PO Receipt is treated like a non-conformance and I believe it is assigned a Non-conformance number.

From there, if the quantity is “passed”, it goes to stock, a job, or a subcontract job. The “failed” quantity goes to a DMR for processing.

Bethany Rye
Epicor Business Analyst
PTI Engineered Plastics



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