No suggestion to purchase a purchased part with demand and not enough stock

Epicor ERP 10
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Reported problems from our buyer below… Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Please explain why No PO Suggestion appears.

On 2/17/2021 I had ordered SD-8GB-BLANK for SO123502 on PO26695. The sales order is for quantity 500. The SD-8GB-BLANK are 96 min/mult. So the PO is for 576. Up until today we did not have a confirmed ship date on the PO26695. Constant expedites for over 1-1/2 years. Today I get shipping notification PO26695.
I want to let everyone know we can finally ship this Sales Order. I went into time phase to get the sales order. That is when I see we have another SO124070 needing 560 of this same part SD-8GB-BLANK. There is no PO suggestion showing in time phase. I have not purchased these. SO124070 was entered on 06/16/2021.

Did I see PO Suggestion for SO123502? I do not remember. I could have heard we got the order and sent the PO to the supplier or maybe I did get the suggestion in February.

Here is what Time Phase looks like right now. I have to get these on order so it will not look like this in a few minutes
Also the part seems have all the correct boxes checked that would make t Generate PO Suggestions (screenshots below.

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Are you running Process MRP or Generate Suggestions? did you run with a cut off date?

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Ah yes, i forgot about cutoff date… Can you remind me which date it looks at to know if it should plan?

Below is a screenshot of process MRP. Our cutoff date is blank, after reviewing past support cases I see Epicor support indicated a blank date indicates it should plan for everything, but in practice we were seeing it plan 6 weeks out…

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that is correct a blank cut off date should get everything. Are you saying you are only seeing 6 weeks out with a blank cut off date?

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Sorry I may be adding confusion. If helpful I rarely work in this area so my knowledge is not very good… I just looked at production planner and I see jobs through Dec 2023 listed, see screenshot below.

Any pointers where to go from here would be much appreciated!

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Your time phase window shows MRP hasn’t ran since September 27th?

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PO 26695, is it locked?

Also,

  • Are there reschedule in/out deltas on the part?
  • Are there reschedule in/out deltas on the part class?
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Looking at the Time Phase window, it shows SO 124070/1/1, which takes the balance below zero, is due 6/6/2023 and a lead time of 182. So, a PO suggestion is not needed until 12/6/2022.

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These are old screenshots from when the problem was reported… It runs each night, which I verified.

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Thanks so much, that makes a ton of sense I’ll pass this along to our buyer!

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It turns out the order release was unfirmed so there was no demand…

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So, it still shows in Time Phase when the order release is not firm?

Also, @A.Baeisa and I collaborated on this list once upon a time at EUG. May help in the future.

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Correct an unfirmed sales order release will show up in time phase. Kudos to @LarsonSolutions for figuring this out in like 10 minutes :slight_smile:

There is one pending question, I’ll start a new thread, as the suggestion from @jgreenaway has worried our buyer we won’t get PO suggestions until it’s time to buy, but the problem is with today’s supply chain issues lead times are a big unknown…

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Hi Eddie, please let your buyer know my answer was incorrect. If MRP (or Generate Suggestions) is run with no cut-off date or at least past the date of need, they WILL get PO suggestions. I was wrong and should have edited my post.

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Thank you so much for your help and clarification!!!

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