MultiPart Forms

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1
Steve,

We were using the same technique with Win-95/98 clients - we would simply
install a second reference to the same network printers using the HP-2
drivers. The first might say "HP4 - Standard" while the second would say
"HP4 - Vantage" - both actually pointing at the same network printer.

Have you figured out how to do this with a W2K client ? So far I have been
too stupid to grasp what should be easy to do ... What's the trick ?

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sanders [mailto:ssanders@...]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


Tom,

We have had some luck with the following general technique; perhaps it will
work with what you need.

Every Vantage user in the company has a printer specifically named "HP
Laserjet for Vantage" in addition to any other printers they might have. If
I recall correctly, Epicor is still saying that you need to use HP LaserJet
II drivers to make sure that everything prints correctly so we had to add
the additional print drivers anyway.

What we noticed was that in Crystal Reports, if we changed the print driver
in the Report Designer to "HP Laserjet for Vantage" then all of the settings
would carry over to the workstation as long as they had a printer with the
_exact_ same name. I don't know for sure if the number of copies will hold
or not but its worth a try.

Good luck!
======================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [mailto:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
forms that print to a dot matrix printer. Some programs have an option
built in that will allow you to send multiple copies of the form to a
laser
printer,(without clicking 4 copies in the dialog box) in fact some
programs
will allow you to send each part to a different printer. Imagine that!
No
I DON'T plan on trying to insert multipart tractor feed paper into my
laser
printer! Yes I'm looking for a way to print multiple copies each time to
the printer without stopping to enter the number of copies.



-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without
selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom




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We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom
3
How do you plan on printing a multi-part form in a laser printer? The only
way to use a laser is select the number of copies, or are you looking for a
way to automatically print x copies each time?

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check, Inc.
763-694-4110

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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4
I believe you can setup most HP printers to print more than one copy by
default.
My HP4050N I just set to 4 and it worked.

Patrick Winter
sSc Specialty Screw Corporation
Vantage 5.00.317, Progress 9.1a


-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [mailto:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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5
There is multi-part paper available for lasers. Have see as many as
three copies it works on heat principal. Drawback is the paper is very
expensive. You could also setup the printer to print as many copies of
the form you want - most lasers have this capability.

Keith E. Taylor
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Phone: 216-476-1416 ext 26
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Neutgens [mailto:alex.neutgens@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:56 PM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

How do you plan on printing a multi-part form in a laser printer? The
only
way to use a laser is select the number of copies, or are you looking
for a
way to automatically print x copies each time?

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check, Inc.
763-694-4110

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our
invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without
selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
forms that print to a dot matrix printer. Some programs have an option
built in that will allow you to send multiple copies of the form to a laser
printer,(without clicking 4 copies in the dialog box) in fact some programs
will allow you to send each part to a different printer. Imagine that! No
I DON'T plan on trying to insert multipart tractor feed paper into my laser
printer! Yes I'm looking for a way to print multiple copies each time to
the printer without stopping to enter the number of copies.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Neutgens [mailto:alex.neutgens@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


How do you plan on printing a multi-part form in a laser printer? The only
way to use a laser is select the number of copies, or are you looking for a
way to automatically print x copies each time?

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check, Inc.
763-694-4110

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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Tom,
I think Wayne Cox had some ascii code that could be sent to the printer with a report that could tell it to print X number of copies each time. Or else he set that at the server so that it always prints X number of copies. You could check with him on the list, or look back at the archives.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: TOM LAWRENCE
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
forms that print to a dot matrix printer. Some programs have an option
built in that will allow you to send multiple copies of the form to a laser
printer,(without clicking 4 copies in the dialog box) in fact some programs
will allow you to send each part to a different printer. Imagine that! No
I DON'T plan on trying to insert multipart tractor feed paper into my laser
printer! Yes I'm looking for a way to print multiple copies each time to
the printer without stopping to enter the number of copies.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Neutgens [mailto:alex.neutgens@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


How do you plan on printing a multi-part form in a laser printer? The only
way to use a laser is select the number of copies, or are you looking for a
way to automatically print x copies each time?

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check, Inc.
763-694-4110

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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>When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
>forms that print to a dot matrix printer ..... I'm looking for a way to
>print multiple copies each time to the printer without stopping to enter
>the number of copies.

Ahh, yet another thing that *should* be easy, but isn't. We print AP
checks to a dedicated printer on duplicate forms (I too have heard forms
vendors call them "2 part" -- bad choice of names, IMO)

Vantage and/or Crystal seem to always pull the printer options from the
default printer, rather than the one you selected. So if we set our print
preferences to 2 copies on the check printer, it ignores it and looks at
the default printer. You might try selecting the multi-copy printer as
windows' default and see if honors the number of copies setting. Chances
are though, 90% of your prints are destined for a plain-vanilla printer, so
then you'd have to change the properties on that one (arrgh!)

You can configure multiple copies at the printer, at least on all the HPs
I've messed with. But -- that doesn't work either. Windows still sends
its control codes, and overrides back to one copy.

The hack I came up is done in the printer's network interface. We use Axis
brand print server / NICs to plug the printer onto the 'net. They have a
string substitution feature that I use to modify the control string to
force two copies. The HP sequence is \e&l1X (esc ampersand lower-L digit-1
X) or 1B 26 6C 31 58 in hex. Stuff in 1B 26 6C 32 58 and it always prints
two copies. Dunno if the jet-directs or other adapters have this feature.

-Wayne Cox
9
I'd go low tech with this one.

Use the copy machine. Then at least whoever is making
the copies each time would ask themself..Why am I doing this??
10
Thanks for the input.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:41 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


Tom,
I think Wayne Cox had some ascii code that could be sent to the printer
with a report that could tell it to print X number of copies each time. Or
else he set that at the server so that it always prints X number of copies.
You could check with him on the list, or look back at the archives.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

----- Original Message -----
From: TOM LAWRENCE
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
forms that print to a dot matrix printer. Some programs have an option
built in that will allow you to send multiple copies of the form to a
laser
printer,(without clicking 4 copies in the dialog box) in fact some
programs
will allow you to send each part to a different printer. Imagine that!
No
I DON'T plan on trying to insert multipart tractor feed paper into my
laser
printer! Yes I'm looking for a way to print multiple copies each time to
the printer without stopping to enter the number of copies.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Neutgens [mailto:alex.neutgens@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:56 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


How do you plan on printing a multi-part form in a laser printer? The
only
way to use a laser is select the number of copies, or are you looking for
a
way to automatically print x copies each time?

Alex Neutgens
Controller
Circuit Check, Inc.
763-694-4110

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without
selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom


Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links

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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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11
Tom,

We have had some luck with the following general technique; perhaps it will
work with what you need.

Every Vantage user in the company has a printer specifically named "HP
Laserjet for Vantage" in addition to any other printers they might have. If
I recall correctly, Epicor is still saying that you need to use HP LaserJet
II drivers to make sure that everything prints correctly so we had to add
the additional print drivers anyway.

What we noticed was that in Crystal Reports, if we changed the print driver
in the Report Designer to "HP Laserjet for Vantage" then all of the settings
would carry over to the workstation as long as they had a printer with the
_exact_ same name. I don't know for sure if the number of copies will hold
or not but its worth a try.

Good luck!
======================
Steve Sanders
Delta Centrifugal Corp

-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [mailto:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms


When I say "multipart" I mean as an alternative to the standard multipart
forms that print to a dot matrix printer. Some programs have an option
built in that will allow you to send multiple copies of the form to a
laser
printer,(without clicking 4 copies in the dialog box) in fact some
programs
will allow you to send each part to a different printer. Imagine that!
No
I DON'T plan on trying to insert multipart tractor feed paper into my
laser
printer! Yes I'm looking for a way to print multiple copies each time to
the printer without stopping to enter the number of copies.



-----Original Message-----
From: TOM LAWRENCE [SMTP:TLAWRENCE@...]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:49 AM
Subject: [Vantage] MultiPart Forms

We are using vantage 4.0, and would like to use Crystal for our invoices,
po's etc.. and send to laser printer. However, we need multipl copies.
Does anybody have a solution for printing multipart forms without
selecting
number of copies and the print dialog box?

Thanks

Tom




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