MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

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We use historical dates because we have a lot of sales orders due in
past dates. Our major customer does not allow us to change our SO
required dates due to their MRP requirements. In some cases SO dates are
in the near future, but because of backward scheduling the suggestions
are created in the past. That is when the MRP Process schedules jobs in
1997 or 1998 instead of just January of 2011.

I am including the beginning portion of the scheduling log, it keeps on
rescheduling back one day at a time until it gets to 1997, the file size
is about 5MB.



21:39:28 no 31 Version 9.04 - 1 MoveJobItem
es/SchedEngine.p MoveMRPJob es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 ****Processing -
Job:zCH00000000189, Assembly: 0, Operation:0. MoveJobItem
es/SchedEngine.p MoveMRPJob es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Passed StartDate - 05/17/11,
Passed StartHour: 0. MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p MoveMRPJob
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 16 Passed DueDate - 05/17/11,
Passed DueHour: 24. MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p
MoveMRPJob es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 62 Company - NATEL, JobNum:
zCH00000000189 AssemblySeq 0. MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p
MoveMRPJob es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Scheduling in past is allowed -
yes 05/18/11. MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p MoveMRPJob
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Scheduling code SB
processJob es/SchedEngine.p MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Changed DueDate to: 05/17/11 for
0 days of receive time for CH29 processJob es/SchedEngine.p
MoveJobItem es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Scheduling job zCH00000000189
Assembly 0 Operation 10 mainProc es/SchedEngine.p
doMainProc es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 16 Scheduling Block -
Alloc: 1 Prod: 320 Split 320 Ops: 30 SDt: 05/17/11 SHr: 24 EDt: 05/17/11
EHr: 24 Setup Time 0. createAllocationBlock
es/SchedEngine.p scheduleOperation es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Scheduling Job zCH00000000189
Assem: 0 Operation: 10 il_OprBackward yes scheduleOperation
es/SchedEngine.p mainProc es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Creating new Block calendar for
Allocation Block: 1 operationBackward es/SchedEngine.p
scheduleOperation es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Prod Master
x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
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x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- makeOperCal
es/SchedEngine.p operationBackward es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 15 Setup Master
x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-
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x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- makeOperCal
es/SchedEngine.p operationBackward es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0 Backward
Scheduling - Job zCH00000000189 Asm 0 Opr 10 OpDtl 10 AllocationBlock -
1 For: Enddate - 05/17/11 EndHour - 24 Endtime 1 tmpendtime 504456.
opDtlBkProduction es/SchedEngine.p opDtlBackward es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Scheduling Resource: MFG - CH for 05/17/11 for a time of 24 Forward =
no. processResGrp es/SchedEngine.p getResourceList
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
************Scheduling resource MFG - CH **************************
processResourceID es/SchedEngine.p processResGrp es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 16
Getting Time Block for AllocationBlock.SetupTime 0
AllocationBlock.ProdTime 320 processResourceID
es/SchedEngine.p processResGrp es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Trying to schedule resource MFG - CH for 320 hours
processResourceID es/SchedEngine.p processResGrp es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Making production calendar for Resource MFG - CH from production
calendar NATEL. makeConResCal es/SchedEngine.p processResourceID
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 16
Making setup calendar NATEL for Resource: MFG - CH. makeConResCal
es/SchedEngine.p processResourceID es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Backward Scheduling MFG - CH for 320 hours on 05/17/11 with a EndTime
of 24 IP-ProcTime 24. processResourceID es/SchedEngine.p
processResGrp es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Infinitely scheduling MFG - CH FiniteHorizonDate 05/18/11 ScheduleDate
05/17/11 getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p
runBackwardResSched es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found 05/17/11 as a valid working date IP-ProcTime = 86400
getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p runBackwardResSched
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found 05/17/11 as a valid working date getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p runBackwardResSched es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Scheduling resource MFG - CH starting at time: 05/17/11 24
(getBackwardDateTime) getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p runBackwardResSched es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Scheduling resource MFG - CH for : ScheduleDate 05/17/11 FirstProdHour 0
LastProdHour 8 (getBackwardDateTime) getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p runBackwardResSched es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 15
Looking for previous scheduled time on resource MFG - CH before
05/17/11 and a start hour of 8 getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p runBackwardResSched es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Looking to Schedule 320 Hours Ending on 05/17/11 and an end hour of 8
(getPrevTotalAvailProdTime) getPrevTotalAvailProdTime
es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found that resource MFG - CH has 8 working hours on 05/17/11.
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Looking to Schedule 320 Hours Ending on 05/17/11 and an end hour of 8
(getPrevTotalAvailProdTime) getPrevTotalAvailProdTime
es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 8 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 7 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 6 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 5 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 4 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 3 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 2 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 1 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Total hours Found 8 on 05/17/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found that resource MFG - CH has 8 working hours on 05/16/11.
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Looking to Schedule 320 Hours Ending on 05/16/11 and an end hour of 8
(getPrevTotalAvailProdTime) getPrevTotalAvailProdTime
es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 8 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 7 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 6 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 5 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 4 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 3 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 2 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found open hour 1 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Total hours Found 16 on 05/16/11 (getPrevTotalAvailProdTime)
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Found that resource MFG - CH has 0 working hours on 05/15/11.
getPrevTotalAvailProdTime es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime
es/SchedEngine.p

21:39:28 no 0
Looking to Schedule 320 Hours Ending on 05/15/11 and an end hour of 8
(getPrevTotalAvailProdTime) getPrevTotalAvailProdTime
es/SchedEngine.p getBackwardDateTime es/SchedEngine.p





Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@...



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Of cooner_55421
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997





>un-checking the "Allow Historical Dates"
Just wondering if you ever found out why MRP wanted to set historical
dates? 1997 sounds so extreme.

Still using 8.03.409C.
In my case, most historical dates can be duplicated manually when I
backtrack from the due date on a sale order or job.
But, I do have a few examples of methods that just won't set dates
correctly (or do it differently) depending on the use of
forward/backward scheduling.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Mike Tonoyan" <mtonoyan@...> wrote:
>
> Len,
>
>
>
> It looks like un-checking the "Allow Historical Dates" fixed the
> problem. I ran a BAQ and didn't see a single suggestion job scheduled
in
> the past.
>
> As far as the Multi Level CPT is concerned, it is possible they have
> added that feature in 9.05 version, I checked every where for it could
> not find it in 9.04.507.
>
> Thank you so much for your help! I hope I can be of help to you or to
> others in the group in the future.
>
>
>
> Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.
>
> mtonoyan@...
>
>
>
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[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Len Hartka
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:43 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
>
>
>
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> I forgot to say that we do not check it, but feel we will
> should.
>
>
> Len
>
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> If the screen shot I pasted below makes it through, then you can see
> "Multi level CTP" in lower right.
> If not, then it is on the Part program: Part tab >>
> Plants tab >> Detail tab
> Check box is in the lower right corner of
> the top Area.
>
> I really do not know much about it - mostly it is for Running CTP
> during Sales-Order-Entry, but I think it might come into plan woth
MRP.
>
> Len
>
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Len,
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
> without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome
tomorrow.
>
> We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
> suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
> but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
> we are on 9.04.507 version.
>
> Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.
>
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> Sun went live on 11/29/10
> on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
> Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
>
> I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
> very early dates:
>
> Assuming Vantage is like E9.
> 1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
> stop it.
> 2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
> stocks came up with that date.
> If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
> to see how it is set.
>
> 3. Below is how we run MRP.
> 4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
> Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
> parts).
> Just to see if it acts the same.
> 5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
> for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
> 6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
> M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
> scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
> 7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
> 'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
> negative numbers, or corruption.
> 8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
> upgrade problems.
> 9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
> >>Detail screen
>
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>
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> Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
> jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem
before?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager
>
> Natel Engineering
>
> 9340 Owensmouth Ave
>
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After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?



Best Regards



Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

mtonoyan@...

Direct: 818-734-6511

Ext.: 311

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Good Day Mike:

Sun went live on 11/29/10
on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)

I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
very early dates:

Assuming Vantage is like E9.
1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
stop it.
2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
stocks came up with that date.
If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
to see how it is set.


3. Below is how we run MRP.
4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
parts).
Just to see if it acts the same.
5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
negative numbers, or corruption.
8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
upgrade problems.
9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
>>Detail screen



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Tonoyan
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:40 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997




After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?

Best Regards

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>

Direct: 818-734-6511

Ext.: 311

Cell: 818-397-8515

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Len,



Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome tomorrow.

We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
we are on 9.04.507 version.



Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@...



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Len Hartka
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997





Good Day Mike:

Sun went live on 11/29/10
on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)

I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
very early dates:

Assuming Vantage is like E9.
1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
stop it.
2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
stocks came up with that date.
If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
to see how it is set.


3. Below is how we run MRP.
4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
parts).
Just to see if it acts the same.
5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
negative numbers, or corruption.
8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
upgrade problems.
9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
>>Detail screen



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Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?

Best Regards

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

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Good Day Mike:

If the screen shot I pasted below makes it through, then you can see
"Multi level CTP" in lower right.
If not, then it is on the Part program: Part tab >>
Plants tab >> Detail tab
Check box is in the lower right corner of
the top Area.

I really do not know much about it - mostly it is for Running CTP
during Sales-Order-Entry, but I think it might come into plan woth MRP.


Len




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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997




Len,

Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome tomorrow.

We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
we are on 9.04.507 version.

Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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Of Len Hartka
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Good Day Mike:

Sun went live on 11/29/10
on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)

I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
very early dates:

Assuming Vantage is like E9.
1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
stop it.
2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
stocks came up with that date.
If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
to see how it is set.

3. Below is how we run MRP.
4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
parts).
Just to see if it acts the same.
5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
negative numbers, or corruption.
8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
upgrade problems.
9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
>>Detail screen

len.hartka@... <mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>
<mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>

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Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?

Best Regards

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
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Good Day Mike:

I forgot to say that we do not check it, but feel we will
should.


Len

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997




Good Day Mike:

If the screen shot I pasted below makes it through, then you can see
"Multi level CTP" in lower right.
If not, then it is on the Part program: Part tab >>
Plants tab >> Detail tab
Check box is in the lower right corner of
the top Area.

I really do not know much about it - mostly it is for Running CTP
during Sales-Order-Entry, but I think it might come into plan woth MRP.


Len




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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Len,

Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome tomorrow.

We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
we are on 9.04.507 version.

Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
<mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Good Day Mike:

Sun went live on 11/29/10
on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)

I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
very early dates:

Assuming Vantage is like E9.
1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
stop it.
2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
stocks came up with that date.
If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
to see how it is set.

3. Below is how we run MRP.
4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
parts).
Just to see if it acts the same.
5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
negative numbers, or corruption.
8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
upgrade problems.
9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
>>Detail screen

len.hartka@... <mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>
<mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>
<mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>

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Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?

Best Regards

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
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Len,



It looks like un-checking the "Allow Historical Dates" fixed the
problem. I ran a BAQ and didn't see a single suggestion job scheduled in
the past.

As far as the Multi Level CPT is concerned, it is possible they have
added that feature in 9.05 version, I checked every where for it could
not find it in 9.04.507.

Thank you so much for your help! I hope I can be of help to you or to
others in the group in the future.



Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@...



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Len Hartka
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997





Good Day Mike:

I forgot to say that we do not check it, but feel we will
should.


Len

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Of Len Hartka
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:41 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Good Day Mike:

If the screen shot I pasted below makes it through, then you can see
"Multi level CTP" in lower right.
If not, then it is on the Part program: Part tab >>
Plants tab >> Detail tab
Check box is in the lower right corner of
the top Area.

I really do not know much about it - mostly it is for Running CTP
during Sales-Order-Entry, but I think it might come into plan woth MRP.

Len

________________________________

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Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:00 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Len,

Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome tomorrow.

We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
we are on 9.04.507 version.

Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
<mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
<mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>

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Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

Good Day Mike:

Sun went live on 11/29/10
on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)

I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
very early dates:

Assuming Vantage is like E9.
1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
stop it.
2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
stocks came up with that date.
If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
to see how it is set.

3. Below is how we run MRP.
4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
parts).
Just to see if it acts the same.
5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
negative numbers, or corruption.
8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
upgrade problems.
9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
>>Detail screen

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Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997

After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem before?

Best Regards

Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager

Natel Engineering

9340 Owensmouth Ave

Chatsworth, CA 91311

mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
<mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
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Good Day Cooner:

First I want to clear up one thing. If you run MRP automatically,
then the Scheduled-Start-Date field has to be 'dynamic' = [TODAY]. I had
previously said to use today's date. but if you enter 5/21, it will
still be 5/21 four months from now.

I never got a clear idea of what the historical dates are except
that some Companies want to back schedule to the past because it allows
them to overload their shop instead of fixing all the dates.
Others let it back schedule to prevent it from forward scheduling
when it over loads work centers and then it starts suggesting a lot of
changes on sales orders or JOB's on the floor; or they allow back dating
to see how bad it is.

Short answer is, that, like many fields in E9 (V8), a few
'specialty" users want it so all must see the check box.

One thing I know it does NOT do, is affect what Part's are processed
in the MRP run, because even with "hist-Dates" checked, MRP will still
plan a part with a required date of any date in the past. It simply
prevents using that date - it uses today instead ( dependent on a few
other parameters.).


len.hartka@...

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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 2:59 PM
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Subject: [Vantage] Re: MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997




>un-checking the "Allow Historical Dates"
Just wondering if you ever found out why MRP wanted to set historical
dates? 1997 sounds so extreme.

Still using 8.03.409C.
In my case, most historical dates can be duplicated manually when I
backtrack from the due date on a sale order or job.
But, I do have a few examples of methods that just won't set dates
correctly (or do it differently) depending on the use of
forward/backward scheduling.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Mike Tonoyan" <mtonoyan@...> wrote:
>
> Len,
>
>
>
> It looks like un-checking the "Allow Historical Dates" fixed the
> problem. I ran a BAQ and didn't see a single suggestion job scheduled
in
> the past.
>
> As far as the Multi Level CPT is concerned, it is possible they have
> added that feature in 9.05 version, I checked every where for it could
> not find it in 9.04.507.
>
> Thank you so much for your help! I hope I can be of help to you or to
> others in the group in the future.
>
>
>
> Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.
>
> mtonoyan@...
>
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
> Of Len Hartka
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:43 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
>
>
>
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> I forgot to say that we do not check it, but feel we will
> should.
>
>
> Len
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Len Hartka
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:41 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> If the screen shot I pasted below makes it through, then you can see
> "Multi level CTP" in lower right.
> If not, then it is on the Part program: Part tab >>
> Plants tab >> Detail tab
> Check box is in the lower right corner of
> the top Area.
>
> I really do not know much about it - mostly it is for Running CTP
> during Sales-Order-Entry, but I think it might come into plan woth
MRP.
>
> Len
>
> ________________________________
>
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> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Mike Tonoyan
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 8:00 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Len,
>
> Thank you for the suggestions. I just resubmitted the MRP Process
> without Allow Historical Dates". I'll wait to see the outcome
tomorrow.
>
> We are having problems with "M" parts which contribute to wrong
> suggestion dates for "P" type. These parts were OK before the upgrade
> but I'll check the BOM's and MOM's. I could not see "Multi-Level-CPT",
> we are on 9.04.507 version.
>
> Mike Tonoyan / Natel Engr.
>
> mtonoyan@... <mailto:mtonoyan%40natelengr.com>
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>
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> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Len Hartka
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:33 PM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Subject: RE: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> Good Day Mike:
>
> Sun went live on 11/29/10
> on Epicor 9, 9.05.601B SQL-Unidata
> Sun was previously on M2K (Manage-2000) 7.0 SP 5 (Informix)
>
> I did not have the problem to that extent, but two thing did cause
> very early dates:
>
> Assuming Vantage is like E9.
> 1. We used to check "Allow historical dates". Un-checking it may
> stop it.
> 2. Someone typed 1/1/1910 in Scheduled-Start-Date -- all Safety
> stocks came up with that date.
> If you have MRP 'scheduled" to run, open it and look
> to see how it is set.
>
> 3. Below is how we run MRP.
> 4. Try running "Generate Suggestion" ( in E9 :: Matl-mangr >>
> Purch man >> Gen Op) instead of MRP ( its faster, but only does Purch
> parts).
> Just to see if it acts the same.
> 5. On the Part.Maint side, take one of the 'bad' parts and look
> for corrupted ( negative?) lead times.
> 6. Do you have the problem on both P and M type parts?
> M parts can get all involved in the MOM and the JOB
> scheduling and Shop loading if you use all that.
> 7. Related to 5 & 6, write a quick BAQ and show all the
> 'planning' parameters" - sort by each one and look for BIG numbers,
> negative numbers, or corruption.
> 8. What did the helpline say? They can often have answers for
> upgrade problems.
> 9. Does V8 have a "Multi-level-CTP" check-box on Part>>Plant
> >>Detail screen
>
> len.hartka@... <mailto:len.hartka%40sunautomation.com>
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>
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> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> Of Mike Tonoyan
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:40 PM
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> Subject: [Vantage] MRP process scheduling job to start in 1997
>
> After upgrading to Epicor 9.04.507 MRP Process is scheduling suggested
> jobs in the past, some even in 1997. Has anyone had this problem
before?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Mike Tonoyan / MIS Manager
>
> Natel Engineering
>
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