Major Symantec flaw reported

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I agree with Mark.

If you haven't tried Nod32 then chances are you really are missing the
best AV software out there.
According to their literature they score higher than all the rest for AV
work.

In my experience, at least comparing to Norton, they are right.
And speed wise comparing to Mcafee they are right.

In my opinion on slower computers and laptops it really shines.
If you have ever seen your PC's turn to molasses after Mcafee and
Norton, Nod32 will leave your PC peppy.
I used Mcafee on a laptop for 3 weeks until I couldn't take it any more.
(got it free from cable provider)
It made my 3.2 Ghz laptop slow down so bad, it drove me to distraction.

Since we installed Nod32 here, no problems at all.
This was not the case with Symantec on several occasions.

I tell our employees once your free Norton or Mcafee runs out at home,
switch to Nod32.





Mark Wonsil wrote:
> > Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
> > using Trend Micro's Corporate product?
>
> I dumped Symantec at the kids' school last year and replaced it with
> NOD32 by
> ESET. (www.eset.com) It's so much faster than NAV, well, anything is
> really,
> but it's been very good at the last few zero-day viruses. The enterprise
> version gets the updates and the clients update from a local mirror. I
> receive
> updates often, sometimes a couple of times a day.
>
> Mark W.
>
> P.S. Interesting view about anti-virus software in general:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=234
>
>
>


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Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.html

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates
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In case anyone cares, Symantec put out a response on their site:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/security/Content/2006.05.25.html

Robert Schmaltz
Metro Machine and Engineering


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Shirley Graver" <shirleyg@...> wrote:
>
> Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.
>
>
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.htm
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>
> Shirley Graver
> Rubber Associates
>
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Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
using Trend Micro's Corporate product?



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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Subject: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.



Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.html

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates





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We've used Trend for AV but now only use it for spam. We use and have
had really good experiences with McAfee. Except for one recent instance
that interrupted updates for 2 days on our workstations only (not
servers), we've learned to rely on it as a very dependable AV. Just our
experience. I've never had luck with Norton and never recommend it to
anyone. Again, just our experience.



Sue



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Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
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Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.html

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates





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I'm using Trend Server Protect on two servers, and PcCillin on the
workstations. I've always been a Trend advocate, regularly saying nasty
things about Symantec. I've not had any problems as long as management
stays out of config decisions.

Shirley Graver
Systems Administrator
Rubber Associates

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Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.html

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> Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
> using Trend Micro's Corporate product?

I dumped Symantec at the kids' school last year and replaced it with NOD32 by
ESET. (www.eset.com) It's so much faster than NAV, well, anything is really,
but it's been very good at the last few zero-day viruses. The enterprise
version gets the updates and the clients update from a local mirror. I receive
updates often, sometimes a couple of times a day.

Mark W.

P.S. Interesting view about anti-virus software in general:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=234
8
I'm fairly impressed with the way Symantec handled the situation. The
information about the vulnerability was made public last week. I went to
Symantec's website the following day and they had a link with information
about security flaw. Their site marked the vulnerability as unconfirmed -
not unreasonable - they probably found out about it the same way everyone
else did - news sites or "word of mouth".

Viewing the site yesterday, they have marked the vulnerability as
"confirmed". I believe they already have patches posted. Our server
retrieves updates automatically - I'll wait for the patch to roll down - all
of our clients update from the server, too.

While it was a critical flaw (remote execution of code with system-level
rights), they didn't try to cover up the situation and verified / fixed the
problem in a matter of days. How many months have Windows security flaws
gone before receiving a patch?


Chris Gitzlaff
Major Industries



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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Butler
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:24 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.


Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there using
Trend Micro's Corporate product?



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.
9
Bruce,

I did a poll of the group about a year ago. The result were:

Results Price/15 Users
Symantec 2 $420.00
Trend Micro 6 $258.00
MCAFEE -1 $180.00
CA eTrust 2 $455.40
ESET NOD32 2 $510.00

The ratings used a system of positive vs. negative and neutral responses,
adding or subtracting accordingly.
The prices were based on a renewal of Symantec vs. new purchase for the
others, and was found from various sources. It is also a year old, so
combined, the prices might not be of much value. That being said, Symantec
and MCAFEE both had some negative response as well as positive.
I hope this is of some value to you, but it might be time for a renewed
vote.

Based on the above, I did purchase Trend (to replace Symantec), and will add
my vote to the positive for Trend (negative for Symantec) as it has been
quietly doing it's job for the last year without any significant management
from me. I will also be renewing our use of Trend based on it's performance
in just a couple weeks.

Good luck,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Bruce Butler
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:24 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.


Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
using Trend Micro's Corporate product?



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.
10
We're using their Neat Suite. It's been a great product for us.



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To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.



Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
using Trend Micro's Corporate product?



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:43 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.



Just a heads up in case anyone missed it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/internet/05/25/antivirus.flaw.ap/index.html

Shirley Graver
Rubber Associates





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Aaron,


This is perfect reinforcement.



Thanks,



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:46 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [OT] Tend Micro - was - [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw
reported.



Bruce,

I did a poll of the group about a year ago. The result were:

Results Price/15 Users
Symantec 2 $420.00
Trend Micro 6 $258.00
MCAFEE -1 $180.00
CA eTrust 2 $455.40
ESET NOD32 2 $510.00

The ratings used a system of positive vs. negative and neutral
responses,
adding or subtracting accordingly.
The prices were based on a renewal of Symantec vs. new purchase for the
others, and was found from various sources. It is also a year old, so
combined, the prices might not be of much value. That being said,
Symantec
and MCAFEE both had some negative response as well as positive.
I hope this is of some value to you, but it might be time for a renewed
vote.

Based on the above, I did purchase Trend (to replace Symantec), and will
add
my vote to the positive for Trend (negative for Symantec) as it has been
quietly doing it's job for the last year without any significant
management
from me. I will also be renewing our use of Trend based on it's
performance
in just a couple weeks.

Good luck,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Bruce Butler
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:24 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Major Symantec flaw reported.


Just more ammo for my consideration of Trend Micro. Anybody out there
using Trend Micro's Corporate product?



Bruce Butler

IT Manager

Knappe & Koester, Inc.




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