Inactive and obsolete tooling

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Found it...learn something every day. Thanks

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Winter, Patrick
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling



Version 6.1 - Part Master - Right above where you check , Track Lots,
Part Rev Tracking, etc...

Patrick Winter

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Greg Clauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling

I don't see this on version 6.10. Is this 'run out' feature new on 8.x?

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling

> Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
> a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
> other when the stock is exhausted...?

one thing to be clear on is that you can only run out a Part and not a
Part
Revision.

> Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

IIRC, you can still receive parts from a PO or Job, you just get the
message
if you try to create a PO or Job.

> This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

The two features are separate but seem to work well together. The Run
Out
prevents new orders and if you have the substitution part in there, it
suggests it at order time.

Mark W.

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We are a custom aluminum caster and plastic molder that uses customer
owned tooling. As we haven't gone live yet, we are in process of
learning what the Epicor Vantage system can and can't do. One of the
issues we are struggling with is the control of tooling. The system
that we are coming from allows us to inactivate retired tooling which
allows us still to have visibility of of this customer owned tooling
but not allow us to accept an order against it. It also allows us to
obsolete the tooling when the tool is scrapped or returned to the
customer but still allows us visibility of this part number again
should someone try to place an order to it.
It appears Epicor only has an "inactive" button but according to Help
is not accessible if there is any product on hand. Just placing this
important info in a memo or comment won't stop us from accepting
orders. Does anyone else also have this issue. Any suggestions on how
you handle?
Comments appreciated,
Dave Fullerton
Le Sueur Incorporated
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> We are a custom aluminum caster and plastic molder that uses customer
> owned tooling. As we haven't gone live yet, we are in process of
> learning what the Epicor Vantage system can and can't do. One of the
> issues we are struggling with is the control of tooling. The system
> that we are coming from allows us to inactivate retired tooling which
> allows us still to have visibility of of this customer owned tooling
> but not allow us to accept an order against it. It also allows us to
> obsolete the tooling when the tool is scrapped or returned to the
> customer but still allows us visibility of this part number again
> should someone try to place an order to it.
> It appears Epicor only has an "inactive" button but according to Help
> is not accessible if there is any product on hand. Just placing this
> important info in a memo or comment won't stop us from accepting
> orders. Does anyone else also have this issue. Any suggestions on how
> you handle?

Check the Run-out feature. When a part's Run Out flag is set, you can't
place an order for it. When used in tandem with the Substitution part, it
will suggest a different part number.

Mark W.
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Mark,

Your last comment has got my attention...

Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
other when the stock is exhausted...?

Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

Nick


--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Wonsil" <mark_wonsil@...> wrote:
>
> > We are a custom aluminum caster and plastic molder that uses
customer
> > owned tooling. As we haven't gone live yet, we are in process of
> > learning what the Epicor Vantage system can and can't do. One of
the
> > issues we are struggling with is the control of tooling. The
system
> > that we are coming from allows us to inactivate retired tooling
which
> > allows us still to have visibility of of this customer owned
tooling
> > but not allow us to accept an order against it. It also allows us
to
> > obsolete the tooling when the tool is scrapped or returned to the
> > customer but still allows us visibility of this part number again
> > should someone try to place an order to it.
> > It appears Epicor only has an "inactive" button but according to
Help
> > is not accessible if there is any product on hand. Just placing
this
> > important info in a memo or comment won't stop us from accepting
> > orders. Does anyone else also have this issue. Any suggestions on
how
> > you handle?
>
> Check the Run-out feature. When a part's Run Out flag is set, you
can't
> place an order for it. When used in tandem with the Substitution
part, it
> will suggest a different part number.
>
> Mark W.
>
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I shudder at the thought, but might you be better of treating your tooling as individual (finite) resources called for in the Op details?

As tooling is obsoleted (or returned to the customer) you could simply set its resource calendar to zero capacity.

Before going this route, really think through the long term data maintenance implications.

Rob

--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Dave Fullerton <dfullerton@...> wrote:
From: Dave Fullerton <dfullerton@...>
Subject: [Vantage] Inactive and obsolete tooling
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 1:57 PM











We are a custom aluminum caster and plastic molder that uses customer

owned tooling. As we haven't gone live yet, we are in process of

learning what the Epicor Vantage system can and can't do. One of the

issues we are struggling with is the control of tooling. The system

that we are coming from allows us to inactivate retired tooling which

allows us still to have visibility of of this customer owned tooling

but not allow us to accept an order against it. It also allows us to

obsolete the tooling when the tool is scrapped or returned to the

customer but still allows us visibility of this part number again

should someone try to place an order to it.

It appears Epicor only has an "inactive" button but according to Help

is not accessible if there is any product on hand. Just placing this

important info in a memo or comment won't stop us from accepting

orders. Does anyone else also have this issue. Any suggestions on how

you handle?

Comments appreciated,

Dave Fullerton

Le Sueur Incorporated
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> Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
> a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
> other when the stock is exhausted...?

one thing to be clear on is that you can only run out a Part and not a Part
Revision.

> Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

IIRC, you can still receive parts from a PO or Job, you just get the message
if you try to create a PO or Job.

> This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

The two features are separate but seem to work well together. The Run Out
prevents new orders and if you have the substitution part in there, it
suggests it at order time.

Mark W.
7
I don't see this on version 6.10. Is this 'run out' feature new on 8.x?

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling



> Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
> a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
> other when the stock is exhausted...?

one thing to be clear on is that you can only run out a Part and not a
Part
Revision.

> Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

IIRC, you can still receive parts from a PO or Job, you just get the
message
if you try to create a PO or Job.

> This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

The two features are separate but seem to work well together. The Run
Out
prevents new orders and if you have the substitution part in there, it
suggests it at order time.

Mark W.






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>
> I don't see this on version 6.10. Is this 'run out' feature new on 8.x?
>

I started on 8.03, so I couldn't tell you. It's on the Part Maintenance
screen along with Use Part Rev, Serialize, etc.

Mark W.
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FYI: Run out is back here on 5.2 so must be there in 6.1 also.


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Greg Clauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling

I don't see this on version 6.10. Is this 'run out' feature new on 8.x?

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling



> Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
> a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
> other when the stock is exhausted...?

one thing to be clear on is that you can only run out a Part and not a
Part
Revision.

> Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

IIRC, you can still receive parts from a PO or Job, you just get the
message
if you try to create a PO or Job.

> This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

The two features are separate but seem to work well together. The Run
Out
prevents new orders and if you have the substitution part in there, it
suggests it at order time.

Mark W.






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Version 6.1 - Part Master - Right above where you check , Track Lots,
Part Rev Tracking, etc...



Patrick Winter



From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Greg Clauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:03 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling



I don't see this on version 6.10. Is this 'run out' feature new on 8.x?

________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf
Of Mark Wonsil
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:30 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Inactive and obsolete tooling

> Are you suggesting that you can set the run-out option together with
> a substitution part, and then have Vantage flip over from one to the
> other when the stock is exhausted...?

one thing to be clear on is that you can only run out a Part and not a
Part
Revision.

> Does this take into account parts on PO's...?

IIRC, you can still receive parts from a PO or Job, you just get the
message
if you try to create a PO or Job.

> This might be really useful to us if it works...!?

The two features are separate but seem to work well together. The Run
Out
prevents new orders and if you have the substitution part in there, it
suggests it at order time.

Mark W.

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