How to Fill a "Loosely" configured Part without screwing up inventory and without configurator

So Picture it… Sicily 1912
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Let me build a little scenario and see if someone can come up with a clever solution because we’ve come up with a bunch and we hate them all.

We are fulfilling orders for a customer who sells a couple specific combinations of products

Kit / FG 1
2 Bottles
1 Accessory

As such we’ve crafted these nifty little packaging (we are a packaging company after all) that fits the two bottles perfectly in a die cut tray with a little hole in the middle of the accessory. Something like this (red square being the outside confines of the box)
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Now the customer also sometimes sells a “smaller” Kit that is just 2 bottles and for that we use the same size shipping box but we swap out the middle tray with one that just has the holes for the 2 bottles like this.
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So as a whole we have 2 potential combinations of product (or 2 finished goods)

FG 1

  • Bottle 1
  • Bottle 2
  • Accessory
  • Shipper Box
  • Die Cut Tray

FG2

  • Bottle 1
  • Bottle 2
  • Shipper Box
  • Die Cut Tray

Now we are guaranteeing that the customer will sell some FG1 and FG2 so we go ahead and Manufacture FG1 and FG2 to stock a few hundred units. As orders come in we ship from stock all is well that ends well.

Except the customer has setup the store in such a way that someone can purchase FG2 plus the accessory separately. This Sales order comes in with 2 Lines
Line 1: FG2
Line 2: Accessory

Now when we go to fulfil this we have a conundrum, if we ship FG2 + Accessory separately shipping cost increases cause we have to package FG2 and the accessory separately in a new (bigger) box. But it is silly because really FG2 + Accessory is just the same as FG1 which fits neatly in its shipping box.

Now we could Pick / Pack and Ship FG1 with this order physically, but Epicor expects us to ship FG2 + Accessory which throws our inventory into dissaray.

We could tell our material handlers, to pick FG2 + Accessory , disassemble the Tray of FG2 and replace it with a new tray (swap the die cut tray) and place Accessory in the Box… however that would mean consuming 1 extra Die Cut tray from inventory without accounting for it.

So… what to do… we are looking at using Kits instead of FG, that allows us to build kits with all the components as individual pickable items but again we’d have to either include both trays and not use one of them, or find some other mechanism to determine which instance to use which tray.

We could do Build to Order on these but again the order comes in from their system as 2 separate line items, we’d have to have someone manually create a “Pack Assembly” job of some sort and swap out the parts (not sustainable)

Does anyone have any magical ideas?

One of the bigger issues we have here is that we inventory the Shipper Boxes and the Die Cut Trays we have to special order these and so we need to inventory track them. If we could just overhead not care about these then the solution to the problem is fairly simple.

I’d only have two parts. The bottles, and the accessory.

Have a cheap filler piece (maybe with a logo) that fills the void in one type of tray.

An order for Fg1 you pack the accessory, fg2, you leave in the filler piece.

As for the rest, I got nothing really.

So this is something we considered basically 1 tray with always a hole in the middle we can leave empty (it looks like shit) we could try like push tab or something like that where its not cut unless we push through.
But at this point we are sitting on hundreds of trays we’ve purchased and we need to get through the inventory before we consider a re-design.

We did however just have the conversation about going to a Single Tray Model assume the customer agrees… after all packaging is all about looks and experience.

Yeah, I was hoping you weren’t that far along. That changes things a bit doesn’t it?

I do like the push in/fold idea.

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Yeah we started filling orders a couple of weeks ago, “we” (the collective we customer and us) didn’t think about the possibility of someone purchasing accessory outside the FG1 Kit… but alas customers wanted to buy it…(which is kid of dumb its way more expensive than just buying FG1 but… hey its their money I guess)
Never the less here we are 2 Line order for essentially 1 product.

Le sigh

We also had a conversation with our customer about maybe making that combo of FG2 + A another single SKU in their system call it FG3 which we would then use something like Alternate Part to map over to FG1 in Epicor and TADA!!!

But our customer rightly said that Accessory in the future can be one of many accessories to pick from so he’d have to create a SKU for each possible combination which is :nauseated_face:

You literally took the words out of my mouth with the fg3.

Go to bed.

Though I just had a thought… it ins’t fully formed… but what if we had

Botle 1 + Botle 2 (FG1)
Accessory (FG2)

Shipper Box + Tray (FG3) as a re-configurable KIT (where you can swap a component at ship time…)

So you’d get the Shipper and the tray as its own Finished Good… I’m not sure how I would know to swap it… but maybe… :thinking:

That’s basically what I said in the first post. Maybe a little more fleshed out you could make something workable.

Food for thought… I’ll sleep on it… Thanks @klincecum GO TO BED!

Also come on @timshuwy I know you have some ideas here you’ve done crazier things!!! :rofl:

How the he’ll you’d do that efficiently in Epicor or on the floor is way outside my expertise though :smile:

Right, I mean I can “Force” FG3 on all orders that come from this customer easily enough… I’m just not sure how do I tell the picker to pick the right Die Cut Tray… ARG!!

I Hate It Trash GIF by SpongeBob SquarePants

Hopefully you go through those quick and get a consolidated part soon!

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No magical sleep epiphanies :cry:

I think you’d stock the subassemblies without the accessory and then the final part would be adding or not adding the accessory.

Thinking out loud here. I’ll re-read.

Right but issue is that adding the accessory requires swapping out the Insert Dye Cut Tray which is inventoried.

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Is it possible to make the die-cut tray “flippable?” One orientation for two bottles and flip it for three?

What modules do you have to help manage this?

I don’ follow, Its a Square CardBoard with either 2 holes or 3 holes I’m not sure how flipping it would work I’d have to get a more visual explanation.

We own pretty much anything and everything Epicor ERP has we have an enterprise license from configurator to the sdk take your pick. I haven’t found anything that fits yet though

Configurator would but this is an integration EDI style and so no configurator is really possible

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