> I may get burned but all new PCs here, praying they will be "future ready"for V8.0 are
So has anyone tried testing v8 on a "minimum" spec PC? That is a PIII-600
with 512MB if I recall correctly.
Brian
So has anyone tried testing v8 on a "minimum" spec PC? That is a PIII-600
with 512MB if I recall correctly.
Brian
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
I may get burned but all new PCs here, praying they will be "future ready" for V8.0 are:
3Ghz P4 on 400Mhz bus
1GB RAM
80GB disk
128MB video (Geforce FX5200 type)
10/100/1000 NIC (currently on 100Mb switches)
Licensed for XP-Pro loaded with Win2K-Pro for now.
If Vantage 8.0 needs more than this on the clients we may have to freeze at 6.10.
Data Collection PCs will be the last upgraded and will be whatever is least expensive at the time but will run. Our current DC PCs are Celeron 300-500Mhz with 64MB RAM and 2GB disks and handle DC just fine.
I think the Xeon cache difference is mainly an issue for servers and server OS configs relying on multi-threading. Shouldn't be an issue for clients so I'd go with whatever is cheaper.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3Ghz P4 on 400Mhz bus
1GB RAM
80GB disk
128MB video (Geforce FX5200 type)
10/100/1000 NIC (currently on 100Mb switches)
Licensed for XP-Pro loaded with Win2K-Pro for now.
If Vantage 8.0 needs more than this on the clients we may have to freeze at 6.10.
Data Collection PCs will be the last upgraded and will be whatever is least expensive at the time but will run. Our current DC PCs are Celeron 300-500Mhz with 64MB RAM and 2GB disks and handle DC just fine.
I think the Xeon cache difference is mainly an issue for servers and server OS configs relying on multi-threading. Shouldn't be an issue for clients so I'd go with whatever is cheaper.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Cache is the fastest memory a system has, so it should perform better.
Frank Zeigafuse
Innovative Office Products
General Manager
Direct Phone: 610-559-6369
Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Email: fzeigafuse@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:33 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
Yahoo! Groups Links
<www.LCDarms.com> -- Ergonomic mounting solutions for monitors and keyboards
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Mitchell,
Xeon's are optimized for multi-processing in a multi-processor environment.
Therefore, Xeon's are typically used in servers (which perform multiple
tasks simultaneously) and high-powered workstations (which need to do
complex math on large data sets). While the extra cache in a Xeon could
improve performance, it depends greatly on the application being used. I
don't think it would do much for Vantage and/or be worth the extra cost. We
have a dual 3.0 GHz Xeon server and P4's in our clients.
Dan Snyder
IT Manager
Mercury Electronics
717-854-9557 ext.224
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
I may get burned but all new PCs here, praying they will be "future ready"
for V8.0 are:
3Ghz P4 on 400Mhz bus
1GB RAM
80GB disk
128MB video (Geforce FX5200 type)
10/100/1000 NIC (currently on 100Mb switches) Licensed for XP-Pro loaded
with Win2K-Pro for now.
If Vantage 8.0 needs more than this on the clients we may have to freeze at
6.10.
Data Collection PCs will be the last upgraded and will be whatever is least
expensive at the time but will run. Our current DC PCs are Celeron
300-500Mhz with 64MB RAM and 2GB disks and handle DC just fine.
I think the Xeon cache difference is mainly an issue for servers and server
OS configs relying on multi-threading. Shouldn't be an issue for clients so
I'd go with whatever is cheaper.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX
Xeon's are optimized for multi-processing in a multi-processor environment.
Therefore, Xeon's are typically used in servers (which perform multiple
tasks simultaneously) and high-powered workstations (which need to do
complex math on large data sets). While the extra cache in a Xeon could
improve performance, it depends greatly on the application being used. I
don't think it would do much for Vantage and/or be worth the extra cost. We
have a dual 3.0 GHz Xeon server and P4's in our clients.
Dan Snyder
IT Manager
Mercury Electronics
717-854-9557 ext.224
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Todd Caughey
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:19 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
I may get burned but all new PCs here, praying they will be "future ready"
for V8.0 are:
3Ghz P4 on 400Mhz bus
1GB RAM
80GB disk
128MB video (Geforce FX5200 type)
10/100/1000 NIC (currently on 100Mb switches) Licensed for XP-Pro loaded
with Win2K-Pro for now.
If Vantage 8.0 needs more than this on the clients we may have to freeze at
6.10.
Data Collection PCs will be the last upgraded and will be whatever is least
expensive at the time but will run. Our current DC PCs are Celeron
300-500Mhz with 64MB RAM and 2GB disks and handle DC just fine.
I think the Xeon cache difference is mainly an issue for servers and server
OS configs relying on multi-threading. Shouldn't be an issue for clients so
I'd go with whatever is cheaper.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Hardware Specs Ver 8
Given the previous emails should I care about the differences between a Xeon
or a standard P-4 processor with the same front side bus and memory?
The Xeon has a 2MB L2 cache while the P-4 has a 1MB L2 cache. Its all
"Geek" to me. :-)
The PC's in question run will run Vantage 8 a year from now and the usual
Office type apps.
Mitchell Kirby
Riten Industries, Inc.
740-333-8719 Direct
800-338-0027 Sales
800-338-0717 FAX