Gaylord / Supersack Tare for Weight Parts

Hey all – we are a plastics recycling company. Our only UOM is weight as we buy plastic pellets, regrind, powder, etc. and process it.

The material always comes in packaging of gaylords (75 lbs) or supersacks (40 lbs). However, in Kinetic it seems like you can only input net weight.

If a truckload of 36 gaylord boxes came into our facility and we weigh each one – does anyone have a solution how to calculate the gross, tare, net? On the scale it will show gross weight of 1475 lbs but in Kinetic you can only input the net weight on the receiver (1400) and I don’t want my team having to manually calculate that.

How do people handle needing the all 3: gross, tare, net values for inputs?

I don’t know that there’s a baked-in solution for this… but I would think a relatively simple customization could handle it.

You can set up various Package Codes (that functionality is there) which includes a field for Tare Weight.

I’m thinking you could create/set up a drop down field on Receipt Entry where the user selects the Package Type.

A second custom field (textbox) where they enter the Gross Weight.

Then you’d add an on-blur event on the Gross Weight field that subtracts the tare weight from the selected Package Code from the user entered Gross Weight and spits the value into the “Our Quantity” field on Receipt Entry.

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Perfect I love that yes – I think that is what we will have to do. There is a whole module for packaging (which I know is mainly for BLs) but you can input Gaylord with tare and dimensions, etc. and we can pull that data into the Receipt Entry.

Would also need on the MES / Jobs as well as material is processed and inputted into packaging but I think you’re right it’s just some input fields we need to add.

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Just a side note, I find this interesting, as we are also in plastics.

We use the same terminology, with vastly different meaning. (also pellets) For us:

  • gaylord → big cardboard box, about 4’ x 4’ x 4’, 1100lbs - 1500lbs
  • supersack → big nylon bag with a dispenser on the bottom, probably 1500lbs to 3000lbs

I guess it might be related to how people will measure with what they know.

I think @josecgomez posted this one once before:

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How do you handle gross, tare, net with plastic pellets usually arriving or leaving in packaging? Seeing as Kinetic by default just has net.

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I was thinking the same thing. I’m on the extruder OEM side currently, but use to work for a plastics compounder and Supersacs were typically around 2,000 - 3,000 lbs. But that was for glass fibers, mineral fillers (talc, calcium, TiO2 etc.).

But since she’s in the recycling world… ground up materials have a greatly varying bulk density. So, very possible a large volume supersac could carry less overall weight.

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Yep, we make film.

Sorry Abby, didn’t mean to hijack your thread. :wink:

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Yes he did.

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The one where Kennedy was shot?!

Oh, you said extruder.

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Ok guys, let’s help Abby out:

Yeah on average each gaylord holds 1500-2000 lbs of plastic pellets. But the weight of the gaylord + Pallet and gaylord + supersack is 75 lbs and 40 lbs respectively. Sorry if that wasn’t clear :sweat_smile: so we want to be able to note gross, tare, net. Which we can probably build out but seeing @klincecum if you all do it any differently handling pellets.

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Ahh, well now we are on the same page! :rofl:

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I’d have to ask. While I’ve certainly had my hands in it at some point, unless it’s broken, I don’t mess with it, so I don’t recall.

Actually, we are plastic injection molding and I’m pretty sure we send gaylords of pellets out for recycling… Do you have a presence in the Great Lakes Area?

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We are nationwide – collect industrial plastic scrap from a range of manufacturers and process it back as a raw material. Always looking for more business opportunities if you want to send email we can get setup! I may have some other specific question about setting up a plastic operation. We are in our implementation phase now and coming across some interesting scenarios …

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Well, welcome to the forums, by the way. Nice to see the plastics industry well represented.

We’re always happy to help… if we can stay focused long enough.

newfamily

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Are you using Purchase Orders to receive materials and use AP to pay for materials? Or do you just collect and process?

Yes we send POs and buy the excess, off-grade, scrap material and will pay for it via AP.

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And do you ever sell that processed material back to the same “suppliers?”

Yes in certain cases we can process the scrap in a way that it is reusable again as a new raw material.