I will be attending. However, it is expensive for a conference and getting
there ain't cheap. I am flying out of the Chicago area and the cost is
$440.00 and I am flying on a Saturday, thereby saving almost $200.00 just
for airfaire. I also registered for the conference when it was still
$995.00.
I have always found the conferences to be very informative, very benefical
to talk to other Vantage users etc.
Epicor should consider holding conferences in a easily reachable location.
A place that lots of airlines, trains, buses get to many times a day, not
just twice a day like Palm Springs is.
A users conference held in the Chicagoland area would be well attended, easy
to get to, probably relatively lots of inexpensive flights, two airports and
lots of places to hold conferences as well as lots of interesting
attractions. I will grant holding a users conference in this area in
January or February will not allow alot of sun sports, but holding it in
anytime from May - October would be great.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:06 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Views
I've always found the conferences to be very beneficial-meeting the Vantage
people as well as all of the other users, plus the session materials are a
handy reference.
I too am very disappointed with the location this year-even though the hotel
cost is nearly the same (wasn't it $169 at Caesar's last year?), and even
though I will drive since it is only 120+ miles, for people not based in
Southern California, it looked like a hardship from the get-go. Other large
organizations (SHRM - the society of human resource managers) have their
conferences where the largest number of "members" -- read users - can
attend for the least amount of hassle and air fair.
Flying in to Palm Springs from other parts of the country is just
impractical
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From: Eddy, Warren [mailto:warren.eddy@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:13 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference -
Views
This will be my first Vantage conference, however, in the past our company
has sent several persons. Due to the nearly doubled (I'm told) fee and the
high cost of hotel/travel the decision was made to only send one person. If
the conference cost and hotel/travel would be more reasonable I'm fairly
certain we would be sending more than one person.
Warren Eddy
National Tube Form LLC
warren.eddy@...
219 478-2363 ext 217
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:03 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Views
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I have always found the conferences to be a bargain in terms of education.
Most of the sessions and especially the workshops offer almost all of the
material of the full day classes but at a much faster pace. Classroom
training usually bores the heck out of me and seems to drag on-and-on
whereas the conference sessions give me enough hints and ideas to figure
things out for myself. On top of this there is the session notes book which
I refer to often all year long. Finally the #1 benefit is actually meeting
people face to face and discussing issues much as on this board but in
real-time. In terms of value to the company I describe it to our VP-Finance
as the best education bang for the buck we can get.
That said, I am deeply disappointed at the location this year and the
incredible arrogance of Epicor to book it at a place that costs $185 a
night. Most of their clientele are very cost conscious manufacturing
operations. To top it off the hotel is now booked solid for the night of
the 16th and they are sending people 3-1/2 miles away to a sister property
(Rancho Las Palmas). Someone miscalaculated the turnout plus the vendors &
exhibitors. This time of year Las Vegas is also expensive (highest season
throughout Southwest I was told) so it would not have been much better. I
would like to see a return to late-April or May and at least move it back to
Las Vegas if not somewhere more central in North America. I'm sure it saves
Epicor a lot of airfare to be so close to their HQ but this is a "user"
conference after all. I'm flying in-out of Las Vegas and driving down for
half the cost of flying to Palm Springs and the money I save on Wednesday
night at the Marriott Desert Springs will pay for three nights in Las Vegas.
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Woodbury, MN
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:15 PM
To: Oneliste (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Registration
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Since we have been live on vantage for a year now, I've never been to this
users conference. I was looking forward to it but I've looked at the course
description and it does seem to me that this seminar is not worth +2000$
U.S. (not including airfare)? I think this will be a very hard sell to my
boss. Does anybody go to these conferences? How do you see the return on
investment?
Renaissance Esmerelda Resort, (800)468-3571, $185 per night
Marriott Las Palmas Resort , (800)468-3571, $185 per night
Miramonte Resort, (800)237-2926, $185 per night
Indian Wells Resort, (800)248-3220, $149 per night
The conference fee is $1,095, which includes entrance to all sessions, labs
and trade shows, as well as a reception on Sunday night; breakfast, lunch, a
Martin Nijdam (Jr. Ing.)
Suss Woodcraft Int'l
(514) 363-3565
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there ain't cheap. I am flying out of the Chicago area and the cost is
$440.00 and I am flying on a Saturday, thereby saving almost $200.00 just
for airfaire. I also registered for the conference when it was still
$995.00.
I have always found the conferences to be very informative, very benefical
to talk to other Vantage users etc.
Epicor should consider holding conferences in a easily reachable location.
A place that lots of airlines, trains, buses get to many times a day, not
just twice a day like Palm Springs is.
A users conference held in the Chicagoland area would be well attended, easy
to get to, probably relatively lots of inexpensive flights, two airports and
lots of places to hold conferences as well as lots of interesting
attractions. I will grant holding a users conference in this area in
January or February will not allow alot of sun sports, but holding it in
anytime from May - October would be great.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lydia Coffman [mailto:lcoffman@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 10:06 AM
To: vantage@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Views
I've always found the conferences to be very beneficial-meeting the Vantage
people as well as all of the other users, plus the session materials are a
handy reference.
I too am very disappointed with the location this year-even though the hotel
cost is nearly the same (wasn't it $169 at Caesar's last year?), and even
though I will drive since it is only 120+ miles, for people not based in
Southern California, it looked like a hardship from the get-go. Other large
organizations (SHRM - the society of human resource managers) have their
conferences where the largest number of "members" -- read users - can
attend for the least amount of hassle and air fair.
Flying in to Palm Springs from other parts of the country is just
impractical
-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy, Warren [mailto:warren.eddy@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 6:13 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference -
Views
This will be my first Vantage conference, however, in the past our company
has sent several persons. Due to the nearly doubled (I'm told) fee and the
high cost of hotel/travel the decision was made to only send one person. If
the conference cost and hotel/travel would be more reasonable I'm fairly
certain we would be sending more than one person.
Warren Eddy
National Tube Form LLC
warren.eddy@...
219 478-2363 ext 217
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:03 AM
To: 'vantage@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Views
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I have always found the conferences to be a bargain in terms of education.
Most of the sessions and especially the workshops offer almost all of the
material of the full day classes but at a much faster pace. Classroom
training usually bores the heck out of me and seems to drag on-and-on
whereas the conference sessions give me enough hints and ideas to figure
things out for myself. On top of this there is the session notes book which
I refer to often all year long. Finally the #1 benefit is actually meeting
people face to face and discussing issues much as on this board but in
real-time. In terms of value to the company I describe it to our VP-Finance
as the best education bang for the buck we can get.
That said, I am deeply disappointed at the location this year and the
incredible arrogance of Epicor to book it at a place that costs $185 a
night. Most of their clientele are very cost conscious manufacturing
operations. To top it off the hotel is now booked solid for the night of
the 16th and they are sending people 3-1/2 miles away to a sister property
(Rancho Las Palmas). Someone miscalaculated the turnout plus the vendors &
exhibitors. This time of year Las Vegas is also expensive (highest season
throughout Southwest I was told) so it would not have been much better. I
would like to see a return to late-April or May and at least move it back to
Las Vegas if not somewhere more central in North America. I'm sure it saves
Epicor a lot of airfare to be so close to their HQ but this is a "user"
conference after all. I'm flying in-out of Las Vegas and driving down for
half the cost of flying to Palm Springs and the money I save on Wednesday
night at the Marriott Desert Springs will pay for three nights in Las Vegas.
-Todd Caughey
Harvey Vogel Mfg. Co.
Woodbury, MN
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From: Martin Nijdam [mailto:martinn@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:15 PM
To: Oneliste (E-mail)
Subject: [Vantage] Epicor Perspectives Customer Conference - Registration
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Since we have been live on vantage for a year now, I've never been to this
users conference. I was looking forward to it but I've looked at the course
description and it does seem to me that this seminar is not worth +2000$
U.S. (not including airfare)? I think this will be a very hard sell to my
boss. Does anybody go to these conferences? How do you see the return on
investment?
Renaissance Esmerelda Resort, (800)468-3571, $185 per night
Marriott Las Palmas Resort , (800)468-3571, $185 per night
Miramonte Resort, (800)237-2926, $185 per night
Indian Wells Resort, (800)248-3220, $149 per night
The conference fee is $1,095, which includes entrance to all sessions, labs
and trade shows, as well as a reception on Sunday night; breakfast, lunch, a
Martin Nijdam (Jr. Ing.)
Suss Woodcraft Int'l
(514) 363-3565
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