Epicor 9 Non-Conformance question

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Thank you that makes a lot of sense and sounds like our process is backwards.


On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:39 AM, "Rob Bucek rbucek@... [vantage]" <vantage@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  
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  <div>The non-conformance process is meant as a means by which to raise a concern at the operations level, it does not necessarily confer that a problem exists.  The logic behind the basic quality system is a 3 part plan-do-act system.  Non-conformance is basically a way to raise your hand and say ‘I think I have a problem, please check it out’ as many times those raising awareness have neither the tools, knowledge, or authority to verify or disposition such assumptions.  The inspection process then takes it to the next step and allows those that do to confirm whether or not parts are conforming or non-conforming.  The third step, DMR is a disposition step whereby you determine what you will do with those parts, accept (nothing), reject (scrap), or operation/material (rework).


Rob Bucek
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Mobile: (715)896-3119
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Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9 Non-Conformance question



Question how Non-conformances work in Epicor 9. This is what the quality person sent me.

I’ve just created the following Non-conformance from a PO (Received Part). There was 15 pieces received and I accepted 14, rejected 1. The DMR (#3256) is only for 1 piece as you can see in the 2nd print screen below; however, the non-conformance has a quantity of 15 as if the complete shipment was rejected. This is the first non-conformance that I’ve ever checked after creating it from a PO# (Purchased part).

and then again here.

Here is one more example from an IR that was created on 2/24/15. Only 1 piece failed and 49 were accepted, yet the Non-conformance was for the full quantity (50 pieces).
We are trying to understand why the non-conformance is for the full quanity and not just the failed parts. Any info or documentation would be great.

Thanks Kim


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Question how Non-conformances work in Epicor 9.  This is what the quality person sent me.
 
I’ve just created the following Non-conformance from a PO (Received Part).  There was 15 pieces received and I accepted 14, rejected 1.  The DMR (#3256) is only for 1 piece as you can see in the 2nd print screen below; however, the non-conformance has a quantity of 15 as if the complete shipment was rejected.  This is the first non-conformance that I’ve ever checked after creating it from a PO# (Purchased part). 
 
and then again here.
 
Here is one more example from an IR that was created on 2/24/15.  Only 1 piece failed and 49 were accepted, yet the Non-conformance was for the full quantity (50 pieces).

We are trying to understand why the non-conformance is for the full quanity and not just the failed parts.  Any info or documentation would be great.

 
Thanks Kim
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The non-conformance process is meant as a means by which to raise a concern at the operations level, it does not necessarily confer that a problem exists. The logic behind the basic quality system is a 3 part plan-do-act system. Non-conformance is basically a way to raise your hand and say ‘I think I have a problem, please check it out’ as many times those raising awareness have neither the tools, knowledge, or authority to verify or disposition such assumptions. The inspection process then takes it to the next step and allows those that do to confirm whether or not parts are conforming or non-conforming. The third step, DMR is a disposition step whereby you determine what you will do with those parts, accept (nothing), reject (scrap), or operation/material (rework).

Rob Bucek
Production Control Manager
PH: (715) 284-5376 ext 311
Mobile: (715)896-3119
FAX: (715)284-4084
[cid:1.234354861@...]<http://www.dsmfg.com/>
(Click the logo to view our site)<http://www.dsmfg.com/>

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:00 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Epicor 9 Non-Conformance question



Question how Non-conformances work in Epicor 9. This is what the quality person sent me.

I’ve just created the following Non-conformance from a PO (Received Part). There was 15 pieces received and I accepted 14, rejected 1. The DMR (#3256) is only for 1 piece as you can see in the 2nd print screen below; however, the non-conformance has a quantity of 15 as if the complete shipment was rejected. This is the first non-conformance that I’ve ever checked after creating it from a PO# (Purchased part).

and then again here.

Here is one more example from an IR that was created on 2/24/15. Only 1 piece failed and 49 were accepted, yet the Non-conformance was for the full quantity (50 pieces).
We are trying to understand why the non-conformance is for the full quanity and not just the failed parts. Any info or documentation would be great.

Thanks Kim



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