Dont get me started on that!
You feel forced to upgrade and upgrade and upgrade to be on the latest version which has things broken in it which WERE working before and things fixed which were broken before.
Support instantly upgrade their software to the latest version so any faults reported become harder to diagnose because they are on a different version to you.
To me their way of updating they way the do is illogical. It's not just that, there is the extra expense for testing the latest versions, new servers for you to test it on, installation by Epicor on the new server, data conversion for the newer version, customisations to be written and tested for updated version, downtime etc etc.
Realistically the new version needs 2-4 weeks thorough testing on a test server before it can be integrated, then the live data has to be converted again.
I dont understand why they can't do what lots of other companies do. Release individual fixes for individual items to people who are on say 503B and make a fix for every fault and on-going faults.
Then for new customers sell them the package which is 503B butincorporate all of the fixes into the install.
To go from 503B to 505C is going to cost our company in the region of £10-15k which includes new 'test' server, downtime, Epicor to install, testing (our staff will have to stop their 'day job' to test and test the new version - which also adds overtime), fault finding in the new version, fault reporting in the new version, etc etc.
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From: Andrew Best <abest@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 14:02:55
Subject: RE: [Vantage] E9 Issues
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I have never heard or seen any issues with Time Phase in 8.00 or 8.03, but we have had issues with allocated amounts on trackers. Epicor kept telling us it was fixed in the next patch. Now everything is fixed 9, but it sounds like this issue has gotten worse. If Time Phase is incorrect, our business processes will become very inefficient.
What frustrates me is that Epicor keeps steering customer, almost forcing customers, to transition to their latest software when they have known issues.
Regards,
Andrew Best
Kice Industries, Inc.
P(316)744-7151
F(316)295-2412
From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] E9 Issues
We've had this exact same problem. It happened about 6 weeks ago too.
By any chance are you starting to stock take or have you just stock taken for your year end?
We have started stocktaking for our year end (jan 2010). When we have been stocktaking we have noticed the figures are incorrect when compared with each other.
We have ran the conversion and it has corrected it, but like I say, this is the second time it has happened in in 5 months.
Its obviously a bug.
I have reported it and have also requested that an alert is written to inform us when it startes happening (ie when the two figures stop balancing).
Has anyone else had this?
Please let me know how you get on.
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From: Mark Wonsil <mark_wonsil@ yahoo.com <mailto:mark_ wonsil%40yahoo. com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thu, 7 January, 2010 15:48:36
Subject: RE: [Vantage] E9 Issues
(truncated the BI since I could), started the database and the main server,
ran 6430, again while nobody was on, and waited until this morning. So far,
so good.
Mark W.
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You feel forced to upgrade and upgrade and upgrade to be on the latest version which has things broken in it which WERE working before and things fixed which were broken before.
Support instantly upgrade their software to the latest version so any faults reported become harder to diagnose because they are on a different version to you.
To me their way of updating they way the do is illogical. It's not just that, there is the extra expense for testing the latest versions, new servers for you to test it on, installation by Epicor on the new server, data conversion for the newer version, customisations to be written and tested for updated version, downtime etc etc.
Realistically the new version needs 2-4 weeks thorough testing on a test server before it can be integrated, then the live data has to be converted again.
I dont understand why they can't do what lots of other companies do. Release individual fixes for individual items to people who are on say 503B and make a fix for every fault and on-going faults.
Then for new customers sell them the package which is 503B butincorporate all of the fixes into the install.
To go from 503B to 505C is going to cost our company in the region of £10-15k which includes new 'test' server, downtime, Epicor to install, testing (our staff will have to stop their 'day job' to test and test the new version - which also adds overtime), fault finding in the new version, fault reporting in the new version, etc etc.
________________________________
From: Andrew Best <abest@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 14:02:55
Subject: RE: [Vantage] E9 Issues
Â
I have never heard or seen any issues with Time Phase in 8.00 or 8.03, but we have had issues with allocated amounts on trackers. Epicor kept telling us it was fixed in the next patch. Now everything is fixed 9, but it sounds like this issue has gotten worse. If Time Phase is incorrect, our business processes will become very inefficient.
What frustrates me is that Epicor keeps steering customer, almost forcing customers, to transition to their latest software when they have known issues.
Regards,
Andrew Best
Kice Industries, Inc.
P(316)744-7151
F(316)295-2412
From: vantage@yahoogroups .com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 7:10 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] E9 Issues
We've had this exact same problem. It happened about 6 weeks ago too.
By any chance are you starting to stock take or have you just stock taken for your year end?
We have started stocktaking for our year end (jan 2010). When we have been stocktaking we have noticed the figures are incorrect when compared with each other.
We have ran the conversion and it has corrected it, but like I say, this is the second time it has happened in in 5 months.
Its obviously a bug.
I have reported it and have also requested that an alert is written to inform us when it startes happening (ie when the two figures stop balancing).
Has anyone else had this?
Please let me know how you get on.
____________ _________ _________ __
From: Mark Wonsil <mark_wonsil@ yahoo.com <mailto:mark_ wonsil%40yahoo. com> >
To: vantage@yahoogroups .com <mailto:vantage% 40yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Thu, 7 January, 2010 15:48:36
Subject: RE: [Vantage] E9 Issues
> We just started seeing this since the New Year. I ran 6430 today andwithin
> minutes, the Part Tracker and Time Phase values are wrong, i.e. the part'sdocumentation
> warehouse QOH does not total the bin QOH. I'm just getting the
> together to open a ticket.Epicor suggested that I restart the appServers. So I shutdown the database,
(truncated the BI since I could), started the database and the main server,
ran 6430, again while nobody was on, and waited until this morning. So far,
so good.
Mark W.
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