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And do your guys clock in and out of jobs frequently? I wouldn't be
surprised if your Labor tables were huge as well.



For a company with over 250 user licenses, this almost makes sense!



This actually might be normal.







M. Manasa Reddy

manasa@... <mailto:manasa@...>

800.852.2325

630.806.2000 ofc

630.806.2001 fax

www.weldcoa.com

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Of Milton, Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:47 AM
To: Vic Drecchio; vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: DB Size





Yeah, we are a heavy transaction shop with 250 users on 8.03.407. We
actually have single orders with 2K to 4K parts or orders with a few
parts with up to 4000 releases. We have about 1.4 million records in
parttran. Chglog is only about 43K records.

From: Vic Drecchio [mailto:Vic.Drecchio@...
<mailto:Vic.Drecchio%40TIMCO.aero> ]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc: Milton, Joe
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: DB Size

WHAT???!!!

Vantage 8 or 8.03? WOW.....

Something certainly is wrong. I just queried the patchfld table on my
box and it has 31K rows. I'm on ver 8.03.408B.

67GB? Do you have changelogs that are filling up the chglog table? I
have about 880K rows in chglog and I've been up on Vantage for almost 2
yrs.

Growing by 2.5GB per week? How many users? How large is PartTran? Are
you a heavy transaction company??

I've seen a lot of SQL Vantage customers and I've never seen or heard
anything like that before....

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Behalf
Of jmilton59
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size

We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on
MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and
our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found
that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to
what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema
changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30
million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is over
12.7 gig in size.

We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth
and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to
the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the
potential impact that will have on performance.

We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space.
But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of
the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are
always open to tips or suggestions that might help.

Joe

Joe Milton, CISSP
Senior Programmer
Pratt Corporation
jmilton@... <mailto:jmilton%40prattcorp.com>
<mailto:jmilton%40prattcorp.com>

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Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks we'll give that a try
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:
>
> > Jose,
> >
> > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> >
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> >
> > <
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> > >When
> > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> >
> > --
> > Randy Weber
> > weber.randy@...
> > (651) 263-1811
> >
> > http://randallweber.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running
Epicor
> > for
> > > 2
> > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we
are
> > > missing
> > > or is this normal??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Jose C Gomez
> > >
> > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor for 2
years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are missing
or is this normal??


Thanks

Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com


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Our database is over 5 GB after just over 2 years.

Troy

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: June-21-10 8:43 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] DB Size



It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor for 2
years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are missing
or is this normal??

Thanks

Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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We're SQL and running almost 2 yrs with a database size of 9GB.







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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Troy Richman
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:46 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] DB Size





Our database is over 5 GB after just over 2 years.

Troy

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: June-21-10 8:43 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: [Vantage] DB Size

It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor
for 2
years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
missing
or is this normal??

Thanks

Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com

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Hmm I guess is normal then..

Just out of curiosity I just dumped the tables out to see where the bulk of
the data was and I found it is in sysactivitylog at 700MB with the rest of
the tables being under 100 each.

Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...>wrote:

>
>
> We're SQL and running almost 2 yrs with a database size of 9GB.
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Troy Richman
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:46 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] DB Size
>
>
> Our database is over 5 GB after just over 2 years.
>
> Troy
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> vantage%40yahoogroups.com <vantage%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> vantage%40yahoogroups.com <vantage%2540yahoogroups.com>> ] On
>
> Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: June-21-10 8:43 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: [Vantage] DB Size
>
> It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor
> for 2
> years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
> missing
> or is this normal??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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We have 6 d1 files allocated 1GB each and it hasnt tried to start on a 7th yet.

When we do a backup, the backup is usually now about 5GB in it's compressed state.

We have been live for 10 months now.

Sometimes we get a backup file which goes to 9GB then it drops back down to 4/5gb - does anyone else have this issue?

Thanks,




________________________________
From: Jose Gomez <jose@...>
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 21 June, 2010 17:58:54
Subject: Re: [Vantage] DB Size

Hmm I guess is normal then..

Just out of curiosity I just dumped the tables out to see where the bulk of
the data was and I found it is in sysactivitylog at 700MB with the rest of
the tables being under 100 each.

Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Vic Drecchio <vic.drecchio@...>wrote:

>
>
> We're SQL and running almost 2 yrs with a database size of 9GB.
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Troy Richman
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:46 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] DB Size
>
>
> Our database is over 5 GB after just over 2 years.
>
> Troy
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> vantage%40yahoogroups.com <vantage%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> vantage%40yahoogroups.com <vantage%2540yahoogroups.com>> ] On
>
> Behalf Of Jose Gomez
> Sent: June-21-10 8:43 AM
> To: Vantage
> Subject: [Vantage] DB Size
>
> It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor
> for 2
> years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
> missing
> or is this normal??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>


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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:13 AM, Chris Thompson <chriselectrix@...> wrote:

> We have 6 d1 files allocated 1GB each and it hasnt tried to start on a 7th yet.
>
> When we do a backup, the backup is usually now about 5GB in it's compressed state.
>
> We have been live for 10 months now.
>
> Sometimes we get a backup file which goes to 9GB then it drops back down to 4/5gb - does anyone else have this issue?
>

Do you notice that it's smaller after you truncate the BI file?

Mark W.
Jose,

If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf

<http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf>When
we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.

--
Randy Weber
weber.randy@...
(651) 263-1811

http://randallweber.com/


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:

>
>
> It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor for
> 2
> years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
> missing
> or is this normal??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks we'll give that a try
Sincerely
Jose C Gomez

http://www.josecgomez.com


On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:

> Jose,
>
> If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
>
> http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf
>
> <
> http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf
> >When
> we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
>
> --
> Randy Weber
> weber.randy@...
> (651) 263-1811
>
> http://randallweber.com/
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor
> for
> > 2
> > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
> > missing
> > or is this normal??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Jose C Gomez
> >
> > http://www.josecgomez.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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>
>
>
>


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We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30 million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is over 12.7 gig in size.

We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the potential impact that will have on performance.

We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space. But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are always open to tips or suggestions that might help.

Joe

Joe Milton, CISSP
Senior Programmer
Pratt Corporation
jmilton@...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks we'll give that a try
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:
>
> > Jose,
> >
> > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> >
> > http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf
> >
> > <
> > http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dgr/dgr.pdf
> > >When
> > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> >
> > --
> > Randy Weber
> > weber.randy@...
> > (651) 263-1811
> >
> > http://randallweber.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running Epicor
> > for
> > > 2
> > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we are
> > > missing
> > > or is this normal??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Jose C Gomez
> > >
> > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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>
We're running 8.03.408B on MSSQL 2005, up for almost two years. My
dbo.patchfld table has 8684 rows and is about 2MB. We've patched twice
I think since the initial install, and only once since going live.

My database is 4.5GB.

Seems like something is seriously wrong. Can you identify what the
bulk of the rows are storing?

-bws

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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jmilton59
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size

We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on
MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and
our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found
that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to
what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema
changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30
million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is
over 12.7 gig in size.

We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth
and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to
the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the
potential impact that will have on performance.

We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space.
But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of
the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are
always open to tips or suggestions that might help.

Joe

Joe Milton, CISSP
Senior Programmer
Pratt Corporation
jmilton@...

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks we'll give that a try
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:
>
> > Jose,
> >
> > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> >
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> >
> > <
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> > >When
> > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> >
> > --
> > Randy Weber
> > weber.randy@...
> > (651) 263-1811
> >
> > http://randallweber.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running
Epicor
> > for
> > > 2
> > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we
are
> > > missing
> > > or is this normal??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Jose C Gomez
> > >
> > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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The majority of it is related to sales tax info on the invchead and invcdtl tables. But to be fair we have entered 45,000 orders with 509,000 detail lines, 754,000 releases, over 70,000 part records. We have generated over 25,000 invoices with 698,000 invoice detail lines.

Joe

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Brian W. Spolarich " <bspolarich@...> wrote:
>
> We're running 8.03.408B on MSSQL 2005, up for almost two years. My
> dbo.patchfld table has 8684 rows and is about 2MB. We've patched twice
> I think since the initial install, and only once since going live.
>
> My database is 4.5GB.
>
> Seems like something is seriously wrong. Can you identify what the
> bulk of the rows are storing?
>
> -bws
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of jmilton59
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size
>
> We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on
> MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and
> our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found
> that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to
> what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema
> changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30
> million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is
> over 12.7 gig in size.
>
> We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth
> and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to
> the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the
> potential impact that will have on performance.
>
> We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space.
> But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of
> the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are
> always open to tips or suggestions that might help.
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Milton, CISSP
> Senior Programmer
> Pratt Corporation
> jmilton@...
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, Jose Gomez <jose@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks we'll give that a try
> > Sincerely
> > Jose C Gomez
> >
> > http://www.josecgomez.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@>wrote:
> >
> > > Jose,
> > >
> > > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
> r/dgr.pdf
> > >
> > > <
> > >
> http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
> r/dgr.pdf
> > > >When
> > > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Randy Weber
> > > weber.randy@
> > > (651) 263-1811
> > >
> > > http://randallweber.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running
> Epicor
> > > for
> > > > 2
> > > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we
> are
> > > > missing
> > > > or is this normal??
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > > Jose C Gomez
> > > >
> > > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
> must have
> > > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
> Builder and
> > > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> > > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
> have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
> and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
>
I don't have much invoice-related data in my patchfld table (see
below).

That said, my data volumes are at least an order of magnitude less
than yours, but still this sounds completely insane.

select tablename, fieldname, count(*) as count from dbo.patchfld group
by tablename, fieldname order by count desc

tablename fieldname count
-------------------------------- -------------------- -----------
JobOper WIName 1492
Customer ShipToTerrList 1175
OrderDtl POLine 922
InvcDtl POLine 825
APInvDtl TaxCatID 478
JobHead SchedSeq 470
PartWip FromOpCode 421
RMARcpt RequestMove 400
APChkGrp PostInProcess 378
NonConf RequestMove 331
RMADisp RequestMove 249
OrderRel PrevReqDate 226
OrderRel PrevNeedByDate 163
OrderDtl EnableCreateJob 112
PartWhse TFOAllocQty 109
JobAsmbl EstScrapType 97
JobAsmbl EstScrap 97
OrderRel PrevSellReqQty 88
CashHead DocDepApplied 83
OrderDtl CreateJob 67
OrderDtl EnableReleaseJob 67
JobHead WIName 45
Customer DmdCheckShipAction 43
OrderDtl EnableGetDetails 43
Customer DmdCheckForRevAction 43
OrderDtl EnableScheduleJob 43
LicUser ClientComputerName 42
LicUser ClientTerminalID 42
APInvDtl DocAdvPayAppliedAmt 28
InvcDtl TaxRegionCode 24
CheckHed FirstHeadNum 13
ShipTo DmdCheckShipAction 12
ShipTo DmdCheckForRevAction 12
OrderRel PrevShipToNum 8
TaxTran TempVendorTaxID 7
SchedPri MinimizeWIP 6
InvcHead DocDepApplied 4
Plant NextUnfirmTFLine 4
Plant NextUnfirmJob 4
XASyst StartOrderNum 3
ApSyst InvPerCheckStub 3
ApSyst ConsInvPmt 3
JobHead Forward 2
SysAgent ODBCPassWord 1
SysAgent ODBCUserID 1
ReportStyle OutputEDI 1

-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jmilton59
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size

The majority of it is related to sales tax info on the invchead and
invcdtl tables. But to be fair we have entered 45,000 orders with
509,000 detail lines, 754,000 releases, over 70,000 part records. We
have generated over 25,000 invoices with 698,000 invoice detail lines.
WHAT???!!!



Vantage 8 or 8.03? WOW.....



Something certainly is wrong. I just queried the patchfld table on my
box and it has 31K rows. I'm on ver 8.03.408B.



67GB? Do you have changelogs that are filling up the chglog table? I
have about 880K rows in chglog and I've been up on Vantage for almost 2
yrs.



Growing by 2.5GB per week? How many users? How large is PartTran? Are
you a heavy transaction company??



I've seen a lot of SQL Vantage customers and I've never seen or heard
anything like that before....



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jmilton59
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size





We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on
MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and
our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found
that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to
what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema
changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30
million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is over
12.7 gig in size.

We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth
and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to
the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the
potential impact that will have on performance.

We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space.
But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of
the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are
always open to tips or suggestions that might help.

Joe

Joe Milton, CISSP
Senior Programmer
Pratt Corporation
jmilton@... <mailto:jmilton%40prattcorp.com>

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , Jose
Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks we'll give that a try
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:
>
> > Jose,
> >
> > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> >
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> >
> > <
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> > >When
> > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> >
> > --
> > Randy Weber
> > weber.randy@...
> > (651) 263-1811
> >
> > http://randallweber.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running
Epicor
> > for
> > > 2
> > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we
are
> > > missing
> > > or is this normal??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Jose C Gomez
> > >
> > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yeah, we are a heavy transaction shop with 250 users on 8.03.407. We
actually have single orders with 2K to 4K parts or orders with a few
parts with up to 4000 releases. We have about 1.4 million records in
parttran. Chglog is only about 43K records.



From: Vic Drecchio [mailto:Vic.Drecchio@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:14 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Milton, Joe
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: DB Size



WHAT???!!!



Vantage 8 or 8.03? WOW.....



Something certainly is wrong. I just queried the patchfld table on my
box and it has 31K rows. I'm on ver 8.03.408B.



67GB? Do you have changelogs that are filling up the chglog table? I
have about 880K rows in chglog and I've been up on Vantage for almost 2
yrs.



Growing by 2.5GB per week? How many users? How large is PartTran? Are
you a heavy transaction company??



I've seen a lot of SQL Vantage customers and I've never seen or heard
anything like that before....



________________________________

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of jmilton59
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: DB Size





We are having a similar problem, but on a much larger scale. We are on
MS SQL with Vantage 8 and have been running for less than 2 years and
our database is 67 Gig and growing by 2 to 2.5 gig per week. We found
that the majority of the growth was in the patchfld table. According to
what Epicor has told us this table is used as a holding area for schema
changes between releases. Some holding area...right now we have over 30
million rows (yes you read that right...MILLION). That one table is over
12.7 gig in size.

We opened a ticket with Epicor asking for a way to control the growth
and was told they would work on a script for us, but we have resigned to
the fact that we will have to plan for the continued growth and the
potential impact that will have on performance.

We have run shrinks and index rebuilds which will reclaim some space.
But until Epicor releases the updates to move the schema changes out of
the patchfld table we are stuck with the continued growth. But we are
always open to tips or suggestions that might help.

Joe

Joe Milton, CISSP
Senior Programmer
Pratt Corporation
jmilton@... <mailto:jmilton%40prattcorp.com>

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , Jose
Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks we'll give that a try
> Sincerely
> Jose C Gomez
>
> http://www.josecgomez.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Randall Weber <weber.randy@...>wrote:
>
> > Jose,
> >
> > If you're using Progress, try a dump and load:
> >
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> >
> > <
> >
http://www.progress.com/progress/products/documentation/docs/database/dg
r/dgr.pdf
> > >When
> > we were on 6.1, we did this and performance increased significantly.
> >
> > --
> > Randy Weber
> > weber.randy@...
> > (651) 263-1811
> >
> > http://randallweber.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Jose Gomez <jose@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems like our DB is getting out of hand. We've been running
Epicor
> > for
> > > 2
> > > years and your DB is already 5 GB in size. Is there something we
are
> > > missing
> > > or is this normal??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Jose C Gomez
> > >
> > > http://www.josecgomez.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> > already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> > (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> > Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
> > (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> > (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/linksYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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