Creating Custom Modules

Brian,
I took the 4GL essentials class that progress offers. I primarily use
Progress for report writing with some simple interface design. I do all my
reporting with Progress now. I used the manuals that we had to get started
and had a good foundation going into the class. I thought the class was
worth the time and money. I had a good instructor and I thought the class
was well laid out. I'm not sure how useful Progress will be in the long
run, as far as Vantage is concerned, but I hope that I will be able to
continue writing reports in Progress into the next versions.

Bart Sgroi
Gray-Syracuse Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Stenglein [mailto:bstenglein@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


To all the programmers out there. I have a general question
regarding education as it pertains to creating customized
applications that involve Vantage data. I currently uses MS Access
for a lot of applications/reporting needs. I also know a little VB
and have a couple of apps in that. I am curious as to what I could
do if I learned some 4GL. I know Progress offers a 4 day 4GL
Essentials class to get people started. Has anyone taken that
class? Would I be able to use that language effectively without
having to purchase additional software? I remember Thad complaining
about how expensive it would be to purchase software necessary to
program in 4GL. Looking to the future, with Sonoma, I believe the
application will be written in .NET. Would that "OBSOLETE" the use
of 4GL for customizing Vantage? I would want to learn VB.Net to work
on future version of Vantage wouldn't I? I want to make sure I focus
future training into the areas that would be most effective in the
long run.

Thanks for any insight.

Brian Stenglein
Clow Stamping Co.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@b...> wrote:
> Since you are already an experienced programmer, just pick up a
copy of
> Progress Open Client and you can code your solution in just about
any
> language you want. It will create the Active X/Java bindings so
you can use
> your favorite language from there.
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> http://www.aspacia.com/ <http://www.aspacia.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@y...]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules
>
>
> I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
> I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features
that
> the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
> In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
> what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
> documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
> Thanks.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> > Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
> it, but I
> > know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Hi. I'm new to the vantage scene and I can't seem to find any
threads on the topic of creating custom modules for vantage. I'd
like to create an add-on module to do Human Resources for
Manufacturing. What programming language should I do this in? Where
can I find documentation or resources on this topic? If someone
could tell me the basics I could easily catch on. I am a very
experienced programmer with minor knowledge of all the details of
Vantage.

Thanks.
If that could be done - I'd be very interested too - especially for HR.
It'll be good to hear what ours are doing in regards to HR needs.

Julie Lehmann, MIS DIrector
MERCURY MINNESOTA INC.


----- Original Message -----
From: Zoran Zarkovic
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Creating Custom Modules


Hi. I'm new to the vantage scene and I can't seem to find any
threads on the topic of creating custom modules for vantage. I'd
like to create an add-on module to do Human Resources for
Manufacturing. What programming language should I do this in? Where
can I find documentation or resources on this topic? If someone
could tell me the basics I could easily catch on. I am a very
experienced programmer with minor knowledge of all the details of
Vantage.

Thanks.


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use it, but I
know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features that
the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
Thanks.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
it, but I
> know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Vantage is written in Progress.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@...]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features that
the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
Thanks.
Progress 4gl

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@...]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features that
the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
Thanks.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
it, but I
> know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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More specifically, it is written in Progress 4GL from Progress Software
Corporation (see http://www.progress.com/ <http://www.progress.com/> ).
Documentation can be found at
http://www.progress.com/v9/documentation/index.htm
<http://www.progress.com/v9/documentation/index.htm> . Education resources
can be found at http://web.progress.com/education/index.ssp
<http://web.progress.com/education/index.ssp> .

HTH.

Regards,
Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Podlin, Michael [mailto:michael.podlin@...]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:44 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules

Vantage is written in Progress.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@...]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features that
the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
Thanks.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Since you are already an experienced programmer, just pick up a copy of
Progress Open Client and you can code your solution in just about any
language you want. It will create the Active X/Java bindings so you can use
your favorite language from there.

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
http://www.aspacia.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@...]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:33 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features that
the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
Thanks.

--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
it, but I
> know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder and
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(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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To all the programmers out there. I have a general question
regarding education as it pertains to creating customized
applications that involve Vantage data. I currently uses MS Access
for a lot of applications/reporting needs. I also know a little VB
and have a couple of apps in that. I am curious as to what I could
do if I learned some 4GL. I know Progress offers a 4 day 4GL
Essentials class to get people started. Has anyone taken that
class? Would I be able to use that language effectively without
having to purchase additional software? I remember Thad complaining
about how expensive it would be to purchase software necessary to
program in 4GL. Looking to the future, with Sonoma, I believe the
application will be written in .NET. Would that "OBSOLETE" the use
of 4GL for customizing Vantage? I would want to learn VB.Net to work
on future version of Vantage wouldn't I? I want to make sure I focus
future training into the areas that would be most effective in the
long run.

Thanks for any insight.

Brian Stenglein
Clow Stamping Co.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@b...> wrote:
> Since you are already an experienced programmer, just pick up a
copy of
> Progress Open Client and you can code your solution in just about
any
> language you want. It will create the Active X/Java bindings so
you can use
> your favorite language from there.
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@y...]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules
>
>
> I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
> I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features
that
> the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
> In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
> what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
> documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
> Thanks.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> > Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
> it, but I
> > know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
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Brian,
I am signed up to take it next month....I will let you know
how valuable it is from a vantage standpoint. Currently, with the
help of Troy Funte, I have been able to code some export procedures
using Progress, and sending the files directly to access. It works
pretty well.
Progress also offers a number of self study courses that will help you
understand the basics of the 4GL and the database engine. For the record,
Sonoma will not be written entirely in .NET. The business logic is to be
encapsulated in Progress code a la Open Edge and the presentation layer
(read screens) will be built in .NET. Basically, .NET is the candy coated
goodness and Progress is the rich creamy middle.

Michael

Michael Barry
Aspacia Systems Inc
866.566.9600
312.803.0730 fax
http://www.aspacia.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Stenglein [mailto:bstenglein@...]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:07 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules


To all the programmers out there. I have a general question
regarding education as it pertains to creating customized
applications that involve Vantage data. I currently uses MS Access
for a lot of applications/reporting needs. I also know a little VB
and have a couple of apps in that. I am curious as to what I could
do if I learned some 4GL. I know Progress offers a 4 day 4GL
Essentials class to get people started. Has anyone taken that
class? Would I be able to use that language effectively without
having to purchase additional software? I remember Thad complaining
about how expensive it would be to purchase software necessary to
program in 4GL. Looking to the future, with Sonoma, I believe the
application will be written in .NET. Would that "OBSOLETE" the use
of 4GL for customizing Vantage? I would want to learn VB.Net to work
on future version of Vantage wouldn't I? I want to make sure I focus
future training into the areas that would be most effective in the
long run.

Thanks for any insight.

Brian Stenglein
Clow Stamping Co.



--- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Barry" <mbarry@b...> wrote:
> Since you are already an experienced programmer, just pick up a
copy of
> Progress Open Client and you can code your solution in just about
any
> language you want. It will create the Active X/Java bindings so
you can use
> your favorite language from there.
>
> Michael
>
> Michael Barry
> Aspacia Systems Inc
> 866.566.9600
> 312.803.0730 fax
> http://www.aspacia.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Zarkovic [mailto:zokiz@y...]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:33 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Vantage] Re: Creating Custom Modules
>
>
> I know that Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module, but
> I am interested in creating my own add-ons with certain features
that
> the third-party doesn't have and excluding some that we don't need.
> In any case thank you for your response. However, if anybody knows
> what programming language I should do this in or where I can find
> documentation or resources on creating custom modules please reply.
> Thanks.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com, sarah.vareschi@n... wrote:
> > Caesar Developments already has an add-on HR module. We don't use
> it, but I
> > know it's out there... Their wwebsite is www.caesardev.com
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You
must have
> already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
> (1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report
Builder and
> Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
> (2) To search through old msg's goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
> (3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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