Crash protection off

Thanks so much!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Cox [mailto:wmc@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:28 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crash protection off


At 01:55 PM 11/29/2001, you wrote:
>What is crash protection all about please?

Turning it off speeds up mass-updates, like schema changes and the other
stuff that runs when you upgrade. But, if something goes wrong, your DB is
hosed. You have to restore from backup and re run it. Dialing up a decent
amount of memory cache with the -B parameter will help Vantage upgrades
even more.

Here's the description from the Progress manual:

Use No Crash Protection (-i) to tell Progress to run without using database
integrity or database
recovery. When running Progress without database integrity, it writes fewer
data and
before-image blocks to the disk. In this mode, some Progress procedures
(such as those that
create and delete large numbers of records) run significantly faster than
if they are running with
database integrity.
When running Progress with the -i parameter, transaction undo is supported.
Therefore, there
will still be a before-image file, which might grow quite large during very
long transactions.
Use this parameter to do bulk data loading or for large batch runs. It
reduces the number of disk
input or output operations. Loading a database for the first time is a good
example of a use for
this parameter.
CAUTION: If you run Progress with the -i parameter and Progress fails for
any reason, you
cannot recover the database.
Progress Database Administration Guide and Reference
Do not use the -i parameter unless you have a complete backup of the
database and can rerun
procedures in case of a system failure. If the system fails during a
Progress session started
without crash protection, restore the backup copy and rerun the necessary
procedures. For
information on restoring a database, see Chapter 6, "Backing Up and
Restoring."

-WC




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Does anybody know off the top of their head where/how to turn crash
protection off in ProControl? If I remember right it is a -i in startup
parameters but I can't find it anywhere. This is for 4.0 by the way.

Thanks,

Rick
You won't find it in any 4.0 install guide. I just looked at a 3.0 guide
and you're right, it is "-i" in the startup parameters.

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Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com <http://www.chipsco.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Crash protection off

Does anybody know off the top of their head where/how to turn crash
protection off in ProControl? If I remember right it is a -i in startup
parameters but I can't find it anywhere. This is for 4.0 by the way.

Thanks,

Rick




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Thanks Terry. I just wanted somebody to confirm before I had to start over
for the 4th time.

Rick


> You won't find it in any 4.0 install guide. I just looked at
> a 3.0 guide and you're right, it is "-i" in the startup parameters.
What is crash protection all about please?

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Williams [mailto:tlw@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:27 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Crash protection off


You won't find it in any 4.0 install guide. I just looked at a 3.0 guide
and you're right, it is "-i" in the startup parameters.

Terry L. Williams I.S. Manager Chipsco, Inc. 9936 Liberty St. Ext.
Meadville, PA 16335 p.8143336331 x236 f.8143372548 tlw@...
<mailto:tlw@...> www.chipsco.com <http://www.chipsco.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:54 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Crash protection off

Does anybody know off the top of their head where/how to turn crash
protection off in ProControl? If I remember right it is a -i in startup
parameters but I can't find it anywhere. This is for 4.0 by the way.

Thanks,

Rick




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already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
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Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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At 01:55 PM 11/29/2001, you wrote:
>What is crash protection all about please?

Turning it off speeds up mass-updates, like schema changes and the other
stuff that runs when you upgrade. But, if something goes wrong, your DB is
hosed. You have to restore from backup and re run it. Dialing up a decent
amount of memory cache with the -B parameter will help Vantage upgrades
even more.

Here's the description from the Progress manual:

Use No Crash Protection (-i) to tell Progress to run without using database
integrity or database
recovery. When running Progress without database integrity, it writes fewer
data and
before-image blocks to the disk. In this mode, some Progress procedures
(such as those that
create and delete large numbers of records) run significantly faster than
if they are running with
database integrity.
When running Progress with the -i parameter, transaction undo is supported.
Therefore, there
will still be a before-image file, which might grow quite large during very
long transactions.
Use this parameter to do bulk data loading or for large batch runs. It
reduces the number of disk
input or output operations. Loading a database for the first time is a good
example of a use for
this parameter.
CAUTION: If you run Progress with the -i parameter and Progress fails for
any reason, you
cannot recover the database.
Progress Database Administration Guide and Reference
Do not use the -i parameter unless you have a complete backup of the
database and can rerun
procedures in case of a system failure. If the system fails during a
Progress session started
without crash protection, restore the backup copy and rerun the necessary
procedures. For
information on restoring a database, see Chapter 6, "Backing Up and Restoring."

-WC