This gets more fun each hour.
Is it even possible to fire a non conformance method with a BPM on a
Corrective action method or am I going to have to pull in Service connect to
get this job done?
~Charlie
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From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Larson
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
That is correct, the other does allow the creation of a corrective action
for other areas, internal audits, etc. The system also does allow multiple
corrective actions to be created from one non-conformance. This could be
the case where both the process was bad and the training was also bad
resulting in non-conforming materials. In this case two corrective actions
would be linked to the non-conformance.
Bruce Larson
alternative Technology Partners
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From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Charlie Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
According to our quality guy. In order to create a corrective action you
must have a non conformance. This being said we have been creating non
conformances of type "other" that aren't linked to a DMR in order to build
Corrective actions. So really there isn't a DMR associated with the Non
Conformance that needs to be closed.
~Charlie
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
The non conformance really shouldn't close until you've dispositions
(through DMR). Corrective Action doesn't do that... It just details long
term preventative actions in your quality system to avoid repeating
problems. (You are build a knowledge base of sorts).
Rob
________________________________
From: Charlie Wilson <foamdesigncsw@ <mailto:foamdesigncsw%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:09:05 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
All,
We are starting to use the Corrective Action / Non Conformance piece of
vantage more and more heavily.
We have noticed that when you close a Corrective action that the attached
Non-conformance stays open.
We would like the Non-conformance to be closed when we close the corrective
action. Has anyone tackled this issue?
~Charlie
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Is it even possible to fire a non conformance method with a BPM on a
Corrective action method or am I going to have to pull in Service connect to
get this job done?
~Charlie
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Bruce Larson
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:58 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
That is correct, the other does allow the creation of a corrective action
for other areas, internal audits, etc. The system also does allow multiple
corrective actions to be created from one non-conformance. This could be
the case where both the process was bad and the training was also bad
resulting in non-conforming materials. In this case two corrective actions
would be linked to the non-conformance.
Bruce Larson
alternative Technology Partners
Web Site:
<http://www.alttechp <http://www.alttechpartners.com/> artners.com/>
www.alttechpartners.com
Cell:
(763) 486-0030
Fax:
(858) 408-3429
Email:
bruce.larson@ <mailto:bruce.larson%40alttechpartners.com>
alttechpartners.com
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Charlie Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
According to our quality guy. In order to create a corrective action you
must have a non conformance. This being said we have been creating non
conformances of type "other" that aren't linked to a DMR in order to build
Corrective actions. So really there isn't a DMR associated with the Non
Conformance that needs to be closed.
~Charlie
_____
From: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com] On
Behalf Of
Robert Brown
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:16 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
The non conformance really shouldn't close until you've dispositions
(through DMR). Corrective Action doesn't do that... It just details long
term preventative actions in your quality system to avoid repeating
problems. (You are build a knowledge base of sorts).
Rob
________________________________
From: Charlie Wilson <foamdesigncsw@ <mailto:foamdesigncsw%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
To: vantage@yahoogroups <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> .com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:09:05 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Corrective action / Non Conformance BPM
All,
We are starting to use the Corrective Action / Non Conformance piece of
vantage more and more heavily.
We have noticed that when you close a Corrective action that the attached
Non-conformance stays open.
We would like the Non-conformance to be closed when we close the corrective
action. Has anyone tackled this issue?
~Charlie
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http://groups. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages>
yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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