I do not think you are being overly cautious. We will proceed much as
you are. For one, we just went live this year with 6.1 and the interface
is so different and more complicated, our users would hang us from the
highest pole. I like living and so will postpone an upgrade until 2007,
at least, if I can get away with it.
Thank you,
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Convert from Vantage 6.1 to 8.0
Aside from the mechanical issues of converting the data I am somewhat
perplexed by the number of people planning fairly fast upgrades. As if
this is a regular version upgrade like from 5.2 to 6.0/6.1. So I am
wondering if I am overplanning this and worrying too much. I have ball
parked our upgrade to take about a year and include a complete analysis
of which new feaures will benefit us, how to use them best in our
environment, how to train users and finally what customizations we want
to introduce at the time of live cutover. We are also anticipating the
impact on our ISO documentaiton and work instructions, our process flows
and possibly shop floor communication issues. Perhaps I am overly
fearful but right now I see this upgrade as a huge risk for negative
disruption to operations if it is not planned to a very high degree.
For the people who have received 8.0 and are not yet live (or perhaps
recently gone live):
1. How many months from receipt of 8.0 to "live" are you planning?
2. Are you "running out of the box" and customizing later or customizing
before going live?
3. How long is (was) your training for users?
4. How much "trouble" will/did the new interface present to users -
especially "office" tasks like order processing or job creation?
Thanks. Just curious if I am being overly cautious.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Dan Ernst
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:10 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Convert from Vantage 6.1 to 8.0
We are currently using Vantage 6.1 and have Vantage 8.0 installed on
our server. I would like to know if there is documentation out there
that will assist me into converting our database from 6.1 to 8.0 and a
process I need to take to set up Vantage 8.0 so I can get a test
account set up.
We want to set up a test account for Vantage 8.0 so we can get it
ready to go live in about 3 months. I realize any reports we created
in Report Builder will have to be recreated in Crystal.
Thanks
Dan Ernst
Computer Services
Correct Craft, Inc.
(407) 855-4141
http://www.correctcraft.com
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you are. For one, we just went live this year with 6.1 and the interface
is so different and more complicated, our users would hang us from the
highest pole. I like living and so will postpone an upgrade until 2007,
at least, if I can get away with it.
Thank you,
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:44 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Convert from Vantage 6.1 to 8.0
Aside from the mechanical issues of converting the data I am somewhat
perplexed by the number of people planning fairly fast upgrades. As if
this is a regular version upgrade like from 5.2 to 6.0/6.1. So I am
wondering if I am overplanning this and worrying too much. I have ball
parked our upgrade to take about a year and include a complete analysis
of which new feaures will benefit us, how to use them best in our
environment, how to train users and finally what customizations we want
to introduce at the time of live cutover. We are also anticipating the
impact on our ISO documentaiton and work instructions, our process flows
and possibly shop floor communication issues. Perhaps I am overly
fearful but right now I see this upgrade as a huge risk for negative
disruption to operations if it is not planned to a very high degree.
For the people who have received 8.0 and are not yet live (or perhaps
recently gone live):
1. How many months from receipt of 8.0 to "live" are you planning?
2. Are you "running out of the box" and customizing later or customizing
before going live?
3. How long is (was) your training for users?
4. How much "trouble" will/did the new interface present to users -
especially "office" tasks like order processing or job creation?
Thanks. Just curious if I am being overly cautious.
-Todd C.
-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
Of Dan Ernst
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:10 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Convert from Vantage 6.1 to 8.0
We are currently using Vantage 6.1 and have Vantage 8.0 installed on
our server. I would like to know if there is documentation out there
that will assist me into converting our database from 6.1 to 8.0 and a
process I need to take to set up Vantage 8.0 so I can get a test
account set up.
We want to set up a test account for Vantage 8.0 so we can get it
ready to go live in about 3 months. I realize any reports we created
in Report Builder will have to be recreated in Crystal.
Thanks
Dan Ernst
Computer Services
Correct Craft, Inc.
(407) 855-4141
http://www.correctcraft.com
Useful links for the Yahoo!Groups Vantage Board are: ( Note: You must
have already linked your email address to a yahoo id to enable access. )
(1) To access the Files Section of our Yahoo!Group for Report Builder
and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/.
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/messages
(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/links
SPONSORED LINKS
Manufacturing
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Manufacturing+software&w1=Manufactu
ring+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage+softw
are&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Database
+marketing+software&c=6&s=188&.sig=OG5F3819UOUOg63i0bu6kA> software
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ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
+software&w4=Pda+database+software&w5=Database+management+software&w6=Da
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ufacturing+software&w2=Membership+database+software&w3=Database+mortgage
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and Crystal Reports and other 'goodies', please goto:
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vantage/files/>
(2) To search through old msg's goto:
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(3) To view links to Vendors that provide Vantage services goto:
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