I am surprised with the lack of satisfaction with Bartender. I opted
for a different approach because of cost, but...
We used Code 39 on the traveler and anything printed from Crystal. If
you enable your scanner for extended code 39 you should be able to get
the additional characters (all our job numbers have two "-"s and they
all print and scan without modification).
I use a combination of Wasp Labeler, BPM to export a file with the data
I wish to print and a customization to print the label based on the BPM
having exported it's file. It's not as convenient as a built in product
and it does require calls to an external application, but it works like
a charm to automatically print labels based on transactions within
Vantage and it can be accomplished by anyone with minimal programming
background.
All that being said, I love Code128 because it scans so well and it's
barcodes are much shorter than equivalent Code 39 barcodes. Everything
I print from the Wasp Labeler is done with 128 because I can make it
large and it still fits on a label giving the ability to scan product
from several feet away.
Best of luck,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
Vic Drecchio wrote:
for a different approach because of cost, but...
We used Code 39 on the traveler and anything printed from Crystal. If
you enable your scanner for extended code 39 you should be able to get
the additional characters (all our job numbers have two "-"s and they
all print and scan without modification).
I use a combination of Wasp Labeler, BPM to export a file with the data
I wish to print and a customization to print the label based on the BPM
having exported it's file. It's not as convenient as a built in product
and it does require calls to an external application, but it works like
a charm to automatically print labels based on transactions within
Vantage and it can be accomplished by anyone with minimal programming
background.
All that being said, I love Code128 because it scans so well and it's
barcodes are much shorter than equivalent Code 39 barcodes. Everything
I print from the Wasp Labeler is done with 128 because I can make it
large and it still fits on a label giving the ability to scan product
from several feet away.
Best of luck,
Aaron Hoyt
Vantage Plastics
Vic Drecchio wrote:
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> Agreed. BarTender is far from plug-and-play and when I worked for
> Epicor, I tried to convince customers NOT to purchase it. If you can
> live with Code39's limitations, then do so. Otherwise, Code128/EAN etc,
> is a pain. However, many vendors, especially in Europe, are increasing
> their demands for supplier shipping compliance.
>
> It will require either remote or onsite consulting from Epicor's
> Advanced Solutions Group or a very savvy administrator with an
> expert-level knowledge of the system. And, once it is installed, you
> only have a handful of label definitions that Vantage can pump to
> BarTender.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf
> Of Bob Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: [Vantage] Code 128 Barcode
>
> Caution is advised re Bartender. We bought it thinking it was a
> straight plug-in...not so. It requires a lot of Epicor Consulting to
> hook it in. In view of the cost and the lack of a global interface
> to Vantage we bought it but keep it web-deployed and independent of
> Vantage.....it is used as a departmental tool for producing labels.
> To incorporate all of our custom labels each as an individual item to
> hook to Vantage was too cumbersome & expensive.
>
> We have not tackled the use of ODBC yet as we consider that an
> archane method of hooking to the database.
>
> We were also not delighted with the liscensing arrangement, it is by
> named printer with liscence fees per printer.
>
> Bar coding in Crystal is no picnic either...that's what led us to
> Bartender......our conclusion was that we stick with barcoded
> travellers by Vantage & all labels by departmental use of Bartender.
> We re-type the label info until we are rerady to bite the bullet on
> ODBC connection to the SQL Db.
>
> --- In vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vic
> Drecchio" <vic.drecchio@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bartender is a good solution for integration with Vantage/Vista and
> will
> > do 128 just fine. Otherwise, the Crystal add-in will work OK, too,
> but
> > I honestly cannot remember if the Crystal Viewer in Vantage will
> utilize
> > it?
> >
> > I loathe 128, too.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Todd Caughey
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:30 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: RE: RE: [Vantage] Code 128 Barcode
> >
> >
> >
> > No I guess it has never come up because nobody here has ever
> complained.
> > I can bet the * would present a problem in Code 39. If I can push
> the
> > whole issue off until after we are on 8.x (someday way off in the
> > future) it will be much easier to deal with using the Crystal add-in
> > when running against a BAQ generated XML file with the label info.
> By
> > then I might not be so averse to Code 128.
> > -Todd C.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of Jasper Recto
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:48 PM
> > To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:%27vantage%40yahoogroups.com> '
> > Subject: RE: RE: [Vantage] Code 128 Barcode
> >
> > Todd, we use code 39 but are looking into using Code 128 for one
> reason
> > only.
> >
> > We have part numbers that have lower and upper case letters, / ,\, -
> ,
> > and *. These characters will not translate properly.
> >
> > Have you problems with this? If so, have been able to get around
> this
> > issue?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jasper
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:vantage%
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> > On Behalf Of Todd Caughey
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:41 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: RE: [Vantage] Code 128 Barcode
> >
> > So far we have been able to dodge that bullet. Because of the
> internal
> > check digit calculations Code 128 is not as easy as a Code 39 font
> > substitution. Usually specialized software is required and for our
> > Report Builder based labeling that was not going to work. So far we
> have
> > gotten exemptions from all our customers asking for it....or done
> Code
> > 39 anyway and they might not even notice since most scanners will
> pick
> > that up too. If we ever have an absolute mandate to use it and the
> > customer is large enough I have a Crystal add-in that someone in
> this
> > group pointed me to that will generate the values needed to go with
> the
> > Code 128 font in order for it to scan correctly....sort of like the
> * in
> > Code 39 but more complicated. Until then I am resisting Code 128 as
> > strongly as I can.
> > -Todd C.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
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> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%
> 40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of melissa hietala
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:28 PM
> > To: vantage@yahoogroups.com <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:vantage%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Vantage] Code 128 Barcode
> >
> > Is anyone using the "Code 128" barcode? We are looking to use this
> > barcode in the near future, is there a way I can get this?
> > Thanks,
> > Dustin Biniek
> > DustinB@... <mailto:DustinB%40ultramc.com>
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