Changing Vantage Server IP Address

system · January 24, 2002, 3:38pm

The way I keep people from accessing the internet is to not pass DNS numbers
through the DHCP scope. For those who are allowed internet access I just
add the DNS numbers manually. It works very well here because people
generally don't know about those things or stay out of their configurations
(fearing the wrath of Rick of course!). If you have a bunch of computer
savvy users though, this won't work at all like the software solutions Dave
was suggesting.

Rick

system · January 23, 2002, 10:18am

Looking for a shortcut....

I need to change all IP address on my servers, Vantage
included, to accommodate a new T1 internet connection.
Something to do with Class of service from our ISP.

I know when installing Vantage Client on a workstation
I define the IP address of the Vantage server during
each install. Short of re-installing on all
workstations, does anyone know of a shortcut to this
problem. Seems that there should be a file on the
client or server somewhere the contains the server IP
address. Thought of the SERVICES file under WINDOWS
but that defines the port not the address.

I've got 184 workstation with Vantage loaded and I'd
really like to avoid having to re-install. HELP??!?!

Jim Zerfass
IT Mangager
Brenner, Inc.

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system · January 23, 2002, 10:39am

IP addresses are defined in the HOSTS file under Windows. You should just
be able to change it there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zerfass Jim [mailto:jimzerfass@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:18 AM
To: VantageGroup
Subject: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Looking for a shortcut....

I need to change all IP address on my servers, Vantage
included, to accommodate a new T1 internet connection.
Something to do with Class of service from our ISP.

I know when installing Vantage Client on a workstation
I define the IP address of the Vantage server during
each install. Short of re-installing on all
workstations, does anyone know of a shortcut to this
problem. Seems that there should be a file on the
client or server somewhere the contains the server IP
address. Thought of the SERVICES file under WINDOWS
but that defines the port not the address.

I've got 184 workstation with Vantage loaded and I'd
really like to avoid having to re-install. HELP??!?!

Jim Zerfass
IT Mangager
Brenner, Inc.

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system · January 23, 2002, 10:42am

Jim,

I don't know of a short cut from here, but you should be using Names instead
of IP addresses. You need to have DNS or WINS running and put static IP
addresses on your servers and use DHCP to assign IPs for you workstations.
This way, there would not have been anything to do except change the server
IPs and change the DHCP scope, release and renew the leases, and you would
have been done.

The only other thing I can think of at this time would be to dual NIC your
Vantage server. That might work.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Zerfass Jim [mailto:jimzerfass@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:18 AM
To: VantageGroup
Subject: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Looking for a shortcut....

I need to change all IP address on my servers, Vantage
included, to accommodate a new T1 internet connection.
Something to do with Class of service from our ISP.

I know when installing Vantage Client on a workstation
I define the IP address of the Vantage server during
each install. Short of re-installing on all
workstations, does anyone know of a shortcut to this
problem. Seems that there should be a file on the
client or server somewhere the contains the server IP
address. Thought of the SERVICES file under WINDOWS
but that defines the port not the address.

I've got 184 workstation with Vantage loaded and I'd
really like to avoid having to re-install. HELP??!?!

Jim Zerfass
IT Mangager
Brenner, Inc.

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system · January 23, 2002, 10:52am

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

system · January 23, 2002, 11:08am

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 23, 2002, 11:11am

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 23, 2002, 11:14am

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 23, 2002, 11:32am

Now that we have total control over our IP addresses this should never be an
issue again anyway. The hosts file only refers to servers and I don't plan
on adding any servers that would require an entry (like Vantage does). The
Vantage client setup creates (or modifies) the hosts file for the new client
PCs. But thanks for the suggestion.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 23, 2002, 11:42am

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system · January 23, 2002, 1:15pm

Gary,

I can't recall off hand, but I am looking for it. As soon as I find it I
will post it.
It's been a long time since I have used the HOSTS file. DHCP and DNS or
WINS
is just so much easier.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
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system · January 23, 2002, 2:13pm

For those of us that are network challenged, What does NAT stand for?

We are going to use a PRI T1 for our new telephone switch. Some of the
channels will be dedicated for internet access. Any particular pitfalls I
should be aware of?

Mitchell Kirby
m.kirby@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

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system · January 23, 2002, 2:21pm

Network Address Translation - For us it means we have one IP address for the
"world" and the firewall translates internal IP addresses (in the
192.168.xxx.xxx range) to this external and vice-versa. The 192.168 range
is non-routable so invisible outside of our LAN. If you do not have NAT or
some other firewall your are badly exposing all the computer on your LAN to
the whole Internet. You can do NAT (via Proxy Server) on the server but is
slower and not as robust as having a firewall do it. This topic can get
very "deep" quickly.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

For those of us that are network challenged, What does NAT stand for?

We are going to use a PRI T1 for our new telephone switch. Some of the
channels will be dedicated for internet access. Any particular pitfalls I
should be aware of?

Mitchell Kirby
m.kirby@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

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system · January 23, 2002, 3:09pm

Network Address Translation

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitchell Kirby [mailto:m.kirby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:12 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

For those of us that are network challenged, What does NAT stand for?

We are going to use a PRI T1 for our new telephone switch. Some of the
channels will be dedicated for internet access. Any particular pitfalls I
should be aware of?

Mitchell Kirby
m.kirby@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 10:13am

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 10:23am

Thanks Dave, and thank Rob for me. I do have DHCP and WINS. The reason I
wondered about this, is that I have quite a few static IP's assigned to W2K
workstations that are out where anyone could access them easily. To avoid
unauthorized internet use, I assigned a static IP to these W2K workstations
and gave them a bogus router IP address. Seemed like the simplest way out
at the time. Maybe there's a better way to handle that part.

Thanks for the legwork,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 10:31am

Would a Login.bat file referencing Delete/Copy.bat file so that when ever a
user logs in the next time they update their hosts file so not everyone
would have to be logged in at once work?

Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and
he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations
to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network
at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to
batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so
that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set
up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the
HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC
you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each
of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure.
With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have
a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing
scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't
show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 11:37am

Gary,

Do you use MS Proxy Server or ISA (Internet Security & Acceleration Server)?
You can block it for those machines with those products.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Thanks Dave, and thank Rob for me. I do have DHCP and WINS. The reason I
wondered about this, is that I have quite a few static IP's assigned to W2K
workstations that are out where anyone could access them easily. To avoid
unauthorized internet use, I assigned a static IP to these W2K workstations
and gave them a bogus router IP address. Seemed like the simplest way out
at the time. Maybe there's a better way to handle that part.

Thanks for the legwork,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 11:38am

Shirley,

I am sure that would work also.

Dave Cole

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley Graver [mailto:shirleyg@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:29 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Would a Login.bat file referencing Delete/Copy.bat file so that when ever a
user logs in the next time they update their hosts file so not everyone
would have to be logged in at once work?

Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and
he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations
to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network
at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to
batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so
that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set
up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the
HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC
you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each
of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure.
With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have
a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing
scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't
show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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system · January 24, 2002, 12:11pm

We're not using them. Are they stand-alone packages?

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 11:39 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

Do you use MS Proxy Server or ISA (Internet Security & Acceleration Server)?
You can block it for those machines with those products.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:23 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Thanks Dave, and thank Rob for me. I do have DHCP and WINS. The reason I
wondered about this, is that I have quite a few static IP's assigned to W2K
workstations that are out where anyone could access them easily. To avoid
unauthorized internet use, I assigned a static IP to these W2K workstations
and gave them a bogus router IP address. Seemed like the simplest way out
at the time. Maybe there's a better way to handle that part.

Thanks for the legwork,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:14 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Gary,

I talked to a network expert friend of mine (he teaches MCSE classes) and he
had the following to say:

Quote.

As far as your HOSTS file question, there's no way to point workstations to
a single HOSTS file, they each require their own. The only possible
solution I can think of is to make use of the administrative shares on the
workstations (assuming they're all NT based) and do the following:

Keep the "master" HOSTS file on a workstation or server. Write a .bat or
.cmd file that when run from the machine which contains a copy of the
"master" HOSTS file would 1.) go out and delete the HOSTS file from every
workstation on the network using the C$ share, and 2.) copy the "master"
hosts file out to all of the workstations to replace the deleted one.

In order for this to work all of the workstations must be on the network at
the time the batch file is run. I use a method similar to this one to batch
copy practice files for our end-user courses to the student machines so that
we don't have to copy files one machine at a time for every class we set up.

Unquote.

The preceding from Rob Jaramillo, ExecuTrain Indianapolis.

If you need it, Rob said he could send me a sample of this batch file.

I was mistaken, it is the LMHOSTS file that you can use an include file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Dave,

How do you work the pointing?

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD

-----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Dave [mailto:dave@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:12 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Todd,

If you are going to us static IP's and HOSTS files, you should set the HOSTS
files to point to one MASTER host file. That way, when you add a new PC you
only have to change one file.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Caughey [mailto:caugheyt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:08 AM
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

We did this exact thing. ISP assigned IP address to our firewall (as
opposed to dual NIC) and non-routable IP addresses everywhere internally.
Not using DHCP so when we IP'd each PC I popped in a diskette with a .BAT
routine to delete and copy in a new HOSTS file. Two of us going to each of
60 PCs took about 2hrs on a Sat. incl. boot-up/shutdown of each. Now we
will never run out of IP addresses and saved money with ISP bay having a
smaller range (4 numbers). And, as said, with NAT we are more secure. With
static IPs when someone calls and can't connect I can try to ping them and
have them check wires before leaving my desk.
-Todd C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 9:45 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Changing Vantage Server IP Address

Or similar to what Dave said with the dual NICs in the server, if you have a
firewall or proxy you could set up a NAT and keep your IP addressing scheme
the same internally and use the new IP addressing for the T1 externally.
That would require no changes at all except to configure the NAT. Anymore
this is the preferred way to do a connection anyway because it doesn't show
your internal IP addresses to the rest of the world and minimizes the ever
dwindling number of "real" IP addresses your ISP has to assign to you.

Rick

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