BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

system · January 30, 2014, 10:06am

Yes, it was introduced somewhere between 9.05.602 and 607A.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:04 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Iâ€™m on Vantage 8.03, not sure what â€œUpdate Masterâ€ is (Iâ€™m guessing itâ€™s a E9 thing)â€¦

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Englert
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:02 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Not sure what version youâ€™re on but, maybe UpdateMaster has taken Updateâ€™s place for that BO.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Joe, no. I simply assumed that since my user defined field Iâ€™m using (ShortChar01) is located in the GLAcct table and that particular table is the ONLY one that Iâ€™m updating with my customization, the GLAcct BO â€œshouldâ€ have been the right BO to work with. There arenâ€™t really any more when I look through the list of BOâ€™s I would think it should be. Nonetheless, as I said, it certainly isnâ€™t firing at all. Iâ€™m at a lossâ€¦..

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Englert
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Have you done a trace to make sure youâ€™re looking at the right bo/method?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

This is strange. It wonâ€™t even fire with a conditionless BPM. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Iâ€™m simply creating a BPM on the Update method directive of the the GLAcct Business Object. I then go into the Chart of Accounts dialog box, pull up an account, and change a description and save but this doesnâ€™t fire on either the PRE or POST processing messages I have setup. I KNOW the GLAcct table is the correct table I need but it acts like the BPM thinks it should be something else. Any ideas?????

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 28, 2014, 6:04pm

I’ve added a ComboBox customization to the Chart of Accounts setup dialog that is just a dropdown list that I want a mandatory selection made from when entering or updating a GL Acct. I assigned the CobmBox data to the ShortChar01 field in the GLAcct table. I then went to create a BPM on the update method of GLAcct that basically looks for a “” character in GlAcct.ShortChar01 (meaning no selection was made) and it SHOULD throw a message saying a selection needs to be made before the record can be updated. For some reason, no matter what I use in the BPM that references this GlAcct.ShortChar01 field, the BPM either isn’t working or doesn’t fire and always allows the record to be updated/saved. I’ve done similar BPM’s before using stock Vantage fields in different tables but never using a “user defined” variable and also never used GLAcct until now. Anyone know what my problem might be???

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...

system · January 29, 2014, 6:33am

Try using extended properties maintenance required and see if that helps

On Jan 28, 2014 6:04 PM, "Mike Abell" <mabell@...> wrote:

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I’ve added a ComboBox customization to the Chart of Accounts setup dialog that is just a dropdown list that I want a mandatory selection made from when entering or updating a GL Acct. I assigned the CobmBox data to the ShortChar01 field in the GLAcct table. I then went to create a BPM on the update method of GLAcct that basically looks for a “” character in GlAcct.ShortChar01 (meaning no selection was made) and it SHOULD throw a message saying a selection needs to be made before the record can be updated. For some reason, no matter what I use in the BPM that references this GlAcct.ShortChar01 field, the BPM either isn’t working or doesn’t fire and always allows the record to be updated/saved. I’ve done similar BPM’s before using stock Vantage fields in different tables but never using a “user defined” variable and also never used GLAcct until now. Anyone know what my problem might be???

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055

email: MAbell@…

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system · January 29, 2014, 5:07pm

Jose, where exactly is this selection? I see no “Extended Properties Maintenance” required.

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:33 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: Re: [Vantage] BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Try using extended properties maintenance required and see if that helps

On Jan 28, 2014 6:04 PM, "Mike Abell" <mabell@...> wrote:

I’ve added a ComboBox customization to the Chart of Accounts setup dialog that is just a dropdown list that I want a mandatory selection made from when entering or updating a GL Acct. I assigned the CobmBox data to the ShortChar01 field in the GLAcct table. I then went to create a BPM on the update method of GLAcct that basically looks for a “” character in GlAcct.ShortChar01 (meaning no selection was made) and it SHOULD throw a message saying a selection needs to be made before the record can be updated. For some reason, no matter what I use in the BPM that references this GlAcct.ShortChar01 field, the BPM either isn’t working or doesn’t fire and always allows the record to be updated/saved. I’ve done similar BPM’s before using stock Vantage fields in different tables but never using a “user defined” variable and also never used GLAcct until now. Anyone know what my problem might be???

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...

system · January 29, 2014, 5:10pm

Oh shoot didn't see you were on 8.x not available there sorry :(

Jose C Gomez

Software Engineer

T: 904.469.1524 mobile

E: jose@...
http://www.josecgomez.com

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Mike Abell <mabell@...> wrote:

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Jose, where exactly is this selection? I see no “Extended Properties Maintenance” required.

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose Gomez
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:33 AM
To: Vantage
Subject: Re: [Vantage] BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Try using extended properties maintenance required and see if that helps

On Jan 28, 2014 6:04 PM, "Mike Abell" <mabell@...> wrote:

I’ve added a ComboBox customization to the Chart of Accounts setup dialog that is just a dropdown list that I want a mandatory selection made from when entering or updating a GL Acct. I assigned the CobmBox data to the ShortChar01 field in the GLAcct table. I then went to create a BPM on the update method of GLAcct that basically looks for a “” character in GlAcct.ShortChar01 (meaning no selection was made) and it SHOULD throw a message saying a selection needs to be made before the record can be updated. For some reason, no matter what I use in the BPM that references this GlAcct.ShortChar01 field, the BPM either isn’t working or doesn’t fire and always allows the record to be updated/saved. I’ve done similar BPM’s before using stock Vantage fields in different tables but never using a “user defined” variable and also never used GLAcct until now. Anyone know what my problem might be???

Mike Abell

Information Technology Manager
Flexial - BOA Group - Cookeville, Tennessee
Office: 931.432.8408
Mobile: 615.418.3055
email: MAbell@...

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system · January 29, 2014, 7:17pm

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 30, 2014, 9:48am

This is strange.Â It wonâ€™t even fire with a conditionless BPM.Â Not sure what I am doing wrong.Â Iâ€™m simply creating a BPM on the Update method directive of the the GLAcct Business Object.Â I then go into the Chart of Accounts dialog box, pull up an account, and change a description and save but this doesnâ€™t fire on either the PRE or POST processing messages I have setup.Â I KNOW the GLAcct table is the correct table I need but it acts like the BPM thinks it should be something else.Â Any ideas?????

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 30, 2014, 9:51am

Have you done a trace to make sure youâ€™re looking at the right bo/method?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

This is strange. It wonâ€™t even fire with a conditionless BPM. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Iâ€™m simply creating a BPM on the Update method directive of the the GLAcct Business Object. I then go into the Chart of Accounts dialog box, pull up an account, and change a description and save but this doesnâ€™t fire on either the PRE or POST processing messages I have setup. I KNOW the GLAcct table is the correct table I need but it acts like the BPM thinks it should be something else. Any ideas?????

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 30, 2014, 9:58am

Joe, no.Â I simply assumed that since my user defined field Iâ€™m using (ShortChar01) is located in the GLAcct table and that particular table is the ONLY one that Iâ€™m updating with my customization, the GLAcct BO â€œshouldâ€ have been the right BO to work with.Â Â There arenâ€™t really any more when I look through the list of BOâ€™s I would think it should be.Â Nonetheless, as I said, it certainly isnâ€™t firing at all.Â Iâ€™m at a lossâ€¦..

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Englert
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Have you done a trace to make sure youâ€™re looking at the right bo/method?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

This is strange. It wonâ€™t even fire with a conditionless BPM. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Iâ€™m simply creating a BPM on the Update method directive of the the GLAcct Business Object. I then go into the Chart of Accounts dialog box, pull up an account, and change a description and save but this doesnâ€™t fire on either the PRE or POST processing messages I have setup. I KNOW the GLAcct table is the correct table I need but it acts like the BPM thinks it should be something else. Any ideas?????

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 30, 2014, 10:02am

Not sure what version youâ€™re on but, maybe UpdateMaster has taken Updateâ€™s place for that BO.

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:59 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Joe, no. I simply assumed that since my user defined field Iâ€™m using (ShortChar01) is located in the GLAcct table and that particular table is the ONLY one that Iâ€™m updating with my customization, the GLAcct BO â€œshouldâ€ have been the right BO to work with. There arenâ€™t really any more when I look through the list of BOâ€™s I would think it should be. Nonetheless, as I said, it certainly isnâ€™t firing at all. Iâ€™m at a lossâ€¦..

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Englert
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:52 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Have you done a trace to make sure youâ€™re looking at the right bo/method?

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Abell
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:48 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

This is strange. It wonâ€™t even fire with a conditionless BPM. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Iâ€™m simply creating a BPM on the Update method directive of the the GLAcct Business Object. I then go into the Chart of Accounts dialog box, pull up an account, and change a description and save but this doesnâ€™t fire on either the PRE or POST processing messages I have setup. I KNOW the GLAcct table is the correct table I need but it acts like the BPM thinks it should be something else. Any ideas?????

From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jckinneman@...
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] RE: BPM not firing on a user defined field - Vantage 8.03

Can you get a message to come up on the method wihtout trapping the UD field? For example a condition-less BPM that only has an action which is an informational message. If you can get that slowly work up to trapping the change on the UD field. Start by building a condition based on just the Rowmod, then add the condition on the UD field.

If things stop working post your condition code so we can take a look at it.

Jim Kinneman

Encompass Solutions, Inc

system · January 30, 2014, 10:04am