A valid Order/Line/Release is required. Will not let me create a Demand Link > Make To Order

I created my first three Sales Orders for Repair jobs. I learned today, that each of these orders needs a job linked to them. All three jobs are closed. So, I started with the first job and reopened the Sales Order, reopened the Line and reopened the Release.
I have images of these following steps attached.

  1. Open Sales Order 447292
  2. Notice: Line 1
  3. Notice: Release 1
  4. Right click on the Part and select Job Manager
  5. Create Job is grayed out. So, I create the job via Job Entry
    6 & 7. No Supply or Demand links show in Job Manager.
  6. So, I attempt to create the Demand Link > Make To Order. I enter 447292, 1, 1
  7. I get the error message: A valid Order/Line/Release is required.

How is it the number I entered is not valid? The Release is marked “Make Direct”.

Any help would be appreciated.

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  1. Can you show us how the Release tab looks like
  2. Instead of typing it when creating the link, can you use the button and search for it and select it.
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Hello hasokeric!
I appreciate your response.

  1. I have attached a screenshot of the Release tab.
  2. Neither search/select or typing works. I still get the error message.

Separate topic - not as important: Speaking of search/select. When I click on Order/Line/Rel…, the search box pops up. I type: 447292 and click on Search. I get no results. So, I click on New Search, then click on Search and I get results. Clicking on Search twice does nothing. I have to click on New Search THEN click Search again to get results. On top of that, It lists another item that has nothing to do with the Sales Order I searched. It just happens to be one I was working on previously. Its a weird behavior.

447292 Release.pdf (62.2 KB)
447292 Order Release Search.pdf (29.8 KB)

The only thing that stands out to me is make sure you have Need By Date and Ship By Date filled out in order to generate Demand.

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Assuming you changed your labels

Hi,

How did you ship the one when you didn’t have a job to make it?

Nancy

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It also throws this error if the shipment doesn’t have the same job number.

This Sales Order is for a Service Call. So, there is no shipments involved.

We ship service jobs that are created from Service Calls via Miscellaneous shipment entry. On the summary or header tab in the misc. shipment entry you can link the service job to to the shipment.

Once the shipment in complete we will go and close the service call and our manual process is to notify accounting so they can get closed Field service calls that are ready for invoicing.
The service job will have to open at the time you create the miscellaneous shipment (haven’t tried if the job is closed). The service job will then be closed when the service job is closed.

Is the sales order for a replacement part tied to the service call or to a case?

if you are not doing a shipment, would you need to use sales order entry? is anything going out of inventory?

I’m with @Nancy_Hoyt here, you have a shipped qty of 1, so something is up there. I imagine this could be taking up all of the demand.

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Not trying to distract from the FS discussion; we don’t use it here, but maybe it’s a better solution; maybe not. But as to the original question, I’d start with the shipment.

Ok, so I entered the order in the system on 5/17. So, per your suggestion, I went back in and entered 5/17 as the Promise Date and Expected Ship Date. However, it didn’t work. Notice the screenshot, I still cannot Create a Job via Job Manager like I normally can do.

Add the dates to the Release Line not Summary. Make sure Release has dates.

Ok, so I did that…


Then, I went back to Summary > Part > right click to Job Manager and it is still grayed out.
So, I went to Job Entry and created the Job from there, but when I try to link it to the Sales Order via Make To Order, it will not accept Order/Line/Rel…

So, I go back to the Summary > Part > right click to Job Manager and the Job appears, but of course there is no Demand Link. The Job is linked to the Part TSO-40000, but not to the Order 447292.

I’m guessing Accounts Receivable marked it ‘shipped’ when they issued the invoice. ‘Shipped’ indicating the repair job is completed.

*We build large systems, so all my orders, whether they are sales order, service orders or repair orders are entered as a single line item with a quantity of 1. The Project Managers enter the individual components in the Job. So, that explains the “1”.

Can you also fill in the Customer Request Date. I have a hard time knowing what is a Need By Date and what is a Ship By Date as you guys have changed your labels.

Basically the date’s will drive Time Phase and Demand and the Firm drives Suggestions…

If that’s not it, then I am unsure.

OK, really, it’s the shipped quantity. I tested this.

In this pic, I had:

  • Made the order for 1 EA of the part
  • Shipped it from inventory (this closed the order)
  • Reopened the order and line and release

Next I make a job and try to add a demand link but I get the same error you did:

Now, don’t try this, but to prove a point, I change the order qty to 2:

And now I can add the link to Job Entry:

But more to the point, in a separate experiment:

  • I deleted the demand link I just made in the job
  • Set the order qty back to 1
  • Deleted the shipment
  • Added the demand link again and it worked again

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Sure, that makes sense - don’t change it.

That’s okay to a point. But

  1. They are shipping the wrong thing; this is a make-direct job and they are not shipping the job from WIP as they should; instead they are shipping from inventory
  2. Another issue you might see is in timing, where if they do ship the job but they do this before the material is issued or labor charged, you may not get the costs to move to the right accounts (some will go to mfg. variance). Or the costs will move later if you set up the GL controls that way but it’s just not as clean of a transaction. (Alternately there is a company config setting for that, too.)

JasonMcD,
My sticking point now is how to delete the shipment. Because “This Line:” and “Shipped” on the Release tab is grayed out.

Right, you cannot delete it if they have invoiced already. (Assuming the invoice is posted.)

Can you make the job to inventory instead? That would net it all out. It has to be a real part (not on the fly) for that to work.

Yes, we renamed them. Our Promise Date = Customer Request Date or Need By Date, our Expected Ship Date = Recognize Revenue Date.
With that said, I’m looking at the Lines and see Customer Request Date, I entered today’s date.


Then I opened Job Entry and tried to link it to this SO via Make To Order and no luck.