1,176 people on the list - ask away - it's FREE and you don't h

Well AL,

that sounds almost unbelievable, but I think I'll stick with this group. This is the place we can get feedback with no hidden "if"'s and "but"'s not, "sure we can do that just $$$" and all other things a huge corporation does to its customers.
I'm sorry to say, but with the acception of a few people in your organization, everyone shows that kind of attitude and I find it hard to believe that all of a sudden, the OFFICIAL Vantage user group will be anything different.
For the money we pay to just run this program from year to year, I don't think we get enough input and feedback included in the price. This group has been more help to me, that all the calls I placed to Epicor Support, especially, since most of my recent calls have been directed to custom programming, which must get there price list from Mars.

Thomas Wojewoda
IS Manager
Principal Manufacturing Corp.
2800 South 19th Ave
60155 Broadview IL
phone: (708) 865 7500 ext 544
fax: (708) 865 7632
cell: (708) 259 4864
http://www.principalmfg.com

Vantage ver. 6.10.526 05/09/05


-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com [mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ald55432
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:13 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] Re: 1,176 people on the list - ask away - it's FREE and you don't have to buy a plane ticket !

[/Quote]> Years ago I suggested that EPICOR use the list to evaluate
suggested changes > to modules. Subject line: "EPICOR's proposed
changes to XXX module - What > do you think of these ideas?" Sure
would be nice to have 1,179 people > review this stuff BEFORE it
gets written. You would think that EPICOR would ---jump--- at the
chance of having a FREE way to tap into all of us for ideas. Some
companies actually PAY to have focus groups. How about a focus
group with 1,179 members who would LOVE the chance to be involved in
the future of this product!

This list is a possibility for 1,179 people to talk to each other
who will likely never meet in person. Personal opinion - we aren't
even using 1% of the potential for a tool like this. [/Unquote]

I'd like jump in here. My name is Al DeWitt and I am the current
Secretary of the Epicor Users Group (EUG). I, along with Jeff
Glaze, would like to invite you to consider the joining the EUG.
Why join the EUG?

- The EUG is the one user group officially recognized by Epicor.
- EUG members get a discount to Perspectives that (almost) pays
for the cost of the membership if you send one person and you
actually save money if you send two or more.
- Epicor Avanté users have developed a great network of SIGs and
are currently using that to prioritize enhancements to their
product. We would love to help get your SIGs organized and your
voice heard.

If you would like more information feel free to check our our
website: www.epicorusers.org or contact me or the EUG Vantage
Liaison, Jeff Glaze.

Thanks for reading.






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M. Manasa Reddy
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-----Original Message-----
From: vantage@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:vantage@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of todd Anderson
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:17 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vantage] 1,176 people on the list - ask away -
it's FREE and you don't have to buy a plane ticket !


Just checked - 1,176 people on this list from all over the
world.

Folks - ask away - no question too large or too small.
It's ALL free and you
don't have to buy plane tickets! How can this possibly be
a better
deal?????????

If someone wants to start a "Birds of a feather" exchange
on the list - go
for it -

Try subject lines like:

"Birds of a feather: Plastic Molding"
"Birds of a feather: Accountants" - lay out topics of
conversation and see
what you can get going -
"Shop Floor Scheduling Module: The good, the bad, and the
ugly - open
conversation"

Send a msg looking for 5 or 10 people on the list that are
interested in one
particular conversation and offer to set up a conference
call where you can
talk privately. Of course, the rest of us would
appreciate it if you would
post the results of those group conversation on the list!

Seems like we have a ton of people who don't feel
comfortable asking
questions on the list ... especially people who are
non-technical. But if
you want to start a thread about a specific module or
topic you may be able
to get them to join in on a conversation. Like a lot of
things in life - 1
person has to be willing to start the thread ...

You are allowed to have brutally honest discussions about
Vantage modules -
what works, what doesn't, what you would like to see
changed - just try not
to make it personal and try not to bash EPICOR as a
company. Individual
modules on the other hand are fair game - have at it.
Constructively if at
all possible -

Most people seem to think of the list as an "Ask a
question / Get an answer"
format. That's the least of what it could be. Why can't
you set up groups
of people to just discuss issues?

Years ago I suggested that EPICOR use the list to evaluate
suggested changes
to modules. Subject line: "EPICOR's proposed changes to
XXX module - What
do you think of these ideas?" Sure would be nice to have
1,179 people
review this stuff BEFORE it gets written. You would think
that EPICOR would
---jump--- at the chance of having a FREE way to tap into
all of us for
ideas. Some companies actually PAY to have focus groups.
How about a focus
group with 1,179 members who would LOVE the chance to be
involved in the
future of this product!

This list is a possibility for 1,179 people to talk to
each other who will
likely never meet in person. Personal opinion - we aren't
even using 1% of
the potential for a tool like this.

If you want to see waves in a pond, sometimes you have to
be willing to
throw a rock!

Bottom line - stir up the list and see what happens. This
list is NOT just
for tech's! Heck, we even allow woman to join - ( I'll
duck now .... )

Happing hunting

Todd Anderson



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[/Quote]> Years ago I suggested that EPICOR use the list to evaluate
suggested changes > to modules. Subject line: "EPICOR's proposed
changes to XXX module - What > do you think of these ideas?" Sure
would be nice to have 1,179 people > review this stuff BEFORE it
gets written. You would think that EPICOR would ---jump--- at the
chance of having a FREE way to tap into all of us for ideas. Some
companies actually PAY to have focus groups. How about a focus
group with 1,179 members who would LOVE the chance to be involved in
the future of this product!

This list is a possibility for 1,179 people to talk to each other
who will likely never meet in person. Personal opinion - we aren't
even using 1% of the potential for a tool like this. [/Unquote]

I'd like jump in here. My name is Al DeWitt and I am the current
Secretary of the Epicor Users Group (EUG). I, along with Jeff
Glaze, would like to invite you to consider the joining the EUG.
Why join the EUG?

- The EUG is the one user group officially recognized by Epicor.
- EUG members get a discount to Perspectives that (almost) pays
for the cost of the membership if you send one person and you
actually save money if you send two or more.
- Epicor Avanté users have developed a great network of SIGs and
are currently using that to prioritize enhancements to their
product. We would love to help get your SIGs organized and your
voice heard.

If you would like more information feel free to check our our
website: www.epicorusers.org or contact me or the EUG Vantage
Liaison, Jeff Glaze.

Thanks for reading.