Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200

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BTW - Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll try Mo'Slo when I get the codes.
But now I have a lot of options. You guys are good. -Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:08 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Don't any of you remember playing that Qbasic "snake" game? If you punched
the turbo button off, it was MUCH easier! It was the old-fashioned 'cheat
codes' back then. Drop the Mhz from 33 down to 18.

Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Cox
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


At 09:54 AM 3/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Does this mean I have to start buying PC's that have the "Turbo" button
on
>them again? Isn't this what that was for?

Yup. Mostly for games (ahh... CGA graphics!) that ran too fast on
blazing
286-16 boxes and such. Why the dumb things stayed on PC cases till the
mid
1990s is still a mystery to me.

Actually, all the modern processors have ways to slow down or completely
halt them for power management features. Wonder if anyone has utils to
let
you manually do that with the system up and running? I did see a Dell P-3
notebook last year where you could dial down the max speed from 750MHz
downward in 100 or so increments for battery life extension. Dunno if
regular Penti do that, or only the "mobile" series CPUs.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338




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Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz? What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room, the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o' ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD


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3
Just run a Vantage Schema Change on that PC and run the Pascal program while the schema change is running. That oughta slow that 1Ghz down a bit. :-) (Just funnin' and it 's not even Friday yet).

Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz? What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room, the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o' ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD


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Check out e-bay for 333mhz or less laptops.... you can probably get one for
less price than it would be to hire someone to rewrite the pascal code,
though having the code rewritten may be a worthwile investment.

Just a thought, if the pascal program is dos-based, you might want to see if
checking or unchecking the timer emulation option in the advanced properties
for the windows 2000 shortcut helps at all...

Thaddeus

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:20 PM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz? What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room, the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o' ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD


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5
Gary,

you might try running a virtual machine (VMWare) on the new workstation and create a Virtual DOS machine with vmware. Is quite configurable as far as environment and performance. http://www.vmware.com/download/

I use it and love it!

Lee


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Polvinale [mailto:garyp@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:20 PM
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Subject: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz? What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room, the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o' ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD
6
Gary - If you already have the P90 machine with the Pascal program on it and
already have the new 1ghz machine, why not just get a 2 port KVM switch.
Let the machine shop manager do his day-to-day ops on the new machine and
then switch to the old when he needs to handle CNC programs. That's an easy
short term solution anyway. Might be time to consider a more modern NC file
handling software as well. Pascal - yuck, I haven't heard that word since
high school :-)

Rick
7
Gary,

I had a similar problem here when trying to run a DOS program on a new 1.4 GHZ running W2K.
Our vendor suggested we purchase a $23 dollar program called Mo'Slo 4Biz
It takes that new computer of yours and slows it down the processor as much as 99%, you decide how much
"slowing down" the PC needs.

Here is a link
http://www.hpaa.com/moslo





----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz? What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room, the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o' ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD





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8
Pascal yuck? C'mon! Delphi's pretty cool, and that's just Pascal in Window
dressing. Perhaps you could try writing a Delphi component that would call
this program. I've never tried this, but maybe there's a component in one
of Borland's libraries designed to handle just this sort of problem (the
people at Borland are pretty sharp, and maybe they've run into this problem
themselves).

Jon Hellebuyck
Stremel Manufacturing

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Gary - If you already have the P90 machine with the Pascal program on it
and
already have the new 1ghz machine, why not just get a 2 port KVM switch.
Let the machine shop manager do his day-to-day ops on the new machine and
then switch to the old when he needs to handle CNC programs. That's an
easy
short term solution anyway. Might be time to consider a more modern NC
file
handling software as well. Pascal - yuck, I haven't heard that word since
high school :-)

Rick



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I knew that would get a rise out of somebody. I've programmed in basic,
fortran, and pascal. I only said that because I'm mad that VB and C++ came
out after I was done taking computer science classes and I never learned
them.

Rick



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Hellebuyck [mailto:jhellebuyck@...]
>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200
>
>
>Pascal yuck? C'mon!
10
Rick,

Pascal does well with engineering and scientific calculation programs. The
data-collection we do on crash-test dummies is complicated and changes its
spots frequently. Ergo the new window-based software we have been meaning
to write gets shelved every time in favor of adding a new test or new dummy
to the old system to keep up with industry requirements. Our programming
dept can't program it fast enough to get ahead of the game.

You're right though - Yuck! When I first started here, they gave me a whole
week to learn Pascal and start making changes to this software. Since then
they have the guy back who wrote the software, so at least I don't have to
worry about programming it... just making it run, which seems to be a real
son-of-a-gun.

I'm getting some ideas from the group. So maybe I will be able to pull a
rabbit out o' ma hat.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:11 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Gary - If you already have the P90 machine with the Pascal program on it and
already have the new 1ghz machine, why not just get a 2 port KVM switch.
Let the machine shop manager do his day-to-day ops on the new machine and
then switch to the old when he needs to handle CNC programs. That's an easy
short term solution anyway. Might be time to consider a more modern NC file
handling software as well. Pascal - yuck, I haven't heard that word since
high school :-)

Rick




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11
I know. That was mostly tongue-in-cheek. The only reason I own Delphi is
because I bought Borland's standard compiler suite for C++ Builder and
JBuilder and it was included. All kidding aside though, Delphi is pretty
slick. I'm actually mad that I took computer science too late to learn
Pascal.

Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Spriggle [mailto:rspriggle@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


I knew that would get a rise out of somebody. I've programmed in basic,
fortran, and pascal. I only said that because I'm mad that VB and C++
came
out after I was done taking computer science classes and I never learned
them.

Rick



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jon Hellebuyck [mailto:jhellebuyck@...]
>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:15 AM
>To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200
>
>
>Pascal yuck? C'mon!

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12
Thanks Jon for the Delphi idea. But that sounds like work. So I'll put it
on my list - but at the bottom - I haven't used Delphi before.

Rich, I'm dying laughing - Mo'Slo???? If it does that, they sure can have
that $23. I'll check out the web site after finishing all the responses
from the group. Do you think they have a Mo'Slo version for SysAdmins?
Something with a time-warp would be nice - slow down the input coming at us
so we could actually have the time it takes to finish something before the
next 27 A1 red-hot need it yesterday emergencies come at us? Or a remote
control the size of a TV remote to disintegrate people appearing in my
doorway. Or maybe just a product to clone sysadmins. There's a whole
market out there waiting to be tapped.

Thanks guys,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Gary,

I had a similar problem here when trying to run a DOS program on a new 1.4
GHZ running W2K.
Our vendor suggested we purchase a $23 dollar program called Mo'Slo 4Biz
It takes that new computer of yours and slows it down the processor as much
as 99%, you decide how much
"slowing down" the PC needs.

Here is a link
http://www.hpaa.com/moslo





----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: Vantage@Yahoogroups. Com
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Here's a DOS brain-teaser for the group (like we don't get enough
challenges
during the day to keep us awake):

About 6-8 yrs ago, one of our former employees wrote a Pascal program to
catalog and run our CNC Machine programs. Worked great until we came into
the 21st century and I rolled out faster PC's. Pascal exe's have some kind
of timing issue with machines faster than P200. (Faster than 200MHz?
What
for? Never happen.) I need to replace our P-80 that runs the CNC's with
a
1GHz PC. One of our programmers who still programs in Pascal gave me a
patch he pulled off the web someplace. The patch changes the Pascal exe
code
to allow it to run on faster PC's (subject to the kind of timing loops
that
are in the code). I ran the patch, and got the exe program to run on a
P333
Celeron, but it still won't run on 1G PC with W2K. So here's my dilemma.

I need to put the new workstation out for the lead guy in charge of the
CNC's, and it has to be pretty fast so he can access 2-D CAD programs and
other more-demanding programs. But he still needs to be able to run the
Pascal exe program, which only runs on a slow PC. I don't have the room,
the
inclination, or the extra machines to put 2 PC's out there. But unless I
can
figure out how to make the Pascal program work on the faster PC, I'll have
to do that.

Did I mention, we don't have the source code for the Pascal program? If I
did, our Pascal programmer could probably fix the timing loops to work, at
least in tandem with the patch, on the 1GHz PC.

Any bright ideas? I have brought most workstations up to speed since I've
been the admin here (1.5 yr). But the previous philosophy was to run junk
software on POS computers without backups until they drop, and hope you
can
find the programs you need to keep going at that point somewhere on
somebody's workstation. I'm getting pretty good at pulling rabbits out o'
ma
hat, Rocky... but it looks like I might have pulled out an alligator this
time. Any help will be deeply appreciated.

Gary Polvinale
Denton ATD





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Gary,

I had a "you've got to be kidding" moment when the software vendor said I needed a $23 dollar program to slow down their $15,000 program. It took 3 phone calls before we got the "Oh!, your computer is too fast" answer. It was suddenly time for a mental health moment.
The surprising part is that the dumb thing actually works!
You too, can slow your brand new PC down to the speed of a 7 year old piece of junk.
I am very interested in the "Time Warp Upgrade"

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Thanks Jon for the Delphi idea. But that sounds like work. So I'll put it
on my list - but at the bottom - I haven't used Delphi before.

Rich, I'm dying laughing - Mo'Slo???? If it does that, they sure can have
that $23. I'll check out the web site after finishing all the responses
from the group. Do you think they have a Mo'Slo version for SysAdmins?
Something with a time-warp would be nice - slow down the input coming at us
so we could actually have the time it takes to finish something before the
next 27 A1 red-hot need it yesterday emergencies come at us? Or a remote
control the size of a TV remote to disintegrate people appearing in my
doorway. Or maybe just a product to clone sysadmins. There's a whole
market out there waiting to be tapped.

Thanks guys,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200





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Does this mean I have to start buying PC's that have the "Turbo" button on
them again? Isn't this what that was for?

Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Gary,

I had a "you've got to be kidding" moment when the software vendor said I
needed a $23 dollar program to slow down their $15,000 program. It took 3
phone calls before we got the "Oh!, your computer is too fast" answer. It
was suddenly time for a mental health moment.
The surprising part is that the dumb thing actually works!
You too, can slow your brand new PC down to the speed of a 7 year old
piece of junk.
I am very interested in the "Time Warp Upgrade"

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Thanks Jon for the Delphi idea. But that sounds like work. So I'll put
it
on my list - but at the bottom - I haven't used Delphi before.

Rich, I'm dying laughing - Mo'Slo???? If it does that, they sure can
have
that $23. I'll check out the web site after finishing all the responses
from the group. Do you think they have a Mo'Slo version for SysAdmins?
Something with a time-warp would be nice - slow down the input coming at
us
so we could actually have the time it takes to finish something before
the
next 27 A1 red-hot need it yesterday emergencies come at us? Or a
remote
control the size of a TV remote to disintegrate people appearing in my
doorway. Or maybe just a product to clone sysadmins. There's a whole
market out there waiting to be tapped.

Thanks guys,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:01 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200





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Hey Rich,

I bought it. 23 bucks. From Dr. David's Super Crispy Software - the best
company name I ever ran across. If it does .1 of what it says it will, it
was worth the time spent.

I think a whole line of Mo' Products would be nice. Mo'Fast - for employees
who have already used Mo'Slo on themselves. Mo'Betta - to improve quality
control. Mo'Less - So there will always be a good answer for stupid
questions. And Mo'HoHo - to improve morale. Of course there'd NoMo' - run
this one before you leave on Fri's. Can you tell it's been a rough week
around here?

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:37 AM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Gary,

I had a "you've got to be kidding" moment when the software vendor said I
needed a $23 dollar program to slow down their $15,000 program. It took 3
phone calls before we got the "Oh!, your computer is too fast" answer. It
was suddenly time for a mental health moment.
The surprising part is that the dumb thing actually works!
You too, can slow your brand new PC down to the speed of a 7 year old piece
of junk.
I am very interested in the "Time Warp Upgrade"

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Polvinale
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


Thanks Jon for the Delphi idea. But that sounds like work. So I'll put
it
on my list - but at the bottom - I haven't used Delphi before.

Rich, I'm dying laughing - Mo'Slo???? If it does that, they sure can
have
that $23. I'll check out the web site after finishing all the responses
from the group. Do you think they have a Mo'Slo version for SysAdmins?
Something with a time-warp would be nice - slow down the input coming at
us
so we could actually have the time it takes to finish something before the
next 27 A1 red-hot need it yesterday emergencies come at us? Or a remote
control the size of a TV remote to disintegrate people appearing in my
doorway. Or maybe just a product to clone sysadmins. There's a whole
market out there waiting to be tapped.

Thanks guys,
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shafer [mailto:rshafer@...]
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200





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At 09:54 AM 3/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Does this mean I have to start buying PC's that have the "Turbo" button on
>them again? Isn't this what that was for?

Yup. Mostly for games (ahh... CGA graphics!) that ran too fast on blazing
286-16 boxes and such. Why the dumb things stayed on PC cases till the mid
1990s is still a mystery to me.

Actually, all the modern processors have ways to slow down or completely
halt them for power management features. Wonder if anyone has utils to let
you manually do that with the system up and running? I did see a Dell P-3
notebook last year where you could dial down the max speed from 750MHz
downward in 100 or so increments for battery life extension. Dunno if
regular Penti do that, or only the "mobile" series CPUs.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338
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Don't any of you remember playing that Qbasic "snake" game? If you punched the turbo button off, it was MUCH easier! It was the old-fashioned 'cheat codes' back then. Drop the Mhz from 33 down to 18.

Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Cox
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Pascal Program Running Faster Than P200


At 09:54 AM 3/15/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Does this mean I have to start buying PC's that have the "Turbo" button on
>them again? Isn't this what that was for?

Yup. Mostly for games (ahh... CGA graphics!) that ran too fast on blazing
286-16 boxes and such. Why the dumb things stayed on PC cases till the mid
1990s is still a mystery to me.

Actually, all the modern processors have ways to slow down or completely
halt them for power management features. Wonder if anyone has utils to let
you manually do that with the system up and running? I did see a Dell P-3
notebook last year where you could dial down the max speed from 750MHz
downward in 100 or so increments for battery life extension. Dunno if
regular Penti do that, or only the "mobile" series CPUs.

-Wayne Cox
Twenty Three -- Information Technology Consulting
828-685-2338




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