[off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on net work

system · April 18, 2001, 1:27pm

Matt,

Although I'm a big fan of 802.11, there are some security
issues that you need to be aware of.

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2704419,00.html

have fun,
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Worzala
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:04 AM
> To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for
> 9 PC's on net work .

system · April 17, 2001, 10:09am

Troy,

What you are looking for is a Standalone Media Converter. I'd suggest
calling Black Box and seeing what they have to offer - 877-877-2269.

You would end up with -- Hub/Switch ---> drop cable --> media converter -->
fiber --> media converter --> drop cable --> Hub/Switch.

Part # LE1505A - UTP to MultiMode - $ 199.00 each - you would need a pair -
converts fiber to twisted pair .... MAY work for you. At least it's a
start.

Do you need 10 or 100 mbps speed ?
Do you need an uplink media converter or can your hubs handle it themselves
?

Call Blackbox or your favorite geek shop and see what they've got. I'm
guessing the converters will run you between $ 400 - $800 for the pair.

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
network .

I'd love to find how to do fiber for a few hundred. Most fiber options I've
looked into require at least $1000 for the hubs on either end of the fiber,
plus a technician to hook it all up.

Anyone have cheaper sources? If we could, I'm sure we would use it far
beyond 6 months.

Troy

----- Original Message -----
From: Darren Lucht
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on network
.

It would be cheaper and less problems with fiber. Only a few hundred
bucks, and works well.

-Darren Lucht MCSE,CSN
-Paper, Calmenson & Co.
-darrenlucht@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:50 AM
> To: vantage@y...
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
> network .
>
>
> > Is anyone using Cat5 Network Extenders to get up to 600ft? Specs
say it
> is 1.5 MB, but seems much less expensive than fiber - especially
for a
> temporary situation.
>
> Troy

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system · April 17, 2001, 10:27am

Troy,

You can buy a Linksys EF2S24 24 port EtherFast II 10/100 24 port switch for
$390 from CDW and the EF2SST 100BASE-FX Switch Module for this is $115. You
would need one of each at each end. That would get the hardware done for
just over $1000. You should be able to get 2 strand fiber for around $2 to
$3 per foot. You can get a 6 stand from Black Box for outside installation
for $2 per foot, but you have to buy 1000 feet minimum from them. You
should be able to get shorter lengths from Anixter of someone like that. I
am running one the the Linksys switches now and can't tell the difference
between it and the 3COM switches I have that cost $1,264 for the switch and
$697 for the fiber module.

Dave Cole
Reeder & Kline

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
network .

I'd love to find how to do fiber for a few hundred. Most fiber options I've
looked into require at least $1000 for the hubs on either end of the fiber,
plus a technician to hook it all up.

Anyone have cheaper sources? If we could, I'm sure we would use it far
beyond 6 months.

Troy

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system · April 17, 2001, 8:34pm

When I called Black box the other day they the equipment they quoted was more like $500 per side, plus custom length cable, plus installation. The lady estimated like $2,000. What you are saying would be much more reasonable.

Initially we would just be running Data Collection PC's and one or two manager's PC's, so speed wouldn't have to be incredible.

It's looking like a wireless option might be a similar price to the above quote and save from having to run the cable overhead or underground.

A final (cheaper) option is running Coax cable with two cheap boxes ($30 each). I understand lightning could pose a problem there.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

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From: Todd Anderson
To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on net work .

Troy,

What you are looking for is a Standalone Media Converter. I'd suggest
calling Black Box and seeing what they have to offer - 877-877-2269.

You would end up with -- Hub/Switch ---> drop cable --> media converter -->
fiber --> media converter --> drop cable --> Hub/Switch.

Part # LE1505A - UTP to MultiMode - $ 199.00 each - you would need a pair -
converts fiber to twisted pair .... MAY work for you. At least it's a
start.

Do you need 10 or 100 mbps speed ?
Do you need an uplink media converter or can your hubs handle it themselves
?

Call Blackbox or your favorite geek shop and see what they've got. I'm
guessing the converters will run you between $ 400 - $800 for the pair.

Todd Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:49 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
network .

I'd love to find how to do fiber for a few hundred. Most fiber options I've
looked into require at least $1000 for the hubs on either end of the fiber,
plus a technician to hook it all up.

Anyone have cheaper sources? If we could, I'm sure we would use it far
beyond 6 months.

Troy

----- Original Message -----
From: Darren Lucht
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:26 PM
Subject: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on network
.

It would be cheaper and less problems with fiber. Only a few hundred
bucks, and works well.

-Darren Lucht MCSE,CSN
-Paper, Calmenson & Co.
-darrenlucht@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:50 AM
> To: vantage@y...
> Subject: Re: [Vantage] [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
> network .
>
>
> > Is anyone using Cat5 Network Extenders to get up to 600ft? Specs
say it
> is 1.5 MB, but seems much less expensive than fiber - especially
for a
> temporary situation.
>
> Troy

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system · April 18, 2001, 11:03am

Troy,
ï¿½
I, too, am looking at wireless.ï¿½It looks like the latest generation 802.11b is MORE than adequate for the task. All the reports I have read indicate that wireless is mature and reliable. You get 11Mbpsï¿½and you don't have to deal with the hassles of running cables. I believe that you can also reconfigure the bridge as an access point later onï¿½by changing antennas, so the investment is not totally wasted if you have any use for wireless LAN access in the future. The Cisco Aironet wireless bridge kit that I am looking at has two transceivers with 2 all weather antennas and 2 50' lengths of Coax to connect the antennas to the transceivers for $3200 (CDW price). Cisco partï¿½#AIR-SK342BB.
ï¿½
Matt
ï¿½
ï¿½-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:35 PM
To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on net work .

When I called Black box the other day they the equipment they quoted was more like $500 per side, plus custom length cable, plus installation. The lady estimated like $2,000.ï¿½ What you are saying would be much more reasonable.

Initially we would just be running Data Collection PC's and one or two manager's PC's, so speed wouldn't have to be incredible.

It's looking like a wireless option might be a similar price to the above quote and save from having to run the cable overhead or underground.

A final (cheaper) option is running Coax cable with two cheap boxes ($30 each).ï¿½ I understand lightning could pose a problem there.

Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics
Troy Funte
Liberty Electronics

ï¿½ ----- Original Message -----
ï¿½ From: Todd Anderson
ï¿½ To: 'vantage@yahoogroups.com'
ï¿½ Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:04 AM
ï¿½ Subject: RE: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on net work .

ï¿½ Troy,

ï¿½ What you are looking for is a Standalone Media Converter.ï¿½ I'd suggest
ï¿½ calling Black Box and seeing what they have to offer - 877-877-2269.ï¿½ï¿½

ï¿½ You would end up with -- Hub/Switch ---> drop cable --> media converter -->
ï¿½ fiber --> media converter --> drop cable --> Hub/Switch.

ï¿½ Part # LE1505A - UTP to MultiMode - $ 199.00 each - you would need a pair -
ï¿½ converts fiber to twisted pair .... MAY work for you.ï¿½ At least it's a
ï¿½ start.ï¿½

ï¿½ Do you need 10 or 100 mbps speed ?
ï¿½ Do you need an uplink media converter or can your hubs handle it themselves
ï¿½ ?

ï¿½ Call Blackbox or your favorite geek shop and see what they've got.ï¿½ I'm
ï¿½ guessing the converters will run you between $ 400 - $800 for the pair.

ï¿½ Todd Anderson

ï¿½ -----Original Message-----
ï¿½ From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@...]
ï¿½ Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:49 PM
ï¿½ To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
ï¿½ Subject: Re: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
ï¿½ network .

ï¿½ I'd love to find how to do fiber for a few hundred. Most fiber options I've
ï¿½ looked into require at least $1000 for the hubs on either end of the fiber,
ï¿½ plus a technician to hook it all up.

ï¿½ Anyone have cheaper sources?ï¿½ If we could, I'm sure we would use it far
ï¿½ beyond 6 months.

ï¿½ Troy

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ ----- Original Message -----
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ From: Darren Lucht
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ To: vantage@yahoogroups.com
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:26 PM
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Subject: [Vantage] Re: [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on network
ï¿½ .

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ It would be cheaper and less problems with fiber.ï¿½ Only a few hundred
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ bucks, and works well.

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ -Darren Lucht MCSE,CSN
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ -Paper, Calmenson & Co.
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ -darrenlucht@...

ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > -----Original Message-----
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > From: Troy Funte [mailto:tfunte@e...]
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 8:50 AM
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > To: vantage@y...
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > Subject: Re: [Vantage] [off topic] 600 foot distance for 9 PC's on
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > network .
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ >
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ >
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > > Is anyone using Cat5 Network Extenders to get up to 600ft?ï¿½ Specs
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ say it
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > is 1.5 MB, but seems much less expensive than fiber - especially
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ for a
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > temporary situation.
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ >
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ > Troy

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